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    :zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz: Repost Red, repost. Perhaps not the detail, but your tedious unending sentiment is.

    Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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    fat_boy wrote:

    Repost Red, repost. Perhaps not the detail, but your tedious unending sentiment is.

    Global Warming is a scam!

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      link[^]

      President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that foreigners who publicly criticize him or
      his government while visiting Venezuela will be expelled from the country.

      Chavez ordered officials to closely monitor statements made by international figures
      during their visits to Venezuela — and deport any outspoken critics.

      "How long are we going to allow a person — from any country in the world — to come to
      our own house to say there's a dictatorship here, that the president is a tyrant, and
      nobody does anything about it?" Chavez asked during his weekly television and radio
      program.

      Yeah...Deporting critics is hardly tyrannical at all!

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      Red Stateler wrote:

      "How long are we going to allow a person — from any country in the world — to come toour own house to say there's a dictatorship here, that the president is a tyrant, andnobody does anything about it?" Chavez asked

      :laugh: So he decided proving them 100% correct was much better than letting them speak and hoping enough people would doubt them.

      BW


      Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
      Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
      -- Neil Peart

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        President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that foreigners who publicly criticize him or
        his government while visiting Venezuela will be expelled from the country.

        Chavez ordered officials to closely monitor statements made by international figures
        during their visits to Venezuela — and deport any outspoken critics.

        "How long are we going to allow a person — from any country in the world — to come to
        our own house to say there's a dictatorship here, that the president is a tyrant, and
        nobody does anything about it?" Chavez asked during his weekly television and radio
        program.

        Yeah...Deporting critics is hardly tyrannical at all!

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        I can't imagine why he's so paranoid[^]

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          I can't imagine why he's so paranoid[^]

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          Maybe all of you America hating, traitor, commie wannabees will get lucky and Chavez will save you from the evil Bush.

          Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority.

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            I can't imagine why he's so paranoid[^]

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            IamChrisMcCall wrote:

            I can't imagine why he's so paranoid[^]

            Hmmmmm...So it's America's fault that Venezuela has a communist dictator who will deport any Frenchmen who point out his pot marks? The self-loathsomeness of liberalism apparently has no bounds.

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              Maybe all of you America hating, traitor, commie wannabees will get lucky and Chavez will save you from the evil Bush.

              Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority.

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              I love America. I'd call someone who shits all over the Bill of Rights a traitor before someone exercising their right to dissent. Dissent is what makes a true American. Falling in line, keeping your head down, and being a good little consumer might work for you and your friends in the cul-de-sac, but it's what's allowed this country to fall so far. Thanks a lot for nothing, just keep your head down, real Americans will get us out of this mess without help from the loyalist fringe.

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                IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                I can't imagine why he's so paranoid[^]

                Hmmmmm...So it's America's fault that Venezuela has a communist dictator who will deport any Frenchmen who point out his pot marks? The self-loathsomeness of liberalism apparently has no bounds.

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                Humility and liberalism are both halmarks of Catholic thinking. Of course, you're so out-of-step with Rome you probably forgot. When Bush walks on civil liberties, it's patriotic. Even when he does it in someone else's country!

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                  link[^]

                  President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that foreigners who publicly criticize him or
                  his government while visiting Venezuela will be expelled from the country.

                  Chavez ordered officials to closely monitor statements made by international figures
                  during their visits to Venezuela — and deport any outspoken critics.

                  "How long are we going to allow a person — from any country in the world — to come to
                  our own house to say there's a dictatorship here, that the president is a tyrant, and
                  nobody does anything about it?" Chavez asked during his weekly television and radio
                  program.

                  Yeah...Deporting critics is hardly tyrannical at all!

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                  Fox News :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                    I love America. I'd call someone who shits all over the Bill of Rights a traitor before someone exercising their right to dissent. Dissent is what makes a true American. Falling in line, keeping your head down, and being a good little consumer might work for you and your friends in the cul-de-sac, but it's what's allowed this country to fall so far. Thanks a lot for nothing, just keep your head down, real Americans will get us out of this mess without help from the loyalist fringe.

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                    Red Stateler
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                    IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                    Dissent is what makes a true American.

                    So then neo-Nazis, who clearly dissent against the US government, are exceptional Americans? "Dissent" does not make a true American (all Americans dissent against aspects of American government). However, its content and extremity can certainly make someone a traitor.

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                      Humility and liberalism are both halmarks of Catholic thinking. Of course, you're so out-of-step with Rome you probably forgot. When Bush walks on civil liberties, it's patriotic. Even when he does it in someone else's country!

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                      IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                      Humility and liberalism are both halmarks of Catholic thinking. Of course, you're so out-of-step with Rome you probably forgot.

                      Liberalism advocates Godless government in lieu of Catholicism (or any other religion). Pope John Paul, before he died, expressed concern that the EU's increasingly liberal government would soon legislate the Vatican out of existence. I hardly think think John Paul considered that to be a "hallmark of Catholic thinking".

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                      When Bush walks on civil liberties, it's patriotic. Even when he does it in someone else's country!

                      What are "civil liberties" to you? Anything that offends the liberal ethic? If so, I certainly hope he takes the time to take a dump while he tramples on them.

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                        Fox News :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                        Sorry. I didn't have an informationclearinghouse link. I guess they magically ignored the topic...

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                          Sorry. I didn't have an informationclearinghouse link. I guess they magically ignored the topic...

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                          http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18046.htm[^] Well worth a read.

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                            http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18046.htm[^] Well worth a read.

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                            informationclearinghouse :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                              I love America. I'd call someone who shits all over the Bill of Rights a traitor before someone exercising their right to dissent. Dissent is what makes a true American. Falling in line, keeping your head down, and being a good little consumer might work for you and your friends in the cul-de-sac, but it's what's allowed this country to fall so far. Thanks a lot for nothing, just keep your head down, real Americans will get us out of this mess without help from the loyalist fringe.

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                              You don't love America, what you love is the European Social welfare state you want to turn it into. If what you are saying about Bush is true, than it has been true of nearly every president we have ever had, and most of the people who have ever fought and died for this country. You do not represent anything even remotely in keeping with what this country was intended to be. You are a traitor to every single principle it was established to achieve. Of course, the sad part is that you are simply too ignorant to understand that. A sad little brainwashed child who thinks he knows something because he read it on the internet. What a goddamend joke.

                              Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority.

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                                Fox News :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                                AndyKEnz :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                                  I love America. I'd call someone who shits all over the Bill of Rights a traitor before someone exercising their right to dissent. Dissent is what makes a true American. Falling in line, keeping your head down, and being a good little consumer might work for you and your friends in the cul-de-sac, but it's what's allowed this country to fall so far. Thanks a lot for nothing, just keep your head down, real Americans will get us out of this mess without help from the loyalist fringe.

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                                  IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                  I love America.

                                  But you'd rather spend time defending a South American Marxist who confiscates property from corporations and who is willing to throw anyone out of the country who disagrees with him and who has suspended his own country's constituition, instead of doing something that proves your "love". Ya. that's cool.

                                  IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                  I'd call someone who shits all over the Bill of Rights a traitor before someone exercising their right to dissent.

                                  As a constituitional authority I am certain you have page after page of such shitting. Have you forwarded that documentation to your representative so he / she can institute impeachment proceedings? Or are you willing to just whine and show your support for a dictator?

                                  IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                  Falling in line, keeping your head down, and being a good little consumer might work for you and your friends in the cul-de-sac

                                  How is life in your section 8 housing? I hear they have very few cul-de-sacs there.

                                  IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                  but it's what's allowed this country to fall so far.

                                  Fall? The last time I checked, this fallen country: Lets losers whine in a public forum allows march on our capital hoisting treasonus signs in support of the country's enemies Is one of the very few true world powers Is a financial powerhouse Permits religous and political speech in a public forum Goes to the rescue of virtually any nation in crisis, not all but nearly so. oh, ya, it also: legally listens in to over seas calls made to or from known enemies of the country. incarcerates non-uniformed enemies captured on a battlefield, preventing them from killing members of our all volunteer fighting force. supports an all volunteer army to protect idiot whiners along with patriots and individuals who simply want to live a safe and free live.

                                  Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                    IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                    Dissent is what makes a true American.

                                    So then neo-Nazis, who clearly dissent against the US government, are exceptional Americans? "Dissent" does not make a true American (all Americans dissent against aspects of American government). However, its content and extremity can certainly make someone a traitor.

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                                    I don't know, why don't you ask them at your next meeting?

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                                      I don't know, why don't you ask them at your next meeting?

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                                      IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                      I don't know, why don't you ask them at your next meeting?

                                      So that's your response? You spout rhetoric that basically describes neo-Nazis as superior Americans and, when challenged, you call me a neo-Nazi? That sheds a lot of light on just how brainwashed you are.

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                                        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18046.htm[^] Well worth a read.

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                                        AndyKEnZ wrote:

                                        Well worth a read.

                                        Wow: "Bill Clinton, the most violent president of the late 20th century. " Gotta love it. Real objective truth here. Clinton - more violent than Kennedy, Johnson, Truman, Roosevelt, Bush Sr., Reagan, et. al. That was the most laughable piece of pure propaganda I think I've ever read.

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                                          You don't love America, what you love is the European Social welfare state you want to turn it into. If what you are saying about Bush is true, than it has been true of nearly every president we have ever had, and most of the people who have ever fought and died for this country. You do not represent anything even remotely in keeping with what this country was intended to be. You are a traitor to every single principle it was established to achieve. Of course, the sad part is that you are simply too ignorant to understand that. A sad little brainwashed child who thinks he knows something because he read it on the internet. What a goddamend joke.

                                          Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority.

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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          You don't love America, what you love is the European Social welfare state you want to turn it into.

                                          America is already a welfare state, only for major corporations and military contractors. If we're going to distribute welfare checques, I'd like to see them in the hands of those who really need them, rather than feeding our $500B killing-brown-people habit or fostering "economic growth", i.e. country club memberships for the mega-rich. Hell, you're on welfare if you listen to the beleaguered ultra-rich that have to carry you on tax day.

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          If what you are saying about Bush is true

                                          If what I'm saying of Bush is true, that's all that matters. You are relegated to the fringe of American politics. Enjoy your stay there with the militias, the "all income tax is theft" morons and white power activists.

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                                          and most of the people who have ever fought and died for this country.

                                          Like my grandfather, who flew jets in Korea, or my father, who faught in Vietnam? Can you tell me what great gains were made for democracy that will balance out never knowing my grandfather? While you're at it, explain how those fighting and dying in Iraq are helping our country. Explain it to their children, too.

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          You do not represent anything even remotely in keeping with what this country was intended to be.

                                          You don't know anything about me, and you never will. You can't begin to tell me what I represent, since the concept of subtlety and nuance is so alien to you. If I want to help my fellow man in time of need I am a "commie". If I fear for my rights and speak out against what is fast becoming a tyrannical government I am a "traitor". Keep calling names, it has served your party so well!

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          A sad little brainwashed child who thinks he knows something because he read it on the internet. What a goddamend joke.

                                          Yet it is you who sounds so angry and so shrill. Like a child who has lost his favorite toy: control of American politics. You have likely never lived in an inner city. Chances are, you have few minority friends, have never even approached the breadth of life experience I have enjoyed. Have you ever roped cattle from horseback? Ever live

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