Free Birth Control for 11-Year Olds
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After an outbreak of pregnancies among middle school girls, education officials in
this city have decided to allow a school health center to make birth control pills
available to girls as young as 11.
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Students need parental permission to access the school's health center. But treatment
is confidential under state law, which allows the students to decide whether to inform
their parents about the services they receive.So how do you solve a rampant teenage out-of-wedlock birthrate? Give already irresponsible teenagers an excuse to have more sex!
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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They have done studies and found out that schools that preach abstinence only have a higher rate of oral sex among students because they don't consider actual sex.
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leckey wrote:
They have done studies and found out that schools that preach abstinence only have a higher rate of oral sex among students because they don't consider actual sex.
However, the amount of actual teenage sex has greatly increased or, at a minimum, the recognition of the institution of marriage as a necessity for a healthy family has greatly decreased over the years. Out-of-wedlock birth rates are twice what they were 25 years ago. No health class has the power to undue a vast and unfortunate cultural trend.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Obviously the kids are sexually mature, they wouldnt be having kids else, so, well, just give them the damn condoms and info on how to use them. Better than having it underground.
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fat_boy wrote:
Obviously the kids are sexually mature, they wouldnt be having kids else, so, well, just give them the damn condoms and info on how to use them.
Sexually mature does not denote the necessity of sexual activity. It's rather appalling for an authority figure to send a message to an 11-year old that it's OK to have sex by providing birth control. Even if you get past the perverted notion of 11-year olds having sex, one can rest assured that they won't correctly use the provided birth control...Because they're 11.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Just because consenting adults do not choose to acquire that piece of paper (the marriage certificate) does not mean that the adults who form that relationship are not as capable of enjoying a solid family experience as those who do marry. Out-of-wedlock births is a red herring in today's world.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Just because consenting adults do not choose to acquire that piece of paper (the marriage certificate) does not mean that the adults who form that relationship are not as capable of enjoying a solid family experience as those who do marry. Out-of-wedlock births is a red herring in today's world.
Marriage is much more than a "piece of paper". It's a lifelong commitment (that is now widely disregarded) that, if practiced according to the terms of that "piece of paper" yields a much more stable home environment for both the children and parents. What's sad is that single parents who argue in favor of single parenting selfishly disregard the needs of their children.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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After an outbreak of pregnancies among middle school girls, education officials in
this city have decided to allow a school health center to make birth control pills
available to girls as young as 11.
...
Students need parental permission to access the school's health center. But treatment
is confidential under state law, which allows the students to decide whether to inform
their parents about the services they receive.So how do you solve a rampant teenage out-of-wedlock birthrate? Give already irresponsible teenagers an excuse to have more sex!
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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After an outbreak of pregnancies among middle school girls, education officials in
this city have decided to allow a school health center to make birth control pills
available to girls as young as 11.
...
Students need parental permission to access the school's health center. But treatment
is confidential under state law, which allows the students to decide whether to inform
their parents about the services they receive.So how do you solve a rampant teenage out-of-wedlock birthrate? Give already irresponsible teenagers an excuse to have more sex!
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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led mike wrote:
And your alternative suggested solution is?
Eliminate the concepts of feminism and "free love", which provide an avenue for socially acceptable promiscuity and out-of-wedlock births. Unforunately, these cases are the result of cultural shifts and are not easily changed.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Obviously the kids are sexually mature, they wouldnt be having kids else, so, well, just give them the damn condoms and info on how to use them. Better than having it underground.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
The saying "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" is very relevant. They may well be sexually mature, but they are not emotionally mature, and they certainly don't have the necessary parenting skills. Just give to each and every teenager (boy and girl) one of those forever crying toy babies. They will very soon decide not to go along the route to teenage pregnancy as this doll will definitely need to be pacified several times during the night. They will soon realize that this is no joke. And parents must make sure that the teenage child gets the message this doll is giving them.
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led mike wrote:
And your alternative suggested solution is?
Eliminate the concepts of feminism and "free love", which provide an avenue for socially acceptable promiscuity and out-of-wedlock births. Unforunately, these cases are the result of cultural shifts and are not easily changed.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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They should get lessons in oral sex. It's tough getting pregnant from that, too. :)
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Although that would work in the short term, in the long term, it would prove problematic. Every 11 year old girl would want lip implants to match Angelina Jolie's or Pamela Anderson. :) Then we start a trend of plastic surgery at 11. No thanks. I say we bring back discipline. Spanking is good for the soul.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Just because consenting adults do not choose to acquire that piece of paper (the marriage certificate) does not mean that the adults who form that relationship are not as capable of enjoying a solid family experience as those who do marry. Out-of-wedlock births is a red herring in today's world.
