To break the monotony....a religious discusion!
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I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
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I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
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leckey wrote:
What do you all think?
If those atheists want a school to reflect their religious beliefs at the expense of others, then they should go to a private atheist school.
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I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
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As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in school... ;) -- modified at 16:30 Thursday 9th August, 2007
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As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in school... ;) -- modified at 16:30 Thursday 9th August, 2007
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
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I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
_____________________________________________ Flea Market! It's just like...it's just like...A MINI-MALL!
People seem to have such fragile and vulnerable beliefs. Participating in an public event that remotely 'feels' like prayer has ended up with militia taking arms against religion. Plus it gives them their 15 minutes. I've attended public school, I was confident enough with my beliefs that I didn't feel threatened at the slightest mention of God or the act of praying.
Think of it this way...using a Stradivarius violin to pound nails should not be considered a sound construction technique
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As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in school... ;) -- modified at 16:30 Thursday 9th August, 2007
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLyou beat me to it! I was too busy attempting to explain what statistical mean anomaly was. I am sure I failed, but at least I tried.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Yes, it's amazing how many find religion during finals!
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leckey wrote:
it's amazing how many find religion during finals
hedge your bets, pick 'em all!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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you beat me to it! I was too busy attempting to explain what statistical mean anomaly was. I am sure I failed, but at least I tried.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
I was too busy attempting to explain what statistical mean anomaly was.
That was not a graph of statistical mean anomaly. Just read the description of the data set. It says what it is. :rolleyes:
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I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
_____________________________________________ Flea Market! It's just like...it's just like...A MINI-MALL!
What I don't understand is how far can the Freedom of Religion be stretched? People don't want to hear about the Ten Commandments, so they sue get them taking out. People don't want to have a time of pray to God(I am stating the Christian God), so they sue get that changed to a moment of silence. Okay, here is where I find a big problem(among others). If you take out anything that resembles pray in any way to any deity, then does that not invade on Freedom of Religion? What do the Buddhist, Islamics, and other religions think about this? Where does ones right to be offended over step my right to my religious beliefs? What would happen if every time the ACLU files suit against something Christian, a Christian organization counter-suits for invasion on Freedom of Religion? When is to far to far and who says that its to far?
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them. -
leckey wrote:
What do you all think?
If those atheists want a school to reflect their religious beliefs at the expense of others, then they should go to a private atheist school.
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I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
_____________________________________________ Flea Market! It's just like...it's just like...A MINI-MALL!
I think the pledge that precedes it troubles me more than anything likely to be happening during a moment of silence.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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I think the pledge that precedes it troubles me more than anything likely to be happening during a moment of silence.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
Shog9 wrote:
I think the pledge that precedes it troubles me more than anything
Why, because it says one nation under God?
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them. -
I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
_____________________________________________ Flea Market! It's just like...it's just like...A MINI-MALL!
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I read an article on FoxNews.com about a Texas family that is suing the school district. After the pledge of allegiance they have a 'moment of silence.' It's not called a prayer, but a moment of silence. The parents say it's school sanctioned prayer. Personally I do not see it that way. It's just a moment to do what you want...quietly. Pray if you want to. Plan your day. Try to remember if you put your underwear on the right way...it doesn't matter. Apparently this family is on a crusade to get rid of anything remotely religious from the school or school activities. I think this is overstepping because as I said, you can do whatever you want with the moment. What do you all think?
