73Zeppeilin - (not) guilty of libel [modified]
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Actually, I am a lot calmer than given credit for, but that doesn't matter. So what if I do get angry? Or use the odd four-letter word? The only troublwe with it, as far as I can see, is that it gives others the excuse they need to derail the argument by sidetracking it onto one about anger instead. But it's rather self-righteously pious to say "Oh you've got angry now so that proves you're wrong". And scientific debate requires an open mind. I have rarely come across so many people with such closed minds as on this forum. An awful lot of people here are intellectual snobs who are so convinced of their own intelligence that they can't conceive that they might have something to learn still. I guess all the adulation they get from being "wow a computer programmer" starts to sink in....
Fred_Smith wrote:
An awful lot of people here are intellectual snobs who are so convinced of their own intelligence that they can't conceive that they might have something to learn still. I guess all the adulation they get from being "wow a computer programmer" starts to sink in...
You do realize that you were arguing with a guy who has a PhD in physics, right? Perhaps he just has nothing to learn from you.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Fred_Smith wrote:
An awful lot of people here are intellectual snobs who are so convinced of their own intelligence that they can't conceive that they might have something to learn still. I guess all the adulation they get from being "wow a computer programmer" starts to sink in...
You do realize that you were arguing with a guy who has a PhD in physics, right? Perhaps he just has nothing to learn from you.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Q.E.D.
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Fred_Smith wrote:
An awful lot of people here are intellectual snobs who are so convinced of their own intelligence that they can't conceive that they might have something to learn still. I guess all the adulation they get from being "wow a computer programmer" starts to sink in...
You do realize that you were arguing with a guy who has a PhD in physics, right? Perhaps he just has nothing to learn from you.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Red Stateler wrote:
You do realize that you were arguing with a guy who has a PhD in physics, right? Perhaps he just has nothing to learn from you.
Actually, I'm a psychiatrist. I just diagnosed Chris-Kaiser with the synoptic problem! He wasn't very happy about that, though... poor fellow took it rather hard.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things)
"You don't know me well enough to diagnose me." - Chris-Kaiser (on the synoptic problem) -
Q.E.D.
Red wrote: You do realize that you were arguing with a guy who has a PhD in physics, right? Perhaps he just has nothing to learn from you. Fred_Smith wrote: Q.E.D. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's CLASSIC!
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things) "You don't know me well enough to diagnose me." - Chris-Kaiser (on the synoptic problem)
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Actually, I am a lot calmer than given credit for, but that doesn't matter. So what if I do get angry? Or use the odd four-letter word? The only troublwe with it, as far as I can see, is that it gives others the excuse they need to derail the argument by sidetracking it onto one about anger instead. But it's rather self-righteously pious to say "Oh you've got angry now so that proves you're wrong". And scientific debate requires an open mind. I have rarely come across so many people with such closed minds as on this forum. An awful lot of people here are intellectual snobs who are so convinced of their own intelligence that they can't conceive that they might have something to learn still. I guess all the adulation they get from being "wow a computer programmer" starts to sink in....
Fred_Smith wrote:
I am a lot calmer than given credit for
I will take your word for that.
Fred_Smith wrote:
scientific debate requires an open mind
And within the debate it also requires scientific substance. And most important of all, the concept of "putting brain into gear before engaging mouth". It is somewhat impossible to both listen and shout at the same time.
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Red wrote: You do realize that you were arguing with a guy who has a PhD in physics, right? Perhaps he just has nothing to learn from you. Fred_Smith wrote: Q.E.D. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's CLASSIC!
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things) "You don't know me well enough to diagnose me." - Chris-Kaiser (on the synoptic problem)
But it does prove the point doesn't it? Someone has a PhD in physics and so they think they have nothing to learn from someone else...? This is a) pretty intellectually snobbish and not very smart in its own right, and b) prety dumb when they don't know what the other person's qualifications are...
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But it does prove the point doesn't it? Someone has a PhD in physics and so they think they have nothing to learn from someone else...? This is a) pretty intellectually snobbish and not very smart in its own right, and b) prety dumb when they don't know what the other person's qualifications are...