Marriage is much more than a "piece of paper". It's a lifelong commitment (that is now widely disregarded) that, if practiced according to the terms of that "piece of paper" yields a much more stable home environment for both the children and parents. What's sad is that single parents who argue in favor of single parenting selfishly disregard the needs of their children.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
I made no mention of single parenting. That piece of paper traditionally meant "lifelong commitment". But with 2 out of every 3 marriages failing, lifelong commitment is almost as extinct as the Tyrannosaurus Rex. So a reasonable question could be "Well why bother?"
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So you don't have an alternate solution and yet you feel it's appropriate to attack this one and those who implemented it. Is that how it works? Really? What do you think your hero of yesterday, Emmanuel Kant, would think of that?
Why should I propose a solution. Liberalism led to this mess. You fix it.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Is this the BBC Report you were talking about [^] I don't see any reference to 25% but that link is 2 years old. Maybe you seen something more recent. Your last paragraph, frankly, is, I feel, irrelevant. Poor parenting and poor choice of role models, plus peer pressure from their friends, I fear is the real reason for these teenage promiscuities.
No I was talking about a Radio 4 report just in the last few days. My last paragrah was in reponse the post I was tying to reply to which questioned how the 25% figure related to the religious stats for the population. My post may have suffered from the forum post displacement bug like my previosu reply to Zep on this thread. It must be picking on me today.:)
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
not talking about unwed, im fine with that
You're OK with out-of-wedlock births? :~
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
sure, adult out of wedlock births. my parents had me 2 years before marrying. and there are plenty of unwed families, that either end in marriage or not, who have strong families...
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
come on girl, you're in america, you should know that as soon as a child has a bruise or there is any hint of abuse child protective services are called, hell if a parent disciplines their child in public they have the same thing happen to them...
That is not every part of the United States. Yes, there are the hyper-vigilantes, but what if the parent is leaving bruises not seen to the general public? I hate to break this to you, but child abuse does happen. In 1995 in the US almost 2/3 of suspected child abuse was reported by professionals - not parents. Look at the case of the girl in Nevada that had the tape shown on cable news TV. Her own mother did not know about the abuse. Abusers know how to brainwash kids to deny and know how to cover their tracks.
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leckey wrote:
I hate to break this to you, but child abuse does happen
of course it does, but an 11 year old should not be making her own medical decisions before she can long divide fractions...
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I made no mention of single parenting. That piece of paper traditionally meant "lifelong commitment". But with 2 out of every 3 marriages failing, lifelong commitment is almost as extinct as the Tyrannosaurus Rex. So a reasonable question could be "Well why bother?"
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
I made no mention of single parenting. That piece of paper traditionally meant "lifelong commitment". But with 2 out of every 3 marriages failing, lifelong commitment is almost as extinct as the Tyrannosaurus Rex. So a reasonable question could be "Well why bother?"
That's true. But note that you did say that the lack of marriage "does not mean that the adults who form that relationship are not as capable of enjoying a solid family experience as those who do marry". And yet you say that lifelong commitment is extinct. So how can a child-bearing relationship that does not entail a lifelong commitment (i.e. the family will likely be disrupted during the child's development) yield as solid a family experience as those that do marry?
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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sure, adult out of wedlock births. my parents had me 2 years before marrying. and there are plenty of unwed families, that either end in marriage or not, who have strong families...
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
surethere are plenty of unwed families, that either end in marriage or not, who have strong families...
That is most certainly a fantasy.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
surethere are plenty of unwed families, that either end in marriage or not, who have strong families...
That is most certainly a fantasy.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
so, an unwed man and woman, cohabitating, cannot raise a healthy productive child?
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so, an unwed man and woman, cohabitating, cannot raise a healthy productive child?
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They certainly can, they're just less likely to do so than a married couple. Not a critisism, merely a widely reported statistic.
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They have done studies and found out that schools that preach abstinence only have a higher rate of oral sex among students because they don't consider actual sex.
Hey! I finally found a picture of myself!
i wish they had taught abstinence at my schools...
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