Some hope for MC++ coders
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But yes, we do intend to add this feature to a future version of the product and we are working very hard to make that the very first future version. Ronald Laeremans Visual C++ compiler and libraries team Cool huh? That was in response to a question by someone asking when MC++ will have a Windows Forms designer :-)
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Yes, this really looks like good news Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
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Yes, this really looks like good news Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
****Alexpro wrote: Yes, this really looks like good news I hope they bring it out as a Service Pack [which is free] instead of as a new version [which won't be free] Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
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I wonder how useful this feature really is. What advantages do we get for doing UI code in MC++ compared to doing it in C# ? Michael :-) "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot"
Michael P Butler wrote: What advantages do we get for doing UI code in MC++ compared to doing it in C# ? None whatsoever:) It is good to see that you are slowly subscribing to my views Mike.:)
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But yes, we do intend to add this feature to a future version of the product and we are working very hard to make that the very first future version. Ronald Laeremans Visual C++ compiler and libraries team Cool huh? That was in response to a question by someone asking when MC++ will have a Windows Forms designer :-)
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
I wonder how useful this feature really is. What advantages do we get for doing UI code in MC++ compared to doing it in C# ? Michael :-) "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot"
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****Alexpro wrote: Yes, this really looks like good news I hope they bring it out as a Service Pack [which is free] instead of as a new version [which won't be free] Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
Nish - Native CPian wrote: I hope they bring it out as a Service Pack [which is free] instead of as a new version [which won't be free] Surely you'll just be using a pirated version anyway :-D :-D :-D Michael :-) "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot"
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I wonder how useful this feature really is. What advantages do we get for doing UI code in MC++ compared to doing it in C# ? Michael :-) "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot"
If the rest of your app is in MC++ you don't have to ship a separate assembly for the UI ;P Otherwise there isn't an advantage that I can think of. James
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I wonder how useful this feature really is. What advantages do we get for doing UI code in MC++ compared to doing it in C# ? Michael :-) "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot"
Michael P Butler wrote: What advantages do we get for doing UI code in MC++ compared to doing it in C# ? None except personal preference. Basically anything you do in C# can be one-to-one mapped in VB .NET But still lot of people don't do VB .NET. Similarly some only do VB .NET. And I prefer MC++. And I can tell you that it's a cool feeling when you can use an MFC CString alongside a .NET String in the same source file. You cannot do that with C# or VB .NET, can you? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
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Nish - Native CPian wrote: I hope they bring it out as a Service Pack [which is free] instead of as a new version [which won't be free] Surely you'll just be using a pirated version anyway :-D :-D :-D Michael :-) "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot"
Michael P Butler wrote: Surely you'll just be using a pirated version anyway Pirated versions don’t come free MPB. You gotta pay for them. And if you compare salaries, I pay as much of my monthly salary for a pirated CD, that a regular software guy in most other countries would pay for a legal copy of VS .NET. Anyway I strongly intend to make some money and get myself a LEGAL MSDN subscription. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
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Nish - Native CPian wrote: I hope they bring it out as a Service Pack [which is free] instead of as a new version [which won't be free] Surely you'll just be using a pirated version anyway :-D :-D :-D Michael :-) "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot"
Nish may use some pirated software but his VS.NET CDs ARE originals from Microsoft. Its just that they were originally given to me and we'll just say that Nish pulled them out of the trash can next to my desk right after I tossed them :P Come to think of it, I still have another set sitting next to me :-D Michael P Butler wrote: "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot" Nothing gets you thinking like burning your jewels in the morning. ;) James
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If the rest of your app is in MC++ you don't have to ship a separate assembly for the UI ;P Otherwise there isn't an advantage that I can think of. James
James T. Johnson wrote: Otherwise there isn't an advantage that I can think of. Some languages are more comfortable. When you do MC++, you don't feel as alienated from real unmanaged life as when you do C# Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
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Nish may use some pirated software but his VS.NET CDs ARE originals from Microsoft. Its just that they were originally given to me and we'll just say that Nish pulled them out of the trash can next to my desk right after I tossed them :P Come to think of it, I still have another set sitting next to me :-D Michael P Butler wrote: "Eureka" is Greek for "This bath is too hot" Nothing gets you thinking like burning your jewels in the morning. ;) James
James T. Johnson wrote: Nish may use some pirated software but his VS.NET CDs ARE originals from Microsoft. :jig: :jig: :jig: James T. Johnson wrote: Nothing gets you thinking like burning your jewels in the morning Now we know what a jewelhole is! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
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James T. Johnson wrote: Otherwise there isn't an advantage that I can think of. Some languages are more comfortable. When you do MC++, you don't feel as alienated from real unmanaged life as when you do C# Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
Nish - Native CPian wrote: When you do MC++, you don't feel as alienated from real unmanaged life as when you do C# I don't feel alienated from it because I have P/Invoke and if I really need to, I know I can just create an assembly in MC++ and do my work there. James
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Nish - Native CPian wrote: When you do MC++, you don't feel as alienated from real unmanaged life as when you do C# I don't feel alienated from it because I have P/Invoke and if I really need to, I know I can just create an assembly in MC++ and do my work there. James
James T. Johnson wrote: I have P/Invoke James T. Johnson wrote: create an assembly in MC++ Why go to all that bother just to do C#? What's so appealing about it? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
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James T. Johnson wrote: I have P/Invoke James T. Johnson wrote: create an assembly in MC++ Why go to all that bother just to do C#? What's so appealing about it? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
For .NET code its a lot cleaner to me. You need to be aware of a few performance tweaks (such as avoiding unnecessary boxing) but over all the syntax is much better. Which of these do you prefer? MC++
ptr = *dynamic_cast<__box System::IntPtr*>(arlist->Item[index]);
or this C#
ptr = (IntPtr) arlist[index]
However, the code I sent you the other day would convince me to switch to MC++ in a heart beat :cool: James
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For .NET code its a lot cleaner to me. You need to be aware of a few performance tweaks (such as avoiding unnecessary boxing) but over all the syntax is much better. Which of these do you prefer? MC++
ptr = *dynamic_cast<__box System::IntPtr*>(arlist->Item[index]);
or this C#
ptr = (IntPtr) arlist[index]
However, the code I sent you the other day would convince me to switch to MC++ in a heart beat :cool: James
James T. Johnson wrote: However, the code I sent you the other day would convince me to switch to MC++ in a heart beat Yeah. That was cool :-)
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
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Michael P Butler wrote: What advantages do we get for doing UI code in MC++ compared to doing it in C# ? None except personal preference. Basically anything you do in C# can be one-to-one mapped in VB .NET But still lot of people don't do VB .NET. Similarly some only do VB .NET. And I prefer MC++. And I can tell you that it's a cool feeling when you can use an MFC CString alongside a .NET String in the same source file. You cannot do that with C# or VB .NET, can you? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Buy it, read it and admire me :-)
Nish - Native CPian wrote: And I can tell you that it's a cool feeling when you can use an MFC CString alongside a .NET String in the same source file. You cannot do that with C# or VB .NET, can you? Actually, isn't that an ATL string [in] MFC [in] .NET ;) Rocky Moore
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Nish - Native CPian wrote: And I can tell you that it's a cool feeling when you can use an MFC CString alongside a .NET String in the same source file. You cannot do that with C# or VB .NET, can you? Actually, isn't that an ATL string [in] MFC [in] .NET ;) Rocky Moore
Rocky Moore wrote: Actually, isn't that an ATL string [in] MFC [in] .NET Yes it is :-D
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