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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    You don't read what I write. I said I'm an atheist, but I also say that I go one step further and dismiss everything you have to say about god(s). I think you are foolish to believe in it, since you have not a shred of evidence for your proposition.

    Chris-Kaiser wrote:

    why try to convince others of your non-belief

    I suppose it's a misplaced streak of altruism on my part. My bad.

    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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    It can only be altruism if your position is the correct one. And that you are truly freeing people from their oppressive dreams of a creator. But, in that assumption you are no different than Fundamentalist Christians. Yes, I am agnostic. And I do read what you write. You have a condescending attitude towards anything religious. I imagine to protect yourself mentally, but then you assume a position of the enlightened and take it upon yourself to ridicule those who disagree with you in some vague attempt at misconstrued altruism, hoping to save the poor savages from their mental crutches. But just like the religious, you are swinging in the dark, making assumptions you can't prove, all the while claiming lack of proof as your foundation. How convenient.

    This statement was never false.

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      It can only be altruism if your position is the correct one. And that you are truly freeing people from their oppressive dreams of a creator. But, in that assumption you are no different than Fundamentalist Christians. Yes, I am agnostic. And I do read what you write. You have a condescending attitude towards anything religious. I imagine to protect yourself mentally, but then you assume a position of the enlightened and take it upon yourself to ridicule those who disagree with you in some vague attempt at misconstrued altruism, hoping to save the poor savages from their mental crutches. But just like the religious, you are swinging in the dark, making assumptions you can't prove, all the while claiming lack of proof as your foundation. How convenient.

      This statement was never false.

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Chris-Kaiser wrote:

      But, in that assumption you are no different than Fundamentalist Christians.

      I am nothing like them. I don't rely on hearsay and fairy tales.

      Chris-Kaiser wrote:

      But just like the religious, you are swinging in the dark, making assumptions you can't prove, all the while claiming lack of proof as your foundation. How convenient.

      I am not the one with ridiculous propositions (i.e., I'm not the one swinging in the dark). I feel quite comfortable with that, thank you very much.

      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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        It can only be altruism if your position is the correct one. And that you are truly freeing people from their oppressive dreams of a creator. But, in that assumption you are no different than Fundamentalist Christians. Yes, I am agnostic. And I do read what you write. You have a condescending attitude towards anything religious. I imagine to protect yourself mentally, but then you assume a position of the enlightened and take it upon yourself to ridicule those who disagree with you in some vague attempt at misconstrued altruism, hoping to save the poor savages from their mental crutches. But just like the religious, you are swinging in the dark, making assumptions you can't prove, all the while claiming lack of proof as your foundation. How convenient.

        This statement was never false.

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        Red Stateler
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        Chris-Kaiser wrote:

        Yes, I am agnostic.

        And also apparently a liar.[^]

        Chris-Kaiser wrote:

        And to clarify again, I'm a Christian as well.


        If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          Chris-Kaiser wrote:

          But, in that assumption you are no different than Fundamentalist Christians.

          I am nothing like them. I don't rely on hearsay and fairy tales.

          Chris-Kaiser wrote:

          But just like the religious, you are swinging in the dark, making assumptions you can't prove, all the while claiming lack of proof as your foundation. How convenient.

          I am not the one with ridiculous propositions (i.e., I'm not the one swinging in the dark). I feel quite comfortable with that, thank you very much.

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

          I am nothing like them. I don't rely on hearsay and fairy tales.

          Christianity is based on historical eyewitness texts. By contrast, your atheism, like mysticism, is based on your own invented and baseless beliefs.


          If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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            Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

            I am nothing like them. I don't rely on hearsay and fairy tales.

            Christianity is based on historical eyewitness texts. By contrast, your atheism, like mysticism, is based on your own invented and baseless beliefs.


            If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            Dumbass.

            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              Dumbass.

              -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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              Mystic.


              If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                But, in that assumption you are no different than Fundamentalist Christians.

                I am nothing like them. I don't rely on hearsay and fairy tales.

                Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                But just like the religious, you are swinging in the dark, making assumptions you can't prove, all the while claiming lack of proof as your foundation. How convenient.

                I am not the one with ridiculous propositions (i.e., I'm not the one swinging in the dark). I feel quite comfortable with that, thank you very much.

                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                I'm not the one swinging in the dark

                If it makes you feel better to say so. Prove it.

                This statement was never false.

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                  Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                  Yes, I am agnostic.

                  And also apparently a liar.[^]

                  Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                  And to clarify again, I'm a Christian as well.


                  If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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                  Yep. An Agnostic Christian, as I don't think modern Christianity has it right. Yet I follow Jesus. I guess an Agnostic Jesusonian is more correct. I believe in God, yet I don't rule out that I don't know. So I do suspend belief. Contradiction? Maybe. I'll leave you to figuring out your own cognizant dissonance. But I am not so arrogant as to state that I know there is a God. Just that my own experiences lead me to believe so. But logic dictates that its altogether possible I'm wrong in my belief. That's the problem I have with fundamentalism. Orthodoxy. There's no room for questioning, yet it is during this questioning that we discover and grow. To each his own Red. You can champion your cause of making soapbox posters look dumb. That's your superhero mission alongside pimping anything in the neo-con manual. I'll continue to think for myself regardless of how many think my theories are whack. At least I know they are just theories.

                  This statement was never false.

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                    Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                    I'm not the one swinging in the dark

                    If it makes you feel better to say so. Prove it.

                    This statement was never false.

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    It's tiresome to argue with people who just don't understand.

                    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      It's tiresome to argue with people who just don't understand.

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                      Chris Kaiser
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                      Exactly.

                      This statement was never false.

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