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  • M Mic Mathi

    No US has a responsibility to prevent the spreading of nuclear technology.

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    Rob Graham
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    And the rest including Pakistan don't? India already has nuclear technology (and weapons, as does Pakistan), it's not like they are getting anything new. Did it occur to you that by providing the fuel under inspection agreements, the US actually has a better chance of preventing misuse than if they forced India to go somewhere else?

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      And the rest including Pakistan don't? India already has nuclear technology (and weapons, as does Pakistan), it's not like they are getting anything new. Did it occur to you that by providing the fuel under inspection agreements, the US actually has a better chance of preventing misuse than if they forced India to go somewhere else?

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      Mic Mathi
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      Yes, but if India violates the agreement then what will do? Can US challenge the India like Iran or Afghanistan?

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      • M Mic Mathi

        Yes, but if India violates the agreement then what will do? Can US challenge the India like Iran or Afghanistan?

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        We can certainly stop supplying. I would be far more worried if it were Pakistan we were providing reactor fuel to. They have alread demonstrated that they cannot be trusted not to spread the technology.

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        • R Red Stateler

          No single technology has prevented more war than nuclear bombs.

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          MAD sucks, but it works.

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          • R Red Stateler

            No single technology has prevented more war than nuclear bombs.

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            Red Stateler wrote:

            No single technology has prevented more war than nuclear bombs.

            It's only prevented the nuclear powers from waging nuclear war. Since the advent of nuclear weapons, there has been plenty of conventional war to go around.

            Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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            • T Tim Craig

              Red Stateler wrote:

              No single technology has prevented more war than nuclear bombs.

              It's only prevented the nuclear powers from waging nuclear war. Since the advent of nuclear weapons, there has been plenty of conventional war to go around.

              Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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              Ed Gadziemski
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              Don't torture Red. You know facts make his stomach hurt.

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              • E Ed Gadziemski

                Don't torture Red. You know facts make his stomach hurt.

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                Tim Craig
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                Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                Don't torture Red. You know facts make his stomach hurt.

                Let him reap what he sows! :cool:

                Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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                • M Mic Mathi

                  No US has a responsibility to prevent the spreading of nuclear technology.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Why ? Does it not occur to you that if India is going to get this stuff anyhow, that being the supplier gives the US more ability to watch what's done with it ?

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                  • T Tim Craig

                    Red Stateler wrote:

                    No single technology has prevented more war than nuclear bombs.

                    It's only prevented the nuclear powers from waging nuclear war. Since the advent of nuclear weapons, there has been plenty of conventional war to go around.

                    Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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                    Red Stateler
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                    Tim Craig wrote:

                    It's only prevented the nuclear powers from waging nuclear war. Since the advent of nuclear weapons, there has been plenty of conventional war to go around.

                    Exactly. No two nuclear powers have ever gone to war with one another.

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                    • R Red Stateler

                      Tim Craig wrote:

                      It's only prevented the nuclear powers from waging nuclear war. Since the advent of nuclear weapons, there has been plenty of conventional war to go around.

                      Exactly. No two nuclear powers have ever gone to war with one another.

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                      Red Stateler wrote:

                      Exactly. No two nuclear powers have ever gone to war with one another.

                      That is because YHVH is protecting His chosen people until the end days.

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                      • E Ed Gadziemski

                        Don't torture Red. You know facts make his stomach hurt.

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                        He should be renamed Gray Stateler

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                        • T Tim Craig

                          Red Stateler wrote:

                          No single technology has prevented more war than nuclear bombs.

                          It's only prevented the nuclear powers from waging nuclear war. Since the advent of nuclear weapons, there has been plenty of conventional war to go around.

                          Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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                          It's possible that the nuclear deterrent is a bit last century. It has worked well for, shall we say, conventional governments that fear self destruction. But what if the power was to fall into the hands of a commander-in-chief who had the same mentality and beliefs as a suicide bomber? I should add that I pose this as a hypothetical question, I have no concerns along these lines from the current nuclear powers, including India - the world's largest democracy.


                          Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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                            It's possible that the nuclear deterrent is a bit last century. It has worked well for, shall we say, conventional governments that fear self destruction. But what if the power was to fall into the hands of a commander-in-chief who had the same mentality and beliefs as a suicide bomber? I should add that I pose this as a hypothetical question, I have no concerns along these lines from the current nuclear powers, including India - the world's largest democracy.


                            Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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                            cp9876 wrote:

                            I have no concerns along these lines from the current nuclear powers

                            Pakistan doesn't bother you? Or North Korea although they've (supposedly) tabled their program until the next time they need to blackmail the west for goods or services?

                            Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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                              cp9876 wrote:

                              I have no concerns along these lines from the current nuclear powers

                              Pakistan doesn't bother you? Or North Korea although they've (supposedly) tabled their program until the next time they need to blackmail the west for goods or services?

                              Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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                              cp9876
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                              Many of the nuclear powers worry me (and the ones you mention are high on the list) - but not particularly "along these lines".


                              Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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                              • M Mic Mathi

                                US will supply nuclear fuel to India. I am not think that they won't use it for militant purpose. But this is a real threat against Pakistan and China. How can the US ensure the nuclear fuel will not use for making U-bombs?

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                                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                Mic Mathi wrote:

                                But this is a real threat against Pakistan and China.

                                Excellent. Let India follow the safe policy of "Open Doors and Secure Borders" just like DHS (http://www.dhs.gov/[^])

                                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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