Fred_Smith wrote:
But it does prove the point doesn't it? Someone has a PhD in physics and so they think they have nothing to learn from someone else...? This is a) pretty intellectually snobbish and not very smart in its own right, and b) prety dumb when they don't know what the other person's qualifications are...
Oh, I see. This is where I'm supposed to ask you what you do and then you'll answer stating that I forced it out of you; or use some kind of other uninteresting argument; or some other such nonsense. Besides, maybe I'm not a physicist at all. Maybe I'm just a programmer. Maybe I never worked in cancer research and maybe I never undertook any vivisection of animals. Of course maybe I have done all that. Then again, perhaps I'm an animal lover - or perhaps not. You'll never really know. Oooo, I know! I could even be a psychiatrist! But it's not important and neither is what you do. What's important is that you're making an arse of yourself on this message board and it's a rather tiring and predictable routine.
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Fred_Smith wrote:
But it does prove the point doesn't it? Someone has a PhD in physics and so they think they have nothing to learn from someone else...? This is a) pretty intellectually snobbish and not very smart in its own right, and b) prety dumb when they don't know what the other person's qualifications are...
Oh, I see. This is where I'm supposed to ask you what you do and then you'll answer stating that I forced it out of you; or use some kind of other uninteresting argument; or some other such nonsense. Besides, maybe I'm not a physicist at all. Maybe I'm just a programmer. Maybe I never worked in cancer research and maybe I never undertook any vivisection of animals. Of course maybe I have done all that. Then again, perhaps I'm an animal lover - or perhaps not. You'll never really know. Oooo, I know! I could even be a psychiatrist! But it's not important and neither is what you do. What's important is that you're making an arse of yourself on this message board and it's a rather tiring and predictable routine.
73Zeppelin wrote:
This is where I'm supposed to ask you what you do and then you'll answer stating that I forced it out of you;
You've already done that, haven't you? Goaded me into saying what my experiences on a cancer ward were, just so you could use your own daughter's death to top me. That is possibly the sickest thing I have ever experienced on a message board. Physican, heal thyself.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
This is where I'm supposed to ask you what you do and then you'll answer stating that I forced it out of you;
You've already done that, haven't you? Goaded me into saying what my experiences on a cancer ward were, just so you could use your own daughter's death to top me. That is possibly the sickest thing I have ever experienced on a message board. Physican, heal thyself.
Fred_Smith wrote:
You've already done that, haven't you? Goaded me into saying what my experiences on a cancer ward were, just so you could use your own daughter's death to top me. That is possibly the sickest thing I have ever experienced on a message board.
:laugh: Yeah, I was really breaking your arm with that rhetorical question. I'm such a bastard. Anyways, we had this "discussion" already and I have no real interest in communicating with you because, well, it's rather unpleasant and it just feeds your desire to be recognized.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things)
"I misread "on respect for living thigs" as "no respect for living things" I must retract the libel charge. I stand by thr rst though" Fred_Smith (on literacy)
"You don't know me well enough to diagnose me. -
73Zeppelin wrote:
This is where I'm supposed to ask you what you do and then you'll answer stating that I forced it out of you;
You've already done that, haven't you? Goaded me into saying what my experiences on a cancer ward were, just so you could use your own daughter's death to top me. That is possibly the sickest thing I have ever experienced on a message board. Physican, heal thyself.
Fred_Smith wrote:
You've already done that, haven't you? Goaded me into saying what my experiences on a cancer ward were, just so you could use your own daughter's death to top me. That is possibly the sickest thing I have ever experienced on a message board.
That's low...
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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73Zeppelin wrote:
This is where I'm supposed to ask you what you do and then you'll answer stating that I forced it out of you;
You've already done that, haven't you? Goaded me into saying what my experiences on a cancer ward were, just so you could use your own daughter's death to top me. That is possibly the sickest thing I have ever experienced on a message board. Physican, heal thyself.
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Fred_Smith wrote:
You've already done that, haven't you? Goaded me into saying what my experiences on a cancer ward were, just so you could use your own daughter's death to top me. That is possibly the sickest thing I have ever experienced on a message board.
That's low...
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Red Stateler wrote:
That's low...
