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Judah Himango wrote:
Huh? I don't think that's a Christian thing, Vunic. The Christians I know of look at werewolves, vamps, and that kind of thing as scary movie material, not reality.
But in old scriptupres dont we see sainthoods holding a cross against a werewolf? or I saw them in vanhelsing:) lol. But I think Christianity has some reference to few satanic creatures. That's there in the Bible as explained in wiki. My concept is this. Anything starting with "Sa,Si" might be refering to number 6. Six.. Soixante..(fr) A number 6 simply can't be a bad one, so it's property could be refered from Saturn. The controvery planet.
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You saw it in Van Helsing. Ahhh...good old Hollywood shaping our view of the world. :) For what it's worth, there's nothing in Christian Scripture (or Jewish Scripture, for that matter) about werewolves, nor anything about holding a cross against something to kill it, like you saw in Van Helsing. (The concept of having little crosses as jewelry, pendants, or charms is also a relatively modern invention. Wearing a cross around your neck would be really strange to folks in Jesus' time; it'd be akin to wearing an electric chair or guillotine around your neck today.)
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Andy Brummer wrote:
Also, saturn[^] probably has nothing to do with satan.
Even after seeing this you believe there's no link between saturn and Satan?[^] hehe :-D
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Will read it tomorrow and reply you dude. The planet earth has spinned to it's darker side here making my eyes close automatically. Now you see the control a planet has over an individual? lol just feeling sleepy! will catcha all tomorrow. goodnight.
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VuNic wrote:
In your case, I think both Satan and Saturn are involved
Nonsense. I bit my tongue when Mt Ararat was taught to be the highest mountain in the middle east. When asked why the school book said another mountain the teacher defended that "it is a volcano, Ararat is a mountain" I again said nothing because Ararat is a volcano too. Surely I earned some "wings" for keeping my mouth shut. :) Only Saturn has influence on me... it's those sexy rings.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The word might have evolved from "Saturn" ? the 6th planet? I don’t think the point is just with the number but the planet. The planet Saturn, by our religion, is believed to cast it's mischievous/troubling/terrifying actives on a person. If a person undergoes a bad, traumatic time they call it like "Saturn has taken the orbit for him" something very similar to that. But the catch is this, in our language we have a common word for both "Saturn" and the "Satan". Imagine calling the planet Saturn as "Satan". Both sharing the same word. The planets may actually have an impact on people or anything on earth. Most of us would think that these planetary control thingie is ridiculous but we may have to believe it soon. Because, even the moon control the tides, the ocean->a liquid, a thing in the same state inside our brain controls our stability. And so schizophrenic patients go mad2 on these moon-controlled days-> Full moon day and new moon day. And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon. I believe these werewolves are simple schizophrenic people getting into their m-square state. And in our religion, when a person is currently caught up on a satanic-window, he's asked to go round the temple n times that could be to nullify the centripetal/fugal force ot the saturn. What a research in two minutes before I go to sleep. WOW. Ok, many would hate this theory and few may support it. We need a way to let you express your opinion and how much my point is accepted. Yes!! We have this voting system. That's nice . ok Anybody who supports this vote 5. And anybody who thinks it's a crap vote 5. good night! Updates![^] r6gads, Vunic.:-D
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VuNic wrote:
The word might have evolved from "Saturn"
"Satan" is named in the Bible as one of the devil's name. The name ist Hebrew. OTOH Saturn is the Roman god of Time, taken from Greek's Cronos.
VuNic wrote:
And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon.
I think that someone here is willing to write the script for "What the #@$%&! you know 3". :laugh:;P:)
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VuNic wrote:
A number 6 simply can't be a bad one, so it's property could be refered from Saturn. The controvery planet.
