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  • B Benjamin Dodd

    What version of VB is everyone using, i use VB 6. What are peoples views on this?

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    Paul Conrad
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    Benjamin Dodd wrote:

    i use VB 6

    It's pretty much dead language, now days.

    Benjamin Dodd wrote:

    What version of VB

    VB.NET if there is really ever a need for it...

    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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      ok, and nice quote. I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy, once i get better at coding i will use C++ or soming along those lines. What language are you best with?

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        Benjamin Dodd wrote:

        i use VB 6

        It's pretty much dead language, now days.

        Benjamin Dodd wrote:

        What version of VB

        VB.NET if there is really ever a need for it...

        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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        • B Benjamin Dodd

          ok, and nice quote. I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy, once i get better at coding i will use C++ or soming along those lines. What language are you best with?

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          Benjamin Dodd wrote:

          I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy

          Just go to VB.NET. VB6 is no longer supported.

          Benjamin Dodd wrote:

          What language are you best with?

          C++/C#/Java/PHP/Perl/Fortran/VB.NET/Assembly (80x86, 6502), just to name a few ;P Take note of my other sig at the bottom :-D

          "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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            Benjamin Dodd wrote:

            I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy

            Just go to VB.NET. VB6 is no longer supported.

            Benjamin Dodd wrote:

            What language are you best with?

            C++/C#/Java/PHP/Perl/Fortran/VB.NET/Assembly (80x86, 6502), just to name a few ;P Take note of my other sig at the bottom :-D

            "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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            haha :( i jus bought the VB 6 book, :( and that comment is not funny haha, you are a Genius hehe, you know lots of languages, im only 16, what do u suggest i use to program, i used C++ some time ago i have the books for that. Just found it a bit ahrd after a while. Any suggestions

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              haha :( i jus bought the VB 6 book, :( and that comment is not funny haha, you are a Genius hehe, you know lots of languages, im only 16, what do u suggest i use to program, i used C++ some time ago i have the books for that. Just found it a bit ahrd after a while. Any suggestions

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              Benjamin Dodd wrote:

              you know lots of languages

              Awww, shucks :) I started programming when I was 9 and that was almost 26 years ago. Since you just got a VB6 book, carry on. I'd get the fundamentals down, and move on to C++/C#.

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              ust found it a bit ahrd after a while

              What is so hard about C++? Object Oriented Programming? MFC?

              "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                Benjamin Dodd wrote:

                you know lots of languages

                Awww, shucks :) I started programming when I was 9 and that was almost 26 years ago. Since you just got a VB6 book, carry on. I'd get the fundamentals down, and move on to C++/C#.

                Benjamin Dodd wrote:

                ust found it a bit ahrd after a while

                What is so hard about C++? Object Oriented Programming? MFC?

                "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                ok, wow you started at 9, thats real early :) i started at 15, and i was doind ok with c++ just wasn`t understanding the codes very well and when i got to the secong chapter in my book, variables and strings i was confused however another read i may understand it more, because at this time i was taking my GCSEs so it wernt the best time to fill my head with new knoledge, i will read 'C++ in easy steps' a bit tomorro, maybe i will get a better understanding of it. I will contiue with VB 6 however because i have the book hehe. What was the first language u got familier with?

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                  ok, wow you started at 9, thats real early :) i started at 15, and i was doind ok with c++ just wasn`t understanding the codes very well and when i got to the secong chapter in my book, variables and strings i was confused however another read i may understand it more, because at this time i was taking my GCSEs so it wernt the best time to fill my head with new knoledge, i will read 'C++ in easy steps' a bit tomorro, maybe i will get a better understanding of it. I will contiue with VB 6 however because i have the book hehe. What was the first language u got familier with?

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                  Here's the chronological order I went with: First actual language I became familiar with was the built in Basic that came with the Commodore 64/128 systems. From there, I went on to learning assembly language for the 6502 chip which the C64/128 ran on. After that, I upgraded to my first Intel based machine in 1991, a 386 running at 25mhz, and it was a significant leap from the C64/128. Did a quick stint with Quick Basic 4.5/VB 1.0 (never really looked at VB again until VB.NET showed up), with some Microsoft Pascal. Started at the local community college in 1992, learning Ada (at the time concurrently C++). Java came around a while later, along with PHP. Started with C# around 2002, or so, and that has been pretty much the language of choice, unless clients dictate otherwise.

                  "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                    Here's the chronological order I went with: First actual language I became familiar with was the built in Basic that came with the Commodore 64/128 systems. From there, I went on to learning assembly language for the 6502 chip which the C64/128 ran on. After that, I upgraded to my first Intel based machine in 1991, a 386 running at 25mhz, and it was a significant leap from the C64/128. Did a quick stint with Quick Basic 4.5/VB 1.0 (never really looked at VB again until VB.NET showed up), with some Microsoft Pascal. Started at the local community college in 1992, learning Ada (at the time concurrently C++). Java came around a while later, along with PHP. Started with C# around 2002, or so, and that has been pretty much the language of choice, unless clients dictate otherwise.

                    "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                    ok wow thats alot, i have used BASIC before when i installed it in school haha, it was quite good however went swiftly on to VB 2005 express edition then i couldnt get the book for that version, so i switched to VB 6, and before BASIC me and a friends used to use C++ in school to make .exe files and just play around with C++ really, thanks for your help i will contiuse with VB 6 however at the same time i shall learn C++. I hope i have more luck with C++ this time around haha i'm sure doing a level math will help me with this I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die hehe This is including JAVA whith at the moment i know nothing about.

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                      ok, wow you started at 9, thats real early :) i started at 15, and i was doind ok with c++ just wasn`t understanding the codes very well and when i got to the secong chapter in my book, variables and strings i was confused however another read i may understand it more, because at this time i was taking my GCSEs so it wernt the best time to fill my head with new knoledge, i will read 'C++ in easy steps' a bit tomorro, maybe i will get a better understanding of it. I will contiue with VB 6 however because i have the book hehe. What was the first language u got familier with?

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                      Hi, don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6. If you study the ancient books you seem to own, you will be old before you get to the current stuff, and it will not increase your market value. Don't let the accidental book take the decisions for you... I would go for C#: modern language, fully object oriented, more powerful than VB.NET, less hassle than managed C++, offers all the powers .NET provides. So I suggest you buy one introductory book on C# and study it thoroughly, download Visual Studio C# Express Edition (it is free), and read some CodeProject articles. :)

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                        Hi, don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6. If you study the ancient books you seem to own, you will be old before you get to the current stuff, and it will not increase your market value. Don't let the accidental book take the decisions for you... I would go for C#: modern language, fully object oriented, more powerful than VB.NET, less hassle than managed C++, offers all the powers .NET provides. So I suggest you buy one introductory book on C# and study it thoroughly, download Visual Studio C# Express Edition (it is free), and read some CodeProject articles. :)

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                        Hi, thanks for your comment, my books are quite old hehe because i buy them second-hand cheep. Thanks, i will download C# tomorro and get a book from the libary to introduce me to it. Thanks for your help :):)

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                          Hi, don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6. If you study the ancient books you seem to own, you will be old before you get to the current stuff, and it will not increase your market value. Don't let the accidental book take the decisions for you... I would go for C#: modern language, fully object oriented, more powerful than VB.NET, less hassle than managed C++, offers all the powers .NET provides. So I suggest you buy one introductory book on C# and study it thoroughly, download Visual Studio C# Express Edition (it is free), and read some CodeProject articles. :)

                          Luc Pattyn


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                          Luc Pattyn wrote:

                          don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6

                          Been trying to tell him :)

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                            ok wow thats alot, i have used BASIC before when i installed it in school haha, it was quite good however went swiftly on to VB 2005 express edition then i couldnt get the book for that version, so i switched to VB 6, and before BASIC me and a friends used to use C++ in school to make .exe files and just play around with C++ really, thanks for your help i will contiuse with VB 6 however at the same time i shall learn C++. I hope i have more luck with C++ this time around haha i'm sure doing a level math will help me with this I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die hehe This is including JAVA whith at the moment i know nothing about.

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                            Benjamin Dodd wrote:

                            I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die

                            Once you've got a few languages under your belt, then learning more is actually pretty easy once the the fundamentals are down pat :)

                            "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                              Luc Pattyn wrote:

                              don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6

                              Been trying to tell him :)

                              "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                              haha thanks everyone, you are great helps, so i will start with C# tomorro

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                                haha thanks everyone, you are great helps, so i will start with C# tomorro

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                                What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language, it is really advanced, does anyone have experience with this language??

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                                  Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                  don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6

                                  Been trying to tell him :)

                                  "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                                  trying

                                  just a little bit of psychology is all that was required :-D

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                                  • B Benjamin Dodd

                                    What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language, it is really advanced, does anyone have experience with this language??

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                                    Hi, The number of messages in the C# forum far exceeds the number in the VB forum. That may indicate there are more people interested, more application possible, but also more questions, or maybe more problems. I suggest you read some of the messages and make up your own mind on this. I for one have been using just C# (and plain C for native stuff) since I started using .NET, although I have been using VB long long ago. And yes I do read messages in other forums too, most problems are not really language specific anyway. :)

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                                      Hi, The number of messages in the C# forum far exceeds the number in the VB forum. That may indicate there are more people interested, more application possible, but also more questions, or maybe more problems. I suggest you read some of the messages and make up your own mind on this. I for one have been using just C# (and plain C for native stuff) since I started using .NET, although I have been using VB long long ago. And yes I do read messages in other forums too, most problems are not really language specific anyway. :)

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                                      ok thank you, ill go in the other forum later, i came in this one to ask about VB 6. Thanks

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                                        What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language, it is really advanced, does anyone have experience with this language??

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                                        Benjamin Dodd wrote:

                                        What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language

                                        Just about any as in any other language.

                                        Benjamin Dodd wrote:

                                        it is really advanced

                                        Nahhh, it's pretty straightforward. Advanced for a beginner like yourself, but the marketable skill set you get from it is far better than VB6 :rolleyes:

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                                        • B Benjamin Dodd

                                          ok, and nice quote. I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy, once i get better at coding i will use C++ or soming along those lines. What language are you best with?

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                                          VB 6 is infinitely more of a pain to learn compared to vb.net. And by learning vb6 you will be learning methods that are out of date. Many coding practices are now spread across the board for languages because they all use the .net framework. That said, vb.net basically uses syntax to call bits of C++. So VB.net is a great stepping stone to more complex languages.

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