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  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

    A selected set of programmers always exist who are always inclined to enrage us. A friend of mine, who is working in Bangalore in a small company wanted a third party review of a bit of code. I helped him out during the previous weekend. A very interesting observation. A developer had accessed a particular DB item from Cache. When we asked him what happens if the Cache gets NULL, he was telling the following points: 1) The cache never gets NULL. 2) When the cache item *misses out*, we have to restart the IIS or Windows so that on next attempt, cache would be replenished. A simple automatic NULL check, cache replenish and DB call was at all required. I don't know what caused him to spin this story. I guesses are: 1) He was trying to 'cover' his blunder. 2) He was sincerely ignorant over the Web fundamentals. 3) He was of the opinion that We, the Web server administrators and program managers are just dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7. Any other speculations?

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    Mike Dimmick
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    Nah, all you have to do is recycle the application worker process more frequently than the cache expiry time ;P Assuming ASP.NET of course.

    Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

      A selected set of programmers always exist who are always inclined to enrage us. A friend of mine, who is working in Bangalore in a small company wanted a third party review of a bit of code. I helped him out during the previous weekend. A very interesting observation. A developer had accessed a particular DB item from Cache. When we asked him what happens if the Cache gets NULL, he was telling the following points: 1) The cache never gets NULL. 2) When the cache item *misses out*, we have to restart the IIS or Windows so that on next attempt, cache would be replenished. A simple automatic NULL check, cache replenish and DB call was at all required. I don't know what caused him to spin this story. I guesses are: 1) He was trying to 'cover' his blunder. 2) He was sincerely ignorant over the Web fundamentals. 3) He was of the opinion that We, the Web server administrators and program managers are just dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7. Any other speculations?

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      Dan Neely
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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

      dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs

      Said idiot needs to look in a mirror.

      -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

        A selected set of programmers always exist who are always inclined to enrage us. A friend of mine, who is working in Bangalore in a small company wanted a third party review of a bit of code. I helped him out during the previous weekend. A very interesting observation. A developer had accessed a particular DB item from Cache. When we asked him what happens if the Cache gets NULL, he was telling the following points: 1) The cache never gets NULL. 2) When the cache item *misses out*, we have to restart the IIS or Windows so that on next attempt, cache would be replenished. A simple automatic NULL check, cache replenish and DB call was at all required. I don't know what caused him to spin this story. I guesses are: 1) He was trying to 'cover' his blunder. 2) He was sincerely ignorant over the Web fundamentals. 3) He was of the opinion that We, the Web server administrators and program managers are just dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7. Any other speculations?

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        jcdevnet
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        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

        He was of the opinion that Web server administrators are dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7.

        Don't you mean 24x365 ????? 365 days X 24 hours instead of 365 days x 24 hours x 7 days

        Greets! Joel

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          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

          He was of the opinion that Web server administrators are dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7.

          Don't you mean 24x365 ????? 365 days X 24 hours instead of 365 days x 24 hours x 7 days

          Greets! Joel

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          PhilDanger
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          They are glued to their chairs for periods of seven years at a time -- after which they are allowed to visit the soda machine for one hour.

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          • P PhilDanger

            They are glued to their chairs for periods of seven years at a time -- after which they are allowed to visit the soda machine for one hour.

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            Even worst for them jejejejeje ... I wonder how often can they go to the restroom

            Greets! Joel

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            • P PhilDanger

              They are glued to their chairs for periods of seven years at a time -- after which they are allowed to visit the soda machine for one hour.

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              MidwestLimey
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              That's what it says in the contract, but they do get free soda and diapers :-D


              I'm largely language agnostic


              After a while they all bug me :doh:


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              • M Mike Dimmick

                Nah, all you have to do is recycle the application worker process more frequently than the cache expiry time ;P Assuming ASP.NET of course.

                Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                WillemM
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                And have a whole football park full of servers to keep the website running... I bet Bill has some cash lying around somewhere.

                WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog

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                • M MidwestLimey

                  That's what it says in the contract, but they do get free soda and diapers :-D


                  I'm largely language agnostic


                  After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                  WillemM
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                  Still, I'm not signing for that job ;P

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                  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                    A selected set of programmers always exist who are always inclined to enrage us. A friend of mine, who is working in Bangalore in a small company wanted a third party review of a bit of code. I helped him out during the previous weekend. A very interesting observation. A developer had accessed a particular DB item from Cache. When we asked him what happens if the Cache gets NULL, he was telling the following points: 1) The cache never gets NULL. 2) When the cache item *misses out*, we have to restart the IIS or Windows so that on next attempt, cache would be replenished. A simple automatic NULL check, cache replenish and DB call was at all required. I don't know what caused him to spin this story. I guesses are: 1) He was trying to 'cover' his blunder. 2) He was sincerely ignorant over the Web fundamentals. 3) He was of the opinion that We, the Web server administrators and program managers are just dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7. Any other speculations?