That stretch was so hard that Gumby broke.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I'll take it as this weekend's weekend-spoiler, make a research and make the stretch so meaningful. :cool:
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You saw it in Van Helsing. Ahhh...good old Hollywood shaping our view of the world. :) For what it's worth, there's nothing in Christian Scripture (or Jewish Scripture, for that matter) about werewolves, nor anything about holding a cross against something to kill it, like you saw in Van Helsing. (The concept of having little crosses as jewelry, pendants, or charms is also a relatively modern invention. Wearing a cross around your neck would be really strange to folks in Jesus' time; it'd be akin to wearing an electric chair or guillotine around your neck today.)
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Judah Himango wrote:
or guillotine
mine looks very attractive, thank you. Very handy for trimming carrots too!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Judah Himango wrote:
or guillotine
mine looks very attractive, thank you. Very handy for trimming carrots too!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
:laugh:
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The word might have evolved from "Saturn" ? the 6th planet? I don’t think the point is just with the number but the planet. The planet Saturn, by our religion, is believed to cast it's mischievous/troubling/terrifying actives on a person. If a person undergoes a bad, traumatic time they call it like "Saturn has taken the orbit for him" something very similar to that. But the catch is this, in our language we have a common word for both "Saturn" and the "Satan". Imagine calling the planet Saturn as "Satan". Both sharing the same word. The planets may actually have an impact on people or anything on earth. Most of us would think that these planetary control thingie is ridiculous but we may have to believe it soon. Because, even the moon control the tides, the ocean->a liquid, a thing in the same state inside our brain controls our stability. And so schizophrenic patients go mad2 on these moon-controlled days-> Full moon day and new moon day. And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon. I believe these werewolves are simple schizophrenic people getting into their m-square state. And in our religion, when a person is currently caught up on a satanic-window, he's asked to go round the temple n times that could be to nullify the centripetal/fugal force ot the saturn. What a research in two minutes before I go to sleep. WOW. Ok, many would hate this theory and few may support it. We need a way to let you express your opinion and how much my point is accepted. Yes!! We have this voting system. That's nice . ok Anybody who supports this vote 5. And anybody who thinks it's a crap vote 5. good night! Updates![^] r6gads, Vunic.:-D
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The word might have evolved from "Saturn" ? the 6th planet? I don’t think the point is just with the number but the planet. The planet Saturn, by our religion, is believed to cast it's mischievous/troubling/terrifying actives on a person. If a person undergoes a bad, traumatic time they call it like "Saturn has taken the orbit for him" something very similar to that. But the catch is this, in our language we have a common word for both "Saturn" and the "Satan". Imagine calling the planet Saturn as "Satan". Both sharing the same word. The planets may actually have an impact on people or anything on earth. Most of us would think that these planetary control thingie is ridiculous but we may have to believe it soon. Because, even the moon control the tides, the ocean->a liquid, a thing in the same state inside our brain controls our stability. And so schizophrenic patients go mad2 on these moon-controlled days-> Full moon day and new moon day. And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon. I believe these werewolves are simple schizophrenic people getting into their m-square state. And in our religion, when a person is currently caught up on a satanic-window, he's asked to go round the temple n times that could be to nullify the centripetal/fugal force ot the saturn. What a research in two minutes before I go to sleep. WOW. Ok, many would hate this theory and few may support it. We need a way to let you express your opinion and how much my point is accepted. Yes!! We have this voting system. That's nice . ok Anybody who supports this vote 5. And anybody who thinks it's a crap vote 5. good night! Updates![^] r6gads, Vunic.:-D
Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]
Bad news for you mate, but Satan comes from the term meaning adversary. The symbol for satan (in the ancient hebrew) is the symbol for adversary.
