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    Colin Davies wrote: We should restrict the importation of software, and use our own home grown OS 'GRASS'. That sounds like an excellent idea. I've known a few CS students who have experimented with beta versions of this OS, and they report amazing capabilities, especially in multimedia and culinary applications. If you take this track, NZ may someday lead the world in software exports. --------

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    I have a beta version running on an old P1 for 2 months and have never had to reboot or had a crash etc. Although it is a superior OS in many ways, its main problem will be in the Marketing. Its unlikely that they will be able to attract enough financial capital to really launch it properly. What I really I enjoy about it is how you can do priority tasking. And also how all the Office data types import effortlessly to it. Regardz Colin J Davies

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      So, you admit that NZ places no barriers on importing software, and in fact imports software from MS and Oracle, two very large software companies, both producing heavily pirated software. And yet does *not* have rampant piracy occurring? I find that hard to believe. Perhaps it is a government-funded operation, carefully hidden from MS's spies. Or perhaps (*shudder*) MS operatives have been corrupted by the exotic local females, and have now become complacent. I grow cold thinking of the harm this could cause. :~ --------

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      Shog9 wrote: exotic local females Where can I get one of those? Are there any rules against exporting them? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!

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        Shog9 wrote: exotic local females Where can I get one of those? Are there any rules against exporting them? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!

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        Roger Wright wrote: Where can I get one of those? Are there any rules against exporting them? Ok Roger this is the core of the issue, Any females of the non avian or reptile variety are free of any export restrictions from here. But you folks stop the containers examine it and at time reject them for silly reasons, if they are allowed to pass a silly tax is placed on them. Regardz Colin J Davies

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          Shog9 wrote: But the fact remains, New Zealanders are not Americans, and therefore are Pirates. That logic befuddles me. Does the US not respect other nations Sovereignties . The incidence of software Piracy here is lower than in the US I believe. MS and Oracle etc have offices here and SELL plenty of packages and then repatriate the profits to there parent companies in the USA. MS has often held NZ up as an ideal for integrating there stuff into contemporary society. Are you suggesting we stop purchasing from MS, and become a Linux State like Pakistan and Peru ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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          Colin Davies wrote: Are you suggesting we stop purchasing from MS, and become a Linux State like Pakistan and Peru ? Sounds like a good idea to me. :-D Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat.

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            I thought it better for CP to drag the Tariffs debate here into the SoapBox so we can turn it into a proper decent sized flame war. NZ has frozen all Tariffs for almost 3 years The current tariff freeze of tariffs at the July 1999 rates, ends on 1 July 2005." Warning: Prisoners will only be taken after ignition. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            I'm American, and I'm against tariffs. Why? They're just another tax. They raise prices. I think American businesses of all types should be supported because they produce better products, or at lower prices, not simply because they are American. I really don't see how tariffs will have much of any effect on piracy. If piracy abroad is *really* costing software companies so much money, then why are they exporting their software at all? Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat.

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              I'm American, and I'm against tariffs. Why? They're just another tax. They raise prices. I think American businesses of all types should be supported because they produce better products, or at lower prices, not simply because they are American. I really don't see how tariffs will have much of any effect on piracy. If piracy abroad is *really* costing software companies so much money, then why are they exporting their software at all? Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat.

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              My issue with the US and tariffs is simple, "stop trying to convert feeble govts like mine to do something that they themselves won't do." Navin wrote: I think American businesses of all types should be supported because they produce better products, or at lower prices, not simply because they are American. Yes that would allow Capitalism to take care of your Economy. At the moment the US is in danger of supporting industries that will never be Internationally competitive. For Example the steel industry tariffs could mean that all US products will increase in price due to the protectionism. An economy really is best either open or closed but not in a state inbetween. Navin wrote: really don't see how tariffs will have much of any effect on piracy. Nor do I, Piracy is only another name for theft, and I still believe software pirates/thiefs should have their mouse hand removed. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                Roger Wright wrote: Where can I get one of those? Are there any rules against exporting them? Ok Roger this is the core of the issue, Any females of the non avian or reptile variety are free of any export restrictions from here. But you folks stop the containers examine it and at time reject them for silly reasons, if they are allowed to pass a silly tax is placed on them. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                Colin Davies wrote: a silly tax is placed on them. Frightfully short-sighted of us, isn't it. Very well, then, can't be helped I guess. Pick me out a likely lass, bag her and ship her - I'll pay the tax. And let me know your fee right away. You folks do still prefer to trade in knives and colorful glass beads, don't you? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!

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                  Colin Davies wrote: a silly tax is placed on them. Frightfully short-sighted of us, isn't it. Very well, then, can't be helped I guess. Pick me out a likely lass, bag her and ship her - I'll pay the tax. And let me know your fee right away. You folks do still prefer to trade in knives and colorful glass beads, don't you? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!

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                  Roger Wright wrote: You folks do still prefer to trade in knives and colorful glass beads, don't you? