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  • R Red Stateler

    I am sitting down, you leftist pig.


    Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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    led mike
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    Well you can label me whatever you like... after all that seems to be your specialty, but at least I am not a windbag full of pointless empty words. Live with that.

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      Let's see...Abu Garib (however you spell it) cover-up, the former head of the war now saying it's a disaster, secret torture areas across the world. Oh, and how they count secretarian deaths in Iraq. If it's Sunni on Sunni it's not counted nor if they shoot the person from the front. Anyone can manipulate the facts by not explaining all the facts to make the situation look better. I don't think it's a political organization, but I think every time Congress comes up to vote for more money for the military it's always good news, and we're on the right track.

      Hey! I finally found a picture of myself!

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      led mike
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      leckey wrote:

      Anyone can manipulate the facts by not explaining all the facts to make the situation look better.

      You hardly need to explain that to him. ;)

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      • M Matthew Faithfull

        I thought the problem with lasers was they're fantastic in space, no attenuation due to atmosphere but require power plants too big to actually be put into space at viable cost. On the ground the power is no problem but the laser powered required because of atmospheric interference is ridiculous. The 767 get's around this by having less atmosphere to worry about and enough carrying capacity for a more or less sufficient power plant?

        Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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        Dan Neely
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        The biggest problem with atmospheric effects is blooming as the air is heated and becomes turbulent. This can be mitigated via adaptive optic systems, although higher altitude systems will always have an advantage there. High altitude also allows for longer lines of sight to give a larger engagement bubble. The THEL (theater high energy laser) or whatever they've renamed it as this week isn't intended as a strategic system though. Instead it would cover a limited area by engaging the warheads during the rentry phase (maybe anything flying roughly overhead), it's primary prey would be scuds and katushas (russian rocket artillery). Depending on it's cycle rate it could even be used to stop artillery strikes, systems using high speed conventional guns have done this in tests.

        -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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        • M Matthew Faithfull

          I thought the problem with lasers was they're fantastic in space, no attenuation due to atmosphere but require power plants too big to actually be put into space at viable cost. On the ground the power is no problem but the laser powered required because of atmospheric interference is ridiculous. The 767 get's around this by having less atmosphere to worry about and enough carrying capacity for a more or less sufficient power plant?

          Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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          Ryan Roberts
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          They use chemical lasers, there's similar ground based technology for artillery defence[^]. I guess its effectiveness will depend a lot on weather conditions.

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          • R Red Stateler

            Andy Brummer wrote:

            None of the criticisms of the missile defense shield that I've seen claimed it was impossible, just that building counters to the shield are orders of magnitude cheaper then building the shield itself.

            Initially the complaints were that it was technically infeasible. Once it was technically proven through testing, it was deemed overcomeable. But if it's either, why are the Soviets so concerns about it?


            Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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            Dan Neely
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            Because they can't afford to build one of their own, and even if they can develop countermeasures for the current generation the next one might be much harder.

            -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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            • R Red Stateler

              link[^]

              The U.S. military believes it has dealt devastating and perhaps irreversible blows
              to al-Qaeda in Iraq in recent months, leading some generals to advocate a declaration
              of victory over the group, which the Bush administration has long described as the most
              lethal U.S. adversary in Iraq.
              ...
              The deployment of more U.S. and Iraqi forces into AQI strongholds in Anbar province and
              the Baghdad area, as well as the recruitment of Sunni tribal fighters to combat AQI
              operatives in those locations, has helped to deprive the militants of a secure base of
              operations, U.S. military officials said. "They are less and less coordinated, more and
              more fragmented," Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, the second-ranking U.S. commander in
              Iraq, said recently. Describing frayed support structures and supply lines, Odierno
              estimated that the group's capabilities have been "degraded" by 60 to 70 percent since
              the beginning of the year.

              And the missle defense shield that liberals claimed just two years ago was technically impossible is operational. Now when will we focus on the "impossible" task of tackling illegal immigration.


              Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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              IamChrisMcCall
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              Weren't there just a few dozen Al-Q operatives worldwide before we invaded Iraq and now there are thousands?

              Since CodeProject's privacy policy states that they will not distribute personal information -Eric Speirs, AKA Red Stateler

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                Let's see...Abu Garib (however you spell it) cover-up, the former head of the war now saying it's a disaster, secret torture areas across the world. Oh, and how they count secretarian deaths in Iraq. If it's Sunni on Sunni it's not counted nor if they shoot the person from the front. Anyone can manipulate the facts by not explaining all the facts to make the situation look better. I don't think it's a political organization, but I think every time Congress comes up to vote for more money for the military it's always good news, and we're on the right track.