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The word might have evolved from "Saturn" ? the 6th planet? I don’t think the point is just with the number but the planet. The planet Saturn, by our religion, is believed to cast it's mischievous/troubling/terrifying actives on a person. If a person undergoes a bad, traumatic time they call it like "Saturn has taken the orbit for him" something very similar to that. But the catch is this, in our language we have a common word for both "Saturn" and the "Satan". Imagine calling the planet Saturn as "Satan". Both sharing the same word. The planets may actually have an impact on people or anything on earth. Most of us would think that these planetary control thingie is ridiculous but we may have to believe it soon. Because, even the moon control the tides, the ocean->a liquid, a thing in the same state inside our brain controls our stability. And so schizophrenic patients go mad2 on these moon-controlled days-> Full moon day and new moon day. And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon. I believe these werewolves are simple schizophrenic people getting into their m-square state. And in our religion, when a person is currently caught up on a satanic-window, he's asked to go round the temple n times that could be to nullify the centripetal/fugal force ot the saturn. What a research in two minutes before I go to sleep. WOW. Ok, many would hate this theory and few may support it. We need a way to let you express your opinion and how much my point is accepted. Yes!! We have this voting system. That's nice . ok Anybody who supports this vote 5. And anybody who thinks it's a crap vote 5. good night! Updates![^] r6gads, Vunic.:-D
Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]
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Bad news for you mate, but Satan comes from the term meaning adversary. The symbol for satan (in the ancient hebrew) is the symbol for adversary.
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As someone who can speak a tad of Hebrew, I'm pretty sure that's not quite right. In Hebrew, it's HaSatan: Ha = The, Satan = "Accuser". In Hebrew, Satan is made up from 3 Hebrew letters with vowel markings, not a single symbol. Anyways, don't mean to nitpick, just mentioning it in passing.
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As someone who can speak a tad of Hebrew, I'm pretty sure that's not quite right. In Hebrew, it's HaSatan: Ha = The, Satan = "Accuser". In Hebrew, Satan is made up from 3 Hebrew letters with vowel markings, not a single symbol. Anyways, don't mean to nitpick, just mentioning it in passing.
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Note that I said ancient hebrew.
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The word might have evolved from "Saturn" ? the 6th planet? I don’t think the point is just with the number but the planet. The planet Saturn, by our religion, is believed to cast it's mischievous/troubling/terrifying actives on a person. If a person undergoes a bad, traumatic time they call it like "Saturn has taken the orbit for him" something very similar to that. But the catch is this, in our language we have a common word for both "Saturn" and the "Satan". Imagine calling the planet Saturn as "Satan". Both sharing the same word. The planets may actually have an impact on people or anything on earth. Most of us would think that these planetary control thingie is ridiculous but we may have to believe it soon. Because, even the moon control the tides, the ocean->a liquid, a thing in the same state inside our brain controls our stability. And so schizophrenic patients go mad2 on these moon-controlled days-> Full moon day and new moon day. And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon. I believe these werewolves are simple schizophrenic people getting into their m-square state. And in our religion, when a person is currently caught up on a satanic-window, he's asked to go round the temple n times that could be to nullify the centripetal/fugal force ot the saturn. What a research in two minutes before I go to sleep. WOW. Ok, many would hate this theory and few may support it. We need a way to let you express your opinion and how much my point is accepted. Yes!! We have this voting system. That's nice . ok Anybody who supports this vote 5. And anybody who thinks it's a crap vote 5. good night! Updates![^] r6gads, Vunic.:-D
Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]
VuNic wrote:
And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon.
:confused: What on earth has Christianity got to do with werewolves, vampires and the moon? Go look up Paganism. That thing Christians tried to stamp out.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Note that I said ancient hebrew.
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Right. Ancient Hebrew doesn't have vowel markings like modern Hebrew, and some phrases and word meanings have changed, but it's still readable if you read modern Hebrew. In short, I think what I said before still holds. It's interesting though. I'll check with my Hebrew expert brother tonight and let you know. :)
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VuNic wrote:
And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon.
:confused: What on earth has Christianity got to do with werewolves, vampires and the moon? Go look up Paganism. That thing Christians tried to stamp out.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Christianity took alot of concepts from paganism - December 25th, for example. Tales of resurrection of saviors and great floods also came from pagan religions. As for werewolves, vampires - you are probably right - they have little to do with Christianity. The moon, on the other hand, contributed to the instantiation of the Christian calendar.
