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  • D Dan Neely

    mercury in rock is contained and isn't going anywhere. Mercury dumped into the trash will eventually leak out of the landfill or become air pollution at the incinerator. In either case it goes from being contained and harmless to into the environment and causing problems.

    -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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    led mike
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    dan neely wrote:

    In either case it goes from being contained and harmless to into the environment and causing problems.

    So do people, what's your point? ;P

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    • R Red Stateler

      Well all bulbs differ from the sun. Incandescents[^] heavily favor yellow. I'd just like to see some LEDs bulbs in home use to see what they look like. I'm guessing that since nobody is widely producing them that they might not look all that great.


      Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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      LEDs for the home can be found by looking hard enough. I wouldn't recommend it currently, one of the big problems is you can't replace a single bulb, the whole must be replaced (think of a chandelier, if one bulb goes out you must buy a new chandelier, not just replace the burned out bulb). One bulb is pocket change but the whole fixture is upwards of $40.

      this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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        LEDs for the home can be found by looking hard enough. I wouldn't recommend it currently, one of the big problems is you can't replace a single bulb, the whole must be replaced (think of a chandelier, if one bulb goes out you must buy a new chandelier, not just replace the burned out bulb). One bulb is pocket change but the whole fixture is upwards of $40.

        this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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        Have you seen any that are suitable for general purpose use? I've looked in the past but the only consumer one I've seen was IIRC a 25W equivalent, and the amazon comments were that it was too directional for general purpose usage but made a decent work table spot.

        -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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          LEDs for the home can be found by looking hard enough. I wouldn't recommend it currently, one of the big problems is you can't replace a single bulb, the whole must be replaced (think of a chandelier, if one bulb goes out you must buy a new chandelier, not just replace the burned out bulb). One bulb is pocket change but the whole fixture is upwards of $40.

          this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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          Red Stateler
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          jimwawar wrote:

          LEDs for the home can be found by looking hard enough. I wouldn't recommend it currently, one of the big problems is you can't replace a single bulb, the whole must be replaced (think of a chandelier, if one bulb goes out you must buy a new chandelier, not just replace the burned out bulb). One bulb is pocket change but the whole fixture is upwards of $40.

          You mean the whole fixture that constitutes a bulb equivalent to one incandescent? When I looked at them online, that's about the price range I saw, making it financially insensible.


          Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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          • D Dan Neely

            Have you seen any that are suitable for general purpose use? I've looked in the past but the only consumer one I've seen was IIRC a 25W equivalent, and the amazon comments were that it was too directional for general purpose usage but made a decent work table spot.

            -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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            The one I was able to root up here (one store in population base of 350,000) were if I recall 60W. They produced a reasonable range of illumination (not spot, but not as general as an incandescent) Don't recall the manufacturer.

            this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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              jimwawar wrote:

              LEDs for the home can be found by looking hard enough. I wouldn't recommend it currently, one of the big problems is you can't replace a single bulb, the whole must be replaced (think of a chandelier, if one bulb goes out you must buy a new chandelier, not just replace the burned out bulb). One bulb is pocket change but the whole fixture is upwards of $40.

              You mean the whole fixture that constitutes a bulb equivalent to one incandescent? When I looked at them online, that's about the price range I saw, making it financially insensible.


              Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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              One LED fixture to replace one incandescent bulb contains many LED bulbs. As the bulbs die the light becomes less until a new fixture is purchased.

              this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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                dan neely wrote:

                In either case it goes from being contained and harmless to into the environment and causing problems.

                So do people, what's your point? ;P

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                I think the problem with mercury and other heavy metals is that they tend to accumulate in animals and so move up the foodchain. Tied up in compounds in the earth is fine, but we tend to process them into forms that can be absorbed into living cells. I'm not sure of the exact process (e.g. whether it involves plants), but essentially we release it into the environment, small creatures absorb it, they get eaten by larger creatures and it passes up the foodchain very efficiently. This is why I make a rule of not regularly eating large fish (e.g. swordfish) as they sit high up the food chain and tend to have higher levels of heavy metals. A quick google threw this up http://www.lenntech.com/heavy-metals.htm[^]


                Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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                • R Red Stateler

                  CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

                  Whats up with that? Thats a terrible signature.

                  I was recently robbed and IAmChrisMcCall went on about how wonderful it was and insinuated that my wife being raped would have been a good thing (she was fortunately not home). I added his quote to my signature to preserve evidence of his absolute classlessness.


                  Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                  I never did anything of the sort. I made fun of him for being robbed. He was the one who brought up his wife's rape in order to get attention on the internet. Isn't that right, Eric?

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                    Red Stateler wrote:

                    wonderful it was and insinuated that my wife being raped would have been a good thing

                    Thats absolutely terrible. If someone said something like that to me in person I would break his jaw.

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                    CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

                    If someone said something like that to me in person I would break his jaw.

                    Oh, OK internet tough guy. You and Eric make a cute couple.

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                      I never did anything of the sort. I made fun of him for being robbed. He was the one who brought up his wife's rape in order to get attention on the internet. Isn't that right, Eric?

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                      IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                      I never did anything of the sort. I made fun of him for being robbed. He was the one who brought up his wife's rape in order to get attention on the internet. Isn't that right, Eric?

                      I brought the fact that she could have very well been raped had she been home (another woman was killed the next day not too far from me in a similar incident) and you thought it was a great idea. You then followed up later with what I quoted you in order to continue the harassment. Why? Simply because you are a classless degenerate. *spit*


                      Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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