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                    A very interesting observation. A developer had accessed a particular DB item from Cache. When we asked him what happens if the Cache gets NULL, he was telling the following points: 1) The cache never gets NULL.

                    This is precisely where you smack him upside the head with a baseball bat and ask him to repeat what happens when the Cache is empty. Repeat this process until he figures it out.

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                      dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs

                      Said idiot needs to look in a mirror.

                      -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      dan neely wrote:

                      Said idiot needs to look in a mirror.

                      :confused:

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                        Even worst for them jejejejeje ... I wonder how often can they go to the restroom

                        Greets! Joel

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                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                        jcdevnet wrote:

                        how often can they go to the restr

                        That's terrible right? You need so much of room fresheners to keep off the odour! :-D

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                        • M MidwestLimey

                          That's what it says in the contract, but they do get free soda and diapers :-D


                          I'm largely language agnostic


                          After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                          MidwestLimey wrote:

                          free soda and diapers

                          :-D

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                          • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                            A selected set of programmers always exist who are always inclined to enrage us. A friend of mine, who is working in Bangalore in a small company wanted a third party review of a bit of code. I helped him out during the previous weekend. A very interesting observation. A developer had accessed a particular DB item from Cache. When we asked him what happens if the Cache gets NULL, he was telling the following points: 1) The cache never gets NULL. 2) When the cache item *misses out*, we have to restart the IIS or Windows so that on next attempt, cache would be replenished. A simple automatic NULL check, cache replenish and DB call was at all required. I don't know what caused him to spin this story. I guesses are: 1) He was trying to 'cover' his blunder. 2) He was sincerely ignorant over the Web fundamentals. 3) He was of the opinion that We, the Web server administrators and program managers are just dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7. Any other speculations?

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            He probably asked on CP and was given a link to a thread saying something like, "always hit the cache!"

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                              He probably asked on CP and was given a link to a thread saying something like, "always hit the cache!"

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                              Dave Kreskowiak
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                              Nah, probably more like an MSDN article! :-D

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                                Still, I'm not signing for that job ;P

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                                Paul Conrad
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                                No kidding. I bet it starts to smell after a short while...

                                "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  Nah, probably more like an MSDN article! :-D

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                                  Paul Conrad
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                                  :rolleyes:

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                                  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    Said idiot needs to look in a mirror.

                                    :confused:

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                                    The guy who thinks that "Web server administrators and program managers are just dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7." is a dumb cabbage...

                                    -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                      The guy who thinks that "Web server administrators and program managers are just dumb cabbages who have nothing to do but just have thier asses glued to the chairs near the server monitor 365x24x7." is a dumb cabbage...

                                      -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                      Unfortunately, in this part of the world (Chennai, India) people have that base opinion. I admit and fully support you in branding them as dumb cabbages or also as smart-ass***es. They fail to understand that our work is more critical in providing a more resilent image to the customer. A website is a 24x7 office for an enterprise. Even a little downtime costs the enterprise badly. But how do you make the swine to understand the greatness of pearl. It is a futile exercise right? :)

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                                      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                        Unfortunately, in this part of the world (Chennai, India) people have that base opinion. I admit and fully support you in branding them as dumb cabbages or also as smart-ass***es. They fail to understand that our work is more critical in providing a more resilent image to the customer. A website is a 24x7 office for an enterprise. Even a little downtime costs the enterprise badly. But how do you make the swine to understand the greatness of pearl. It is a futile exercise right? :)

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                        But how do you make the swine to understand the greatness of pearl. It is a futile exercise right?

                                        Probably. I'd recoment the usage of large blunt objects. It won't be any more effective than other approaches, but will at least give you higher job statisfaction. :laugh:

                                        -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                        • P PhilDanger

                                          They are glued to their chairs for periods of seven years at a time -- after which they are allowed to visit the soda machine for one hour.

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                                          Sathesh Sakthivel
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                                          well said PhilDanger

                                          Regards, Satips.:rose: Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Walk beside me, and just be my friend. - Albert Camus

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