_____________________________________________ Flea Market! It's just like...it's just like...A MINI-MALL!
That's just pathetic. For me personally, I'd prefer the school NOT pray and NOT have any sort of RI, on the basis that I'd rather take responsibility for that, than have the school teach my kids something that perhaps I don't agree with. But, we're about to send our kids to a Catholic school, because they are the only ones with the facilities to help my son, and I'll just have to play it by ear. Either way, a moment of silence is about the most innocent thing I can think of. We have a moment of silence on remembrance day, do you guys have that ? Will they ban that, too ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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That's just pathetic. For me personally, I'd prefer the school NOT pray and NOT have any sort of RI, on the basis that I'd rather take responsibility for that, than have the school teach my kids something that perhaps I don't agree with. But, we're about to send our kids to a Catholic school, because they are the only ones with the facilities to help my son, and I'll just have to play it by ear. Either way, a moment of silence is about the most innocent thing I can think of. We have a moment of silence on remembrance day, do you guys have that ? Will they ban that, too ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
we're about to send our kids to a Catholic school
So you don't believe in God or any god but yet you are sending your son to a Catholic school?:confused:
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them. -
What I don't understand is how far can the Freedom of Religion be stretched? People don't want to hear about the Ten Commandments, so they sue get them taking out. People don't want to have a time of pray to God(I am stating the Christian God), so they sue get that changed to a moment of silence. Okay, here is where I find a big problem(among others). If you take out anything that resembles pray in any way to any deity, then does that not invade on Freedom of Religion? What do the Buddhist, Islamics, and other religions think about this? Where does ones right to be offended over step my right to my religious beliefs? What would happen if every time the ACLU files suit against something Christian, a Christian organization counter-suits for invasion on Freedom of Religion? When is to far to far and who says that its to far?
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them.jason_lakewhitney wrote:
What I don't understand is how far can the Freedom of Religion be stretched?
What does this have to do with freedom of religion? You can pray any time you want! You have the freedom to pray before class starts, during class if you do it quietly and don't interfere with class, and after class, at recess, at lunch, etc. But apparently that isn't good enough for you. You want the government to set aside time during class when everybody is supposed to pray. In other words, you want the government to promote religion.
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jason_lakewhitney wrote:
What I don't understand is how far can the Freedom of Religion be stretched?
What does this have to do with freedom of religion? You can pray any time you want! You have the freedom to pray before class starts, during class if you do it quietly and don't interfere with class, and after class, at recess, at lunch, etc. But apparently that isn't good enough for you. You want the government to set aside time during class when everybody is supposed to pray. In other words, you want the government to promote religion.
scpierre wrote:
You have the freedom to pray before class starts, during class if you do it quietly and don't interfere with class, and after class, at recess, at lunch, etc.
Do you believe that this right or freedom should be taking away?
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them. -
Shog9 wrote:
I think the pledge that precedes it troubles me more than anything
Why, because it says one nation under God?
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them.jason_lakewhitney wrote:
Why, because it says one nation under God?
Because it's just stupid. I can see having adults say some sort of oath or pledge if they join the military or the police or something, but these are just kids. Every time this pledge issue comes up I see pictures of small children in class with their hands over their hearts, and I bet most if not all of those kids have no idea what the word "allegiance" even means. Why on earth would you want little kids to swear their allegiance to anything!? What does it even mean for a child to swear their allegiance to something? This whole pledge business is nothing but brainwashing and indocrination as far as I'm concerned.
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scpierre wrote:
You have the freedom to pray before class starts, during class if you do it quietly and don't interfere with class, and after class, at recess, at lunch, etc.
Do you believe that this right or freedom should be taking away?
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them.jason_lakewhitney wrote:
Do you believe that this right or freedom should be taking away?
No, of course not. Why would I? People can pray whenever they want to and it doesn't bother me if they do. But this isn't about individuals choosing to pray when they want to, it's about the government setting aside class time that clearly is meant for prayer.
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jason_lakewhitney wrote:
Why, because it says one nation under God?
Because it's just stupid. I can see having adults say some sort of oath or pledge if they join the military or the police or something, but these are just kids. Every time this pledge issue comes up I see pictures of small children in class with their hands over their hearts, and I bet most if not all of those kids have no idea what the word "allegiance" even means. Why on earth would you want little kids to swear their allegiance to anything!? What does it even mean for a child to swear their allegiance to something? This whole pledge business is nothing but brainwashing and indocrination as far as I'm concerned.
scpierre wrote:
Why on earth would you want little kids to swear their allegiance to anything!?
You are making a good point. If you wouldn't pledge allegiance to your country, then why would you want your kids too?
God Bless, Jason
God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them.