DSL internet - 2 pc's - one ethernet port router [modified]
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Is there a way that I can have internet on both pc's? I read something about using a "crossover cable":confused: and an extra ethernet adapter in the original pc, but it seems to easy:~ . If this process is right, is there software needed, new drivers or a different "special" ethernet adapter? Thanks PS- If it makes any difference, I am using a seimens speedstream 4200 router.
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
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Is there a way that I can have internet on both pc's? I read something about using a "crossover cable":confused: and an extra ethernet adapter in the original pc, but it seems to easy:~ . If this process is right, is there software needed, new drivers or a different "special" ethernet adapter? Thanks PS- If it makes any difference, I am using a seimens speedstream 4200 router.
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
Thisita wrote:
I am using a seimens speedstream 4200 router.
That's not a router. It's a DSL modem. The two are very different. You CAN do it using a couple of ethernet cards in one machine and Internet Connection Sharing, but that sucks. You'd be better off getting an actual router and connecting both machines and the modem to the router.
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Is there a way that I can have internet on both pc's? I read something about using a "crossover cable":confused: and an extra ethernet adapter in the original pc, but it seems to easy:~ . If this process is right, is there software needed, new drivers or a different "special" ethernet adapter? Thanks PS- If it makes any difference, I am using a seimens speedstream 4200 router.
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
Buy a cheap 10/100 switch (less than $20?).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Is there a way that I can have internet on both pc's? I read something about using a "crossover cable":confused: and an extra ethernet adapter in the original pc, but it seems to easy:~ . If this process is right, is there software needed, new drivers or a different "special" ethernet adapter? Thanks PS- If it makes any difference, I am using a seimens speedstream 4200 router.
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
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Thanks guys, i guess i might as well go wireless, too. *Pulls out extra $50 for wireless router*
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
Avoid wireless if you can. It's impossible to secure it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Avoid wireless if you can. It's impossible to secure it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Avoid wireless if you can. It's impossible to secure it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It's impossible to secure it.
'Splain please.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It's impossible to secure it.
'Splain please.
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Restricting by MAC doesn't work as the MAC can easily be spoofed. WEP can be cracked in seconds depending on the amount of traffic ... I'm not joking either, alot of work has been done on refining the tools for breaking into WEP :wtf: WPA is a bit more secure if IIRC but it's still pretty vunerable, but thats not saying much and I think it can be done in minutes. Do a search on WEP and WPA cracking.
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Restricting by MAC doesn't work as the MAC can easily be spoofed. WEP can be cracked in seconds depending on the amount of traffic ... I'm not joking either, alot of work has been done on refining the tools for breaking into WEP :wtf: WPA is a bit more secure if IIRC but it's still pretty vunerable, but thats not saying much and I think it can be done in minutes. Do a search on WEP and WPA cracking.
originSH wrote:
Restricting by MAC doesn't work as the MAC can easily be spoofed.
Correct
originSH wrote:
WEP can be cracked in seconds depending on the amount of traffic
Maybe not seconds, but yes WEP is easily crackable. Some "progress" was made in this area recently that greatly reduces the time needed to get a WEP password.
originSH wrote:
WPA is a bit more secure if IIRC but it's still pretty vunerable
Wrong. Listen to the Security Now[^] podcast, they have covered this topic.
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originSH wrote:
Restricting by MAC doesn't work as the MAC can easily be spoofed.
Correct
originSH wrote:
WEP can be cracked in seconds depending on the amount of traffic
Maybe not seconds, but yes WEP is easily crackable. Some "progress" was made in this area recently that greatly reduces the time needed to get a WEP password.
originSH wrote:
WPA is a bit more secure if IIRC but it's still pretty vunerable
Wrong. Listen to the Security Now[^] podcast, they have covered this topic.
--Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ
Michael Dunn wrote:
originSH wrote: WEP can be cracked in seconds depending on the amount of traffic Maybe not seconds, but yes WEP is easily crackable. Some "progress" was made in this area recently that greatly reduces the time needed to get a WEP password.
