Of mice and men
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I would do what anyone would: find someone that knows how to treat it in a manner that they find acceptable.
Fred_Smith wrote:
I would do what anyone would: find someone that knows how to treat it in a manner that they find acceptable.
Bzzt. Too vague to be meaningful. You made a pretty specific claim: that no matter what kind of cancer it was, you think that your choice of treatment for your kid with hodgkin's lymphoma would do better than my choice of treatment. So what's your treatment? What are the stats on it? Is there a non animal-testing, non-invasive option that does better for Stage I Hodgkin's Lymphoma than a 90% 5yr survival rate?
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Fred_Smith wrote:
Didn't save many then, did you, with your wonderful animal-tested drugs? And wouldn't their final hours have been better at home, in familiar surroundings, instead of a sterile hospital?
What do you care, sociopath?
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
What have I said that makes you think I don't care? I just disagree - passionately - with your methods of finding cures for disease. You are insisting that your method is the only way to stop suffering, and it quite patently isn't - in fact, I believe it causes more than it solves, and that is one argument I have against it. So how does that make me a sociopath?
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73Zeppelin wrote:
. What did he think that was, some kind of trump card he had that he's the only one that ever watched a loved one die?
I dind't offer it: You asked, so I told you. So now f*** off.
Fred_Smith wrote:
I dind't offer it: You asked, so I told you. So now f*** off.
I asked it as a rhetorical question, tool. You offered it freely and independently in a pathetic attempt to make me feel bad. Too bad it didn't work. You're so much of a selfish and self-absorbed twat you didn't think it possible for anyone else in the world to have had some form of tragedy occur in their lives. You're an amoral, selfish, self-absorbed, sociopathic and disturbed personality. This interaction with hollow husk of a human being has left a bad taste in my mouth. You're sick. I've got your number and it's sitting in my signature.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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What have I said that makes you think I don't care? I just disagree - passionately - with your methods of finding cures for disease. You are insisting that your method is the only way to stop suffering, and it quite patently isn't - in fact, I believe it causes more than it solves, and that is one argument I have against it. So how does that make me a sociopath?
Fred_Smith wrote:
What have I said that makes you think I don't care? I just disagree - passionately - with your methods of finding cures for disease. You are insisting that your method is the only way to stop suffering, and it quite patently isn't - in fact, I believe it causes more than it solves, and that is one argument I have against it. So how does that make me a sociopath?
What now? Decided to be more civil? Too bad you already left your impression on me and it's not one I care to interact with. Go chat up the other inmates at the asylum. I have better things to do. Sociopath.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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Fred_Smith wrote:
What have I said that makes you think I don't care? I just disagree - passionately - with your methods of finding cures for disease. You are insisting that your method is the only way to stop suffering, and it quite patently isn't - in fact, I believe it causes more than it solves, and that is one argument I have against it. So how does that make me a sociopath?
What now? Decided to be more civil? Too bad you already left your impression on me and it's not one I care to interact with. Go chat up the other inmates at the asylum. I have better things to do. Sociopath.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
73Zeppelin wrote:
I have better things to do.
What - torture some more animals? Or watch some more children die? You call me a sociopath, although I have said nothing to support such an accusation - it's just your spin on what I say. And you think I'm the sick one.... Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)
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73Zeppelin wrote:
I have better things to do.
What - torture some more animals? Or watch some more children die? You call me a sociopath, although I have said nothing to support such an accusation - it's just your spin on what I say. And you think I'm the sick one.... Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)
Fred_Smith wrote:
Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)
That's fantastic. I've got a record of this. Now, apparently, you are intending this as a threat. I happen to be in the middle of some legal proceedings at the moment. I'll be sure to ask my lawyer about what to do with your little threat when I see him on Thursday. At the moment, I've got to send a quick note to Maunder about your death-threat and harassment (you know, the things the explicit rules at the top of this message board say not to do). First thing I'll ask him is what documentation is needed to requisition your ISP information. Cheers.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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Fred_Smith wrote:
Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)
That's fantastic. I've got a record of this. Now, apparently, you are intending this as a threat. I happen to be in the middle of some legal proceedings at the moment. I'll be sure to ask my lawyer about what to do with your little threat when I see him on Thursday. At the moment, I've got to send a quick note to Maunder about your death-threat and harassment (you know, the things the explicit rules at the top of this message board say not to do). First thing I'll ask him is what documentation is needed to requisition your ISP information. Cheers.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
Go ahead. I haven't threatened you - just made a wish. Like all weak people with weak arguments, you feel threatened by others' words. You are pathetic.
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Go ahead. I haven't threatened you - just made a wish. Like all weak people with weak arguments, you feel threatened by others' words. You are pathetic.
Fred_Smith wrote:
Go ahead. I haven't threatened you - just made a wish.
That's your version anyways. Like I said, I'll see what my counsel tells me.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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Fred_Smith wrote:
Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)
That's fantastic. I've got a record of this. Now, apparently, you are intending this as a threat. I happen to be in the middle of some legal proceedings at the moment. I'll be sure to ask my lawyer about what to do with your little threat when I see him on Thursday. At the moment, I've got to send a quick note to Maunder about your death-threat and harassment (you know, the things the explicit rules at the top of this message board say not to do). First thing I'll ask him is what documentation is needed to requisition your ISP information. Cheers.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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Fred_Smith wrote:
No worse than yours. Just saying that whatever statistics you choose to "prove" your pet theory I could find others to "prove" mine.
If your notion of "proof" involves an abandonment of all intellectual standards, then you are right. That, however, is not an interesting test. In serious intellectual discussion, evidence counts and it does not equally support all hypotheses. Your claims to the contrary belong to the underworld of cranks and charlatans.