                Hey! I finally found a picture of myself!

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                Red Stateler
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                leckey wrote:

                Anyone can manipulate the facts by not explaining all the facts to make the situation look better.

                They can't manipulate the fact that attacks have drastically declined.


                Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                • L led mike

                  Well you can label me whatever you like... after all that seems to be your specialty, but at least I am not a windbag full of pointless empty words. Live with that.

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                  Red Stateler
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                  led mike wrote:

                  Well you can label me whatever you like...

                  led mike wrote:

                  but at least I am not a windbag full of pointless empty words

                  Well then I hereby label you "a windbag full of pointless empty words".


                  Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                  • D Dan Neely

                    Because they can't afford to build one of their own, and even if they can develop countermeasures for the current generation the next one might be much harder.

                    -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                    Ryan Roberts
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                    Assuming the targets are states like NK or Iran they have enough difficulties with conventional ballistic missiles. Add the complexity of having to implement counter measures to an already difficult problem and the cost/benefit of the system looks a little better.

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                    • R Red Stateler

                      led mike wrote:

                      Well you can label me whatever you like...

                      led mike wrote:

                      but at least I am not a windbag full of pointless empty words

                      Well then I hereby label you "a windbag full of pointless empty words".


                      Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                      led mike
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                      Oh no, you must have bought that IBM Labeler attachment for your Logic Prism.

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                      • R Red Stateler

                        leckey wrote:

                        Anyone can manipulate the facts by not explaining all the facts to make the situation look better.

                        They can't manipulate the fact that attacks have drastically declined.


                        Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                        led mike
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                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        They can't manipulate the fact that attacks have drastically declined.

                        Have they declined to '23'? That would really tell us something!

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                        • L led mike

                          Oh no, you must have bought that IBM Labeler attachment for your Logic Prism.

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                          Red Stateler
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                          led mike wrote:

                          Logic Prism

                          I'm hoping you realize that "logic prism" sounds more like a compliment than an insult. When white light enters a prism, it is defracted into its separate component parts such that an observer can more readily see what compises the light. Apparently, you think I do that with arguments. I take a convoluted mess of an argument and expose the components parts for what they are. Thank you for the compliment.


                          Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                          • L leckey 0

                            The report was issued by the military. Not exactly an impartial report. I am skeptical.

                            Hey! I finally found a picture of myself!

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                            Mike Gaskey
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                            leckey wrote:

                            The report was issued by the military. Not exactly an impartial report. I am skeptical.

                            would you believe a military generated report that said, "conditions worsening, AQI gaining strength and momentum" ??

                            Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                            • R Red Stateler

                              Andy Brummer wrote:

                              None of the criticisms of the missile defense shield that I've seen claimed it was impossible, just that building counters to the shield are orders of magnitude cheaper then building the shield itself.

                              Initially the complaints were that it was technically infeasible. Once it was technically proven through testing, it was deemed overcomeable. But if it's either, why are the Soviets so concerns about it?


                              Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                              Andy Brummer
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                              Red Stateler wrote:

                              But if it's either, why are the Soviets so concerns about it

                              I don't know shit about it either way, but it seems like an easy way for the Russians to get some easy marketing. They just have to point the finger at what the evil Americans are doing. I just hope to hell it works half as good as they say it does, because it would be truly awful if decisions were made expecting a barely functioning piece of crap to save our asses.


                              This blanket smells like ham

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                              • M Mike Gaskey

                                leckey wrote:

                                The report was issued by the military. Not exactly an impartial report. I am skeptical.

                                would you believe a military generated report that said, "conditions worsening, AQI gaining strength and momentum" ??

                                Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                leckey 0
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                                I'm just saying they have a history of lying to the public. So if it's 'good' news I am skeptical. If it is bad, I figure it's really worse than they are reporting. A liar is a liar is a liar.

                                Hey! I finally found a picture of myself!

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                                • R Red Stateler

                                  led mike wrote:

                                  Why, is there a problem with the brand you use?

                                  Yes, it's too tungsteny.


                                  Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                                  Tim Craig
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                                  Red Stateler wrote:

                                  Yes, it's too tungsteny.

                                  There are no light bulbs lighting up over your head. :suss:

                                  Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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