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Right. Ancient Hebrew doesn't have vowel markings like modern Hebrew, and some phrases and word meanings have changed, but it's still readable if you read modern Hebrew. In short, I think what I said before still holds. It's interesting though. I'll check with my Hebrew expert brother tonight and let you know. :)
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Judah Himango wrote:
or guillotine
mine looks very attractive, thank you. Very handy for trimming carrots too!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
Very handy for trimming carrots too!
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The word might have evolved from "Saturn" ? the 6th planet? I don’t think the point is just with the number but the planet. The planet Saturn, by our religion, is believed to cast it's mischievous/troubling/terrifying actives on a person. If a person undergoes a bad, traumatic time they call it like "Saturn has taken the orbit for him" something very similar to that. But the catch is this, in our language we have a common word for both "Saturn" and the "Satan". Imagine calling the planet Saturn as "Satan". Both sharing the same word. The planets may actually have an impact on people or anything on earth. Most of us would think that these planetary control thingie is ridiculous but we may have to believe it soon. Because, even the moon control the tides, the ocean->a liquid, a thing in the same state inside our brain controls our stability. And so schizophrenic patients go mad2 on these moon-controlled days-> Full moon day and new moon day. And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon. I believe these werewolves are simple schizophrenic people getting into their m-square state. And in our religion, when a person is currently caught up on a satanic-window, he's asked to go round the temple n times that could be to nullify the centripetal/fugal force ot the saturn. What a research in two minutes before I go to sleep. WOW. Ok, many would hate this theory and few may support it. We need a way to let you express your opinion and how much my point is accepted. Yes!! We have this voting system. That's nice . ok Anybody who supports this vote 5. And anybody who thinks it's a crap vote 5. good night! Updates![^] r6gads, Vunic.:-D
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Utter crap. If it was even remotely political, I'd assume you got it from one of the tin-foil hat wearing kool-aid drinking conspiracy theory blogs. The etymology of the word I can't really speak on, but the rest of the theory that 'ties' it all together is way out there. With one possible exception... The brain is a very delicate balancing act between chemicals, water and electricity. It wouldn't surprise me if they found that gravity exerted from extraterrestrial bodies had some effect, though I don't know that there is currently knowledge of any such relationship. Ever wonder why you feel extra crappy in the evening when you have a cold? But to say the moon controls the tides is an understatement. Every single particle of matter in the entire universe affects every other particle in the entire universe gravitationally. But if I were to worry about the gravitational effects of anything in our solar system, it would be Jupiter not Saturn. It's closer, heavier, and has the strongest electromagnetic field. So strong in fact that you can catch it on your radio under the right circumstances.
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VuNic wrote:
And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon.
:confused: What on earth has Christianity got to do with werewolves, vampires and the moon? Go look up Paganism. That thing Christians tried to stamp out.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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VuNic wrote:
And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon.
:confused: What on earth has Christianity got to do with werewolves, vampires and the moon? Go look up Paganism. That thing Christians tried to stamp out.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
The power of transforming others into wild beasts was attributed not only to malignant sorcerers, but to Christian saints as well. Omnes angeli, boni et Mali, ex virtute naturali habent potestatem transmutandi corpora nostra ("All angels, good and bad have the power of transmutating our bodies") was the dictum of St. Thomas Aquinas. St. Patrick was said to have transformed the Welsh king Vereticus into a wolf; St. Natalis supposedly cursed an illustrious Irish family whose members were each doomed to be a wolf for seven years. In other tales the divine agency is even more direct, while in Russia, again, men are supposedly become werewolves when incurring the wrath of the Devil. [^] Some more text from wiki: A distinction is often made between voluntary and involuntary werewolves. The former are generally thought to have made a pact, usually with the Devil, and morph into werewolves at night to indulge in mischievous acts. Involuntary werewolves, on the other hand, are werewolves by an accident of birth or health. In some cultures, individuals born during a new moon or suffering from epilepsy were considered likely to be werewolves. Unlike vampires, werewolves are not harmed by religious artifacts such as crucifixes and holy water. This is funny btw: According to Russian lore, a child born on December 24 shall be a werewolf. So simple!^^:laugh:
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