John Carson
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Fred_Smith wrote:
Go ahead. I haven't threatened you - just made a wish.
That's your version anyways. Like I said, I'll see what my counsel tells me.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
You do that. I suppose I could always ask mine about your libel. Like to see you prove in a court of law that I am a sociopath.
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How is that a threat? Only an idiot would try to prosecute someone for a childish insult like that.
INITCOMMONCONTROLSEX wrote:
How is that a threat? Only an idiot would try to prosecute someone for a childish insult like that.
I'm already pissed off with someone else regarding another legal issue surrounding my apartment. This turd today just annoyed me further. I'm seeing my lawyer Thursday, so I feel like asking him about it. Maybe I can get some idiot with a big mouth to be more careful in the future. What's it to you?
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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You do that. I suppose I could always ask mine about your libel. Like to see you prove in a court of law that I am a sociopath.
Fred_Smith wrote:
You do that. I suppose I could always ask mine about your libel. Like to see you prove in a court of law that I am a sociopath.
Chapter V of the tenth revision of the International Classification of Diseases offers a set of criteria for diagnosing the related construct of dissocial personality disorder. Dissocial Personality Disorder (F60.2), usually coming to attf a gross disparity between behavior and the prevailing social norms, and characterized by: * callous unconcern for the feelings of others; * gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations; * incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them; * very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence; * incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment; * marked proneness to blame others, or to offer plausible rationalizations, for the behavior that has brought the patient into conflict with society. Well, given the above, it's probably not too difficult, huh? What with you making death-threats, outbursts and all. That reminds me. I'll also ask him about this libel on your part: You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes. Which is particularly damaging to my professional reputation.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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INITCOMMONCONTROLSEX wrote:
How is that a threat? Only an idiot would try to prosecute someone for a childish insult like that.
I'm already pissed off with someone else regarding another legal issue surrounding my apartment. This turd today just annoyed me further. I'm seeing my lawyer Thursday, so I feel like asking him about it. Maybe I can get some idiot with a big mouth to be more careful in the future. What's it to you?
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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Quote: What's it to you? Nothing, but it seemed stupid how the two of you were rattling off at each other then you get your feelings hurt and threaten to contact your lawyer.
INITCOMMONCONTROLSEX wrote:
Nothing, but it seemed stupid how the two of you were rattling off at each other then you get your feelings hurt and threaten to contact your lawyer.
My feelings aren't hurt. He's claiming he hopes I die and then he followed it up by stating "it's personal". If I can sue for a few hundred Euros and teach him a lesson, why not? He's hardly being civil or rational. I'm in court anyways. It would be easy to add this to the docket and get some of my costs paid.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
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Fred_Smith wrote:
You do that. I suppose I could always ask mine about your libel. Like to see you prove in a court of law that I am a sociopath.
Chapter V of the tenth revision of the International Classification of Diseases offers a set of criteria for diagnosing the related construct of dissocial personality disorder. Dissocial Personality Disorder (F60.2), usually coming to attf a gross disparity between behavior and the prevailing social norms, and characterized by: * callous unconcern for the feelings of others; * gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations; * incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them; * very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence; * incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment; * marked proneness to blame others, or to offer plausible rationalizations, for the behavior that has brought the patient into conflict with society. Well, given the above, it's probably not too difficult, huh? What with you making death-threats, outbursts and all. That reminds me. I'll also ask him about this libel on your part: You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes. Which is particularly damaging to my professional reputation.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
You *have" caused or supported the suffering of millions of animals - whether you can justify it or not is another matter, but by supporting vivisection you are supporting this suffering. You simply cannot argue with that.
73Zeppelin wrote:
you making death-threats
More libel. I repeat: I have not made a death-threat agianst you. I have wished death upon you - which is not thwe same thing at all. And since when is getting angry a crime? Go on, go running to your lawyer, who'll no doubt enjoy taking your money off you for nothing.
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Who cares about all that though? According to the scientifically-proven Talking Snake Theory, God gave us dominion over all the animals. If animal testing helps keep someone alive so they can hear the gospel and not go to hell forever, it is worth it don't you think?
Dominion translates to stewardship, not domination.
This statement was never false.
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Fred_Smith wrote:
I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die. And no-one that supports vivisection has any right to accuse someone else of enjoying watching animals suffer. You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes.
Removed for privacy... I also watched upwards of 50 other children die on the pediatric ward on which I was working. You're a first-class idiot.
Fred_Smith wrote:
sh*thead, so f*** off and die.
There you go. That says it all about you, just like I said. -- modified at 12:23 Tuesday 9th October, 2007
Hmmm... if you make this emotional kid dying thing work, maybe we can use it for health care.
This statement was never false.
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Dominion translates to stewardship, not domination.
This statement was never false.
The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet — it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars — that's the Biblical view. -Ann Coulter
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Fred_Smith wrote:
Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)
That's fantastic. I've got a record of this. Now, apparently, you are intending this as a threat. I happen to be in the middle of some legal proceedings at the moment. I'll be sure to ask my lawyer about what to do with your little threat when I see him on Thursday. At the moment, I've got to send a quick note to Maunder about your death-threat and harassment (you know, the things the explicit rules at the top of this message board say not to do). First thing I'll ask him is what documentation is needed to requisition your ISP information. Cheers.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)
Of for fucks sake! You don't like the guy. We get it. But even a moron would be able to tell it wasn't a death threat. You both are pathetic.
This statement was never false.