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  • R Red Stateler

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    Nearly twice as many U.S. adults are obese compared to European, a key factor
    leading Americans to suffer more often from cancer, diabetes and other chronic
    ailments, a study released on Tuesday found.

    The United States spends significantly more per capita than any European country on
    health care, about $2 trillion annually, or 16 percent of the gross domestic product.
    While the big discrepancy has been linked to higher U.S. prices for medical treatment,
    the report said a sicker population may also be a factor.

    So assuming a nationalized health care system displaced the convoluted system we have now, how would that address our relatively unhealthy population? What would be the incentive, short of government mandate, to not be so darned fat? Perhaps if medical bills were actually paid for by individuals, such that if they put down that twinky they might have lower costs...They might actually do so?


    If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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    Simple. You'd have to stand in line for hours to get an appointment, strengthening your leg muscles. Buerocrats would send you up and down long hospital floors and stairs. You'd need to bend down and kiss ass to get any treatment approved, giving your back some exercise. Cheap medicine would leave you without appetite, putting you on a state-ordered diet. It's really simple, once you think about it. On a more serious note: One would assume that with mostly private health care, people would be encouraged to take things into their own hands more. Apparently, not so much.


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      Mike Mullikin wrote:

      My "conclusions" are based on the 44 years of my life coupled with my own weight problems over those years. I lost 80 pounds when I finally started to give a damn.

      So My conclusion should become: Americans are fat because they all behave like Mike Mullikin who took 44 years to give a damn. My conclusion that Americans make stupid generalizations will never change.

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      TimK wrote:

      My conclusion that Americans make stupid generalizations will never change.

      Good for you. :rolleyes:

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        Red Stateler wrote:

        Perhaps if medical bills were actually paid for by individuals, such that if they put down that twinky they might have lower costs...They might actually do so?

        Isn't that the case now? Yet Americans are not "incentivized" enough to be healthy. You know, there's more than one kind of incentive. You don't have to rely on punishment alone, positive incentives and making healthy options more accessible might do a lot to make Americans healthier. More walkable communities instead of far-flung suburbs connected by what are essentially fast-food drive thrus disguised as roads. Better nutrition education. Stronger warnings about junk food. More truth in advertising. This is one of many parts of life the free market has failed, in my opinion. Perhaps if health care costs are carried by government, more effort will be made to control the unhealthy and frankly poisonous lifestyle sold to us by mega-corporations.

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        Get out of my thread, you degenerate. *spit*


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          A lack of personal responsibility is a large part of the reason you are all such lard arses. Where else can you eat a big mac or two everyday then sue mcdonalds cause you got fat!

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          Josh Gray wrote:

          A lack of personal responsibility is a large part of the reason you are all such lard arses. Where else can you eat a big mac or two everyday then sue mcdonalds cause you got fat!

          Congress actually passed legislation protecting fast-food chains from fat-suits and none have succeeded prior to that legislation.


          If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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            Simple. You'd have to stand in line for hours to get an appointment, strengthening your leg muscles. Buerocrats would send you up and down long hospital floors and stairs. You'd need to bend down and kiss ass to get any treatment approved, giving your back some exercise. Cheap medicine would leave you without appetite, putting you on a state-ordered diet. It's really simple, once you think about it. On a more serious note: One would assume that with mostly private health care, people would be encouraged to take things into their own hands more. Apparently, not so much.


            We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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            peterchen wrote:

            On a more serious note: One would assume that with mostly private health care, people would be encouraged to take things into their own hands more. Apparently, not so much.

            The economics of health insurance are more similar to socialism than the free market, only membership is optional. Most insurance plans have a relatively nominal deductible such that it basically covers all or most health care costs. There is absolutely no incentive to compare prices and services and little incentive to be healthier or visit the doctor less often. Consumer-driven health plans, however, use market forces.


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              Get out of my thread, you degenerate. *spit*


              If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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              Sorry for hurting you feelings, you big baby.

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                Sorry for hurting you feelings, you big baby.

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                IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                Sorry for hurting you feelings, you big baby.

                I'm sorry, but you didn't hurt my feelings. You just exposed yourself as the worthless degenerate you are. You deserve nothing but contempt. *spit*


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                  Someone needs to invent food thats good tasting, filling, inexpensive, and low calorie. Currently you can't get the 1st 3 without it being fattening junk. :(( And don't be suggesting salads. X| That's what food eats before it's processed into a nice thick rare steak. :cool:

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                  Wholemeal bread? Fruit? Vegatables?

                  Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                    K(arl) wrote:

                    I see you adapt yourself well to the french way of life

                    Indeed! I'm starting to like France. It's not like Switzerland! And your food...oh man... I'm already putting on weight. :-D

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                    I am not surprised! I was in Dijon a few weeks back and all I could see to eat was Tartiflette, Raclette, Tartiflette Pizza (yea, like with potatoes and half a Reblouchon on top), more pizzas, and Entrecote. No salads, no fish, nothing light at all. Nice, but skiing food without the skiing is DIY heart atack time.

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                      IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                      Sorry for hurting you feelings, you big baby.

                      I'm sorry, but you didn't hurt my feelings. You just exposed yourself as the worthless degenerate you are. You deserve nothing but contempt. *spit*


                      If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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                      Anybody rape your wife yet?

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                        Anybody rape your wife yet?

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                        *spit*


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                          I am not surprised! I was in Dijon a few weeks back and all I could see to eat was Tartiflette, Raclette, Tartiflette Pizza (yea, like with potatoes and half a Reblouchon on top), more pizzas, and Entrecote. No salads, no fish, nothing light at all. Nice, but skiing food without the skiing is DIY heart atack time.

                          Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          I am not surprised! I was in Dijon a few weeks back and all I could see to eat was Tartiflette, Raclette, Tartiflette Pizza (yea, like with potatoes and half a Reblouchon on top), more pizzas, and Entrecote. No salads, no fish, nothing light at all. Nice, but skiing food without the skiing is DIY heart atack time.

                          Yeah, it's not Paris. This is campagne food. Heavy on the fat and cream. I just had veal kidneys with creme fraiche and mushrooms. Man it was good, but I can't do that every week...

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                            Josh Gray wrote:

                            A lack of personal responsibility is a large part of the reason you are all such lard arses. Where else can you eat a big mac or two everyday then sue mcdonalds cause you got fat!

                            Congress actually passed legislation protecting fast-food chains from fat-suits and none have succeeded prior to that legislation.


                            If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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                            Red Stateler wrote:

                            Congress actually passed legislation protecting fast-food chains from fat-suits and none have succeeded prior to that legislation.

                            Exatcly! You need to legislate to tell people "its your own bloody fault"

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                              fat_boy wrote:

                              I am not surprised! I was in Dijon a few weeks back and all I could see to eat was Tartiflette, Raclette, Tartiflette Pizza (yea, like with potatoes and half a Reblouchon on top), more pizzas, and Entrecote. No salads, no fish, nothing light at all. Nice, but skiing food without the skiing is DIY heart atack time.

                              Yeah, it's not Paris. This is campagne food. Heavy on the fat and cream. I just had veal kidneys with creme fraiche and mushrooms. Man it was good, but I can't do that every week...

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                              I like Provence for the reason that it has a Mediteranean diet and a Mountain diet because it is where the Alps meet the sea. The charcuterie is exellent, the fish, vegetables and salad too, and when you want itm beef daube, tartiflette and pizzas. Theres also some good asian food around, especially vietnamese, but Thai and Indian too and some tex mex places, even in small towns. My favourite right now is Roquefort salad with wallnuts. I just cant get enough of it. But since winter is comming I feel my Cheese Fondue taste buds awakening... Hmm, cantal jeune, ementall, Picpul de Pinet, gruyerre, beaufort....

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