A month or two back someone demonstrated a WEP crack that was able to bust most keys in a few seconds. It was fast enough to render the enterprisy rapid key rotation systems some companies were using instead of upgrading to WPA capable hardware ineffective.
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originSH wrote:
Restricting by MAC doesn't work as the MAC can easily be spoofed.
Correct
originSH wrote:
WEP can be cracked in seconds depending on the amount of traffic
Maybe not seconds, but yes WEP is easily crackable. Some "progress" was made in this area recently that greatly reduces the time needed to get a WEP password.
originSH wrote:
WPA is a bit more secure if IIRC but it's still pretty vunerable
Wrong. Listen to the Security Now[^] podcast, they have covered this topic.
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Michael Dunn wrote:
Wrong.
I agree. I just went from WEP to WPA, and still do mac address filtering on top of that. Just my couple cents :)
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Is there a way that I can have internet on both pc's? I read something about using a "crossover cable":confused: and an extra ethernet adapter in the original pc, but it seems to easy:~ . If this process is right, is there software needed, new drivers or a different "special" ethernet adapter? Thanks PS- If it makes any difference, I am using a seimens speedstream 4200 router.
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
- Thanks guys about the crack info, but I live in a town where the only other person who has wireless is the high school's:laugh: mobile computer lab. - And even If, I keep a good eye on what is able to get past my 7:cool: firewalls and symantec.
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
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- Thanks guys about the crack info, but I live in a town where the only other person who has wireless is the high school's:laugh: mobile computer lab. - And even If, I keep a good eye on what is able to get past my 7:cool: firewalls and symantec.
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
Thisita wrote:
7 firewalls and symantec.
Symantec? Oh, you ARE screwed now! That thing couldn't stop the ages old Ping of Death. Google it if you don't know what that means. Think of it this way. Are you absolutely sure you want to take the chance that some War Driver to pull up outside and use YOUR soon-to-be unprotected wireless to do "business" with their kiddie-porn buddies with YOUR IP address? Just a thought.
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Thisita wrote:
7 firewalls and symantec.
Symantec? Oh, you ARE screwed now! That thing couldn't stop the ages old Ping of Death. Google it if you don't know what that means. Think of it this way. Are you absolutely sure you want to take the chance that some War Driver to pull up outside and use YOUR soon-to-be unprotected wireless to do "business" with their kiddie-porn buddies with YOUR IP address? Just a thought.
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2006, 2007Please note that i live next to a decorated police officer and I myself own a full shirisaya sword set, a kasarigama(look it up), and 10 shyrukens. ~~I do believe these tend to ward off evil doers;P And besides, there is no way that an 100 meter wireless router can transmit that far inside of a desk drawer in the middle of 2500 square feet. I live in the middle of nowhere and live withen 5 miles of cow pastures and tobacco feilds. If this isn't enough to instead buy a 50 ft ethernet cord please let me know -- modified at 13:07 Tuesday 17th July, 2007 PS: And the nearest WalMart is 25 miles!:doh:
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
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Please note that i live next to a decorated police officer and I myself own a full shirisaya sword set, a kasarigama(look it up), and 10 shyrukens. ~~I do believe these tend to ward off evil doers;P And besides, there is no way that an 100 meter wireless router can transmit that far inside of a desk drawer in the middle of 2500 square feet. I live in the middle of nowhere and live withen 5 miles of cow pastures and tobacco feilds. If this isn't enough to instead buy a 50 ft ethernet cord please let me know -- modified at 13:07 Tuesday 17th July, 2007 PS: And the nearest WalMart is 25 miles!:doh:
"Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
Thisita wrote:
Please note that i live next to a decorated police officer and I myself own a full shirisaya sword set, a kasarigama(look it up), and 10 shyrukens. ~~I do believe these tend to ward off evil doers
That's nowhere near as effective as a few feet of aluminum foil wrapped around the router antennas. ;P
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Thisita wrote:
Please note that i live next to a decorated police officer and I myself own a full shirisaya sword set, a kasarigama(look it up), and 10 shyrukens. ~~I do believe these tend to ward off evil doers
That's nowhere near as effective as a few feet of aluminum foil wrapped around the router antennas. ;P
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Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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