Sir Elton John Wants The Internet Closed
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I to am not a fan of the Sun nor Elton John, my family never buy the sun as it is pure crap however i got this email from 'Insider' which tells me the latest news in the world of technology, and i found this article. I did not fall for it, EJ doesn't have the power to shut down the net, and even if he did people would find a way round it. I just wanted to hear what other people thought of this article, i did'nt fall for it.
Benjamin Dodd
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Benjamin Dodd wrote:
EJ doesn't have the power to shut down the net
I doubt EJ ever said any such thing - I suspect the most he did was make some grumpy-old-man remark in passing about the 'net being anti-social and some smart alec then turned that into the story you read. The ideas expressed there are nonsense, and everyone, including the author, knows it. They will appeal to a few old die-hards, but no-one takes them seriously. As King Canute demonstrated, you can't hold back the tide.... When the printing press was invented, books were slammed by some as being anti-social too (stuck there with your nose buried in a book - dreadful! get out there and meet people!) Really, it barely even merits a sensible discussion; treat it, and anyone who expresses such views (which may or may not include EJ) with the comtempt they deserve - consign them to history and ignore them. cheers Fred
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This article from The Sun says that Elton Hohn wishes to close the internet!! POP legend Sir Elton John wants the internet CLOSED DOWN. Never one to keep his opinions to himself, the Rocket Man has waded into cyberspace with all guns blazing. He claims it is destroying good music, saying: “The internet has stopped people from going out and being with each other, creating stuff. “Instead they sit at home and make their own records, which is sometimes OK but it doesn’t bode well for long-term artistic vision. “It’s just a means to an end. “We’re talking about things that are going to change the world and change the way people listen to music and that’s not going to happen with people blogging on the internet. “I mean, get out there — communicate. “Hopefully the next movement in music will tear down the internet. “Let’s get out in the streets and march and protest instead of sitting at home and blogging. “I do think it would be an incredible experiment to shut down the whole internet for five years and see what sort of art is produced over that span. “There’s too much technology available. “I’m sure, as far as music goes, it would be much more interesting than it is today.” Multi-millionaire Elton, who turned 60 earlier this year, has admitted in the past that he is a bit behind the times. The Grammy award-winner was once quoted as saying: “I am the biggest technophobe of all time. “I don’t have a mobile phone or an iPod or anything. “I am such a Luddite when it comes to making music. All I can do is write at the piano.” Sales of Elton’s last album The Captain & The Kid were disappointing — it barely shifted 100,000 copies. And in the past Sir Elt has opposed illegal downloading of his music from the net. But the flamboyant singer has embraced the web in other ways. The 60th birthday concert Sir Elton played to a 20,000-strong crowd at New York’s Madison Square Garden was streamed live over the internet. The singer also announced earlier this year that his entire back catalogue of albums would be made available for digital download. The internet has played a huge role in kick-starting the careers of some of Britain’s best new talent. Sandi Thom shot to fame after broadcasting webcam concerts from her London basement flat, while both the Arctic Monkeys and Lily Allen acknowledge the part played by the web in their success. But Elton also complained about the quality of music being released. He said: “In the early Seventies there were at least ten albums released every week that were fa
Benjamin Dodd wrote:
What are people views on this?
It's not going to happen. The internet (arpanet as it was then) was originally designed as a military network in the 60s that could withstand a nuclear attack. It was thought that you'd have to take out 90% before it collapsed. The design is such that if you take out one node, the traffic routes around it if it can. In order to shut down the internet you would have to take out an awful lot of infrastructure.
Elton John wrote:
I mean, get out there — communicate
The thing is, I do. I use the internet to organise events (see my homepage[^] for proof of that. And I've got a lot more events in the pipeline that aren't up there yet. Scottish Developers are putting on 4 events in Glasgow from September (once I get the speakers confirmed) which I'm organising. And there will be a bunch of events in Edinburgh too. And next spring we are running our first big conference: Developer Day Scotland.
Upcoming events: * Glasgow: Mock Objects, SQL Server CLR Integration, Reporting Services, db4o, Dependency Injection with Spring ... "I wouldn't say boo to a goose. I'm not a coward, I just realise that it would be largely pointless." My website
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Benjamin Dodd wrote:
What are people views on this?