Doesn't bother me - he's actually lying. I asked him a rhetorical question and then he claimed I somehow "coerced" him via a message board to spit that out. I'm comfortable with the fact that I'm on the side of right here and he's not.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things)
"I misread "on respect for living thigs" as "no respect for living things" I must retract the libel charge. I stand by thr rst though" Fred_Smith (on literacy)
"You don't know me well enough to diagnose me. -
Red Stateler wrote:
That's low...
Doesn't bother me - he's actually lying. I asked him a rhetorical question and then he claimed I somehow "coerced" him via a message board to spit that out. I'm comfortable with the fact that I'm on the side of right here and he's not.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things)
"I misread "on respect for living thigs" as "no respect for living things" I must retract the libel charge. I stand by thr rst though" Fred_Smith (on literacy)
"You don't know me well enough to diagnose me.here's the exact quote from you: "I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die." Perhaps I should put that in my sig....
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This thread is getting out of hand. I have said it already, I'll say it again ... Calm down Fred
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
This thread is getting out of hand.I have said it already, I'll say it again ...Calm down Fred
Doesn't bother me. He can say what he likes even if it is a distortion of the truth. It's just a reflection of his true character.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things)
"I misread "on respect for living thigs" as "no respect for living things" I must retract the libel charge. I stand by thr rst though" Fred_Smith (on literacy)
"You don't know me well enough to diagnose me. -
here's the exact quote from you: "I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die." Perhaps I should put that in my sig....
Fred_Smith wrote:
here's the exact quote from you:"I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die."Perhaps I should put that in my sig....
If you like. That's your decision. I won't stop you.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things)
"I misread "on respect for living thigs" as "no respect for living things" I must retract the libel charge. I stand by thr rst though" Fred_Smith (on literacy)
"You don't know me well enough to diagnose me. -
This thread is getting out of hand. I have said it already, I'll say it again ... Calm down Fred
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Calm down Fred
Why? This time he is being libellous by calling me a liar. I am not distortuing any truth - he twice asked me what expereince I had on a cancer ward, so I told him, and he replied with the following: "I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die." So f*** him No I won't calm down.
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Actually, I am a lot calmer than given credit for, but that doesn't matter. So what if I do get angry? Or use the odd four-letter word? The only troublwe with it, as far as I can see, is that it gives others the excuse they need to derail the argument by sidetracking it onto one about anger instead. But it's rather self-righteously pious to say "Oh you've got angry now so that proves you're wrong". And scientific debate requires an open mind. I have rarely come across so many people with such closed minds as on this forum. An awful lot of people here are intellectual snobs who are so convinced of their own intelligence that they can't conceive that they might have something to learn still. I guess all the adulation they get from being "wow a computer programmer" starts to sink in....
Fred_Smith wrote:
The only troublwe with it, as far as I can see, is that
We are rarely the most qualified to point out our own shortcomings... We tend to be a little biased on the issue. ;)
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Calm down Fred
Why? This time he is being libellous by calling me a liar. I am not distortuing any truth - he twice asked me what expereince I had on a cancer ward, so I told him, and he replied with the following: "I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die." So f*** him No I won't calm down.
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This thread is getting out of hand. I have said it already, I'll say it again ... Calm down Fred
Yeah, it seems that entering a discussion like this is a lot like shaving a ferret. It's long, difficult and ugly, and in the end somebody's gonna get hurt.
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
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Red Stateler wrote:
You do realize that you were arguing with a guy who has a PhD in physics, right? Perhaps he just has nothing to learn from you.
Actually, I'm a psychiatrist. I just diagnosed Chris-Kaiser with the synoptic problem! He wasn't very happy about that, though... poor fellow took it rather hard.
"sh*thead ... f*** off and die" "Keep my words on your sig. I stand by them. (Which, incidently, doesn't make me a sociopath - it's personal.)" - Fred_Smith (on respect for living things)
"You don't know me well enough to diagnose me." - Chris-Kaiser (on the synoptic problem)Haha.. classic. You are a bit on the pompous side now aren't you? (That's also rhetorical by the way.) Do you need to dismiss others out of hand and demean them to feel better about yourself? True, I don't know what the synoptic problem is. But you did assume that I'm a bible thumper. And I bet you'll interpret this as me taking it hard... :laugh:
This statement was never false.