It's not going to happen. The internet (arpanet as it was then) was originally designed as a military network in the 60s that could withstand a nuclear attack. It was thought that you'd have to take out 90% before it collapsed. The design is such that if you take out one node, the traffic routes around it if it can. In order to shut down the internet you would have to take out an awful lot of infrastructure.
Elton John wrote:
I mean, get out there — communicate
The thing is, I do. I use the internet to organise events (see my homepage[^] for proof of that. And I've got a lot more events in the pipeline that aren't up there yet. Scottish Developers are putting on 4 events in Glasgow from September (once I get the speakers confirmed) which I'm organising. And there will be a bunch of events in Edinburgh too. And next spring we are running our first big conference: Developer Day Scotland.
Upcoming events: * Glasgow: Mock Objects, SQL Server CLR Integration, Reporting Services, db4o, Dependency Injection with Spring ... "I wouldn't say boo to a goose. I'm not a coward, I just realise that it would be largely pointless." My website
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Elton John wrote: I mean, get out there — communicate
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
The thing is, I do. I use the internet to organise events
More than that - like millions of others, we're all here on CP talking, debating, arguing... chances are we'd never even know of each other without the Intenet. It's given literally millions of people the world over the chance to be creative (or at least express themselves...) who never would otherwise. The printing press, the telephone and TV all pale into isignificance compared to the Internet in terms of the social revilution they have brought about - and this one's still in its infancy... Elton John, if he did indeed say half of what is attributed to him here, should heed the words of Bob Dylan: "Come mothers and fathers Throughout the land And don't criticize What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is Rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'."
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Benjamin Dodd wrote:
article from The Sun
Benjamin Dodd wrote:
What are people views on this?
Let's start at the beginning: one plus one equals...
...Bananas?
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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...Bananas?
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistWell good grief if you really need it spelling out to you: the Sun is pure unadulterated cr*p from start to finish - there is no need to ask (my) opinion of anything printed therein: pure unadulterated cr*p. Really, it is to the printed word what Big Brother is to television - it is so staggeringly, offensively awful that one can only feel a mixture of horror and pity (depending on mood) for those that read/look at it. Bananas, on the other hand, are good. I had one at lunch. Very nice.
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This article from The Sun says that Elton Hohn wishes to close the internet!! POP legend Sir Elton John wants the internet CLOSED DOWN. Never one to keep his opinions to himself, the Rocket Man has waded into cyberspace with all guns blazing. He claims it is destroying good music, saying: “The internet has stopped people from going out and being with each other, creating stuff. “Instead they sit at home and make their own records, which is sometimes OK but it doesn’t bode well for long-term artistic vision. “It’s just a means to an end. “We’re talking about things that are going to change the world and change the way people listen to music and that’s not going to happen with people blogging on the internet. “I mean, get out there — communicate. “Hopefully the next movement in music will tear down the internet. “Let’s get out in the streets and march and protest instead of sitting at home and blogging. “I do think it would be an incredible experiment to shut down the whole internet for five years and see what sort of art is produced over that span. “There’s too much technology available. “I’m sure, as far as music goes, it would be much more interesting than it is today.” Multi-millionaire Elton, who turned 60 earlier this year, has admitted in the past that he is a bit behind the times. The Grammy award-winner was once quoted as saying: “I am the biggest technophobe of all time. “I don’t have a mobile phone or an iPod or anything. “I am such a Luddite when it comes to making music. All I can do is write at the piano.” Sales of Elton’s last album The Captain & The Kid were disappointing — it barely shifted 100,000 copies. And in the past Sir Elt has opposed illegal downloading of his music from the net. But the flamboyant singer has embraced the web in other ways. The 60th birthday concert Sir Elton played to a 20,000-strong crowd at New York’s Madison Square Garden was streamed live over the internet. The singer also announced earlier this year that his entire back catalogue of albums would be made available for digital download. The internet has played a huge role in kick-starting the careers of some of Britain’s best new talent. Sandi Thom shot to fame after broadcasting webcam concerts from her London basement flat, while both the Arctic Monkeys and Lily Allen acknowledge the part played by the web in their success. But Elton also complained about the quality of music being released. He said: “In the early Seventies there were at least ten albums released every week that were fa
Benjamin Dodd wrote:
Sir Elton John wants the internet CLOSED DOWN
Yeah right, over my dead body :mad:;P
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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OK.
Benjamin Dodd wrote:
EJ doesn't have the power to shut down the net
I doubt EJ ever said any such thing - I suspect the most he did was make some grumpy-old-man remark in passing about the 'net being anti-social and some smart alec then turned that into the story you read. The ideas expressed there are nonsense, and everyone, including the author, knows it. They will appeal to a few old die-hards, but no-one takes them seriously. As King Canute demonstrated, you can't hold back the tide.... When the printing press was invented, books were slammed by some as being anti-social too (stuck there with your nose buried in a book - dreadful! get out there and meet people!) Really, it barely even merits a sensible discussion; treat it, and anyone who expresses such views (which may or may not include EJ) with the comtempt they deserve - consign them to history and ignore them. cheers Fred
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Well good grief if you really need it spelling out to you: the Sun is pure unadulterated cr*p from start to finish - there is no need to ask (my) opinion of anything printed therein: pure unadulterated cr*p. Really, it is to the printed word what Big Brother is to television - it is so staggeringly, offensively awful that one can only feel a mixture of horror and pity (depending on mood) for those that read/look at it. Bananas, on the other hand, are good. I had one at lunch. Very nice.
relax, Fred, I know Sun headlines well enough :D
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist -
relax, Fred, I know Sun headlines well enough :D
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistyeah sorry but some things really get me... and the Sun (and it's ilk) and what they stand for just make me want to spew... people laugh it off as "just a little harmless fun", but it isn't - it's an insidious disease that eats away at the heart and soul of society, pushing fake morals and phony intellectualism upon it's readership. It is a sad reflection of a society that thinks itself advanced and civilised that we entertain such rubbish. You think I'm not relaxed? You should see me angry.... :)
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Well good grief if you really need it spelling out to you: the Sun is pure unadulterated cr*p from start to finish - there is no need to ask (my) opinion of anything printed therein: pure unadulterated cr*p. Really, it is to the printed word what Big Brother is to television - it is so staggeringly, offensively awful that one can only feel a mixture of horror and pity (depending on mood) for those that read/look at it. Bananas, on the other hand, are good. I had one at lunch. Very nice.
Fred_Smith wrote:
Bananas, on the other hand, are good. I had one at lunch. Very nice.
They are best served with their brethren: apples, oranges and kiwis (optionally grapes and strawberries). Cut them into cubes, and mix them altogether into a tasty fruit salad. :)
-- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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This article from The Sun says that Elton Hohn wishes to close the internet!! POP legend Sir Elton John wants the internet CLOSED DOWN. Never one to keep his opinions to himself, the Rocket Man has waded into cyberspace with all guns blazing. He claims it is destroying good music, saying: “The internet has stopped people from going out and being with each other, creating stuff. “Instead they sit at home and make their own records, which is sometimes OK but it doesn’t bode well for long-term artistic vision. “It’s just a means to an end. “We’re talking about things that are going to change the world and change the way people listen to music and that’s not going to happen with people blogging on the internet. “I mean, get out there — communicate. “Hopefully the next movement in music will tear down the internet. “Let’s get out in the streets and march and protest instead of sitting at home and blogging. “I do think it would be an incredible experiment to shut down the whole internet for five years and see what sort of art is produced over that span. “There’s too much technology available. “I’m sure, as far as music goes, it would be much more interesting than it is today.” Multi-millionaire Elton, who turned 60 earlier this year, has admitted in the past that he is a bit behind the times. The Grammy award-winner was once quoted as saying: “I am the biggest technophobe of all time. “I don’t have a mobile phone or an iPod or anything. “I am such a Luddite when it comes to making music. All I can do is write at the piano.” Sales of Elton’s last album The Captain & The Kid were disappointing — it barely shifted 100,000 copies. And in the past Sir Elt has opposed illegal downloading of his music from the net. But the flamboyant singer has embraced the web in other ways. The 60th birthday concert Sir Elton played to a 20,000-strong crowd at New York’s Madison Square Garden was streamed live over the internet. The singer also announced earlier this year that his entire back catalogue of albums would be made available for digital download. The internet has played a huge role in kick-starting the careers of some of Britain’s best new talent. Sandi Thom shot to fame after broadcasting webcam concerts from her London basement flat, while both the Arctic Monkeys and Lily Allen acknowledge the part played by the web in their success. But Elton also complained about the quality of music being released. He said: “In the early Seventies there were at least ten albums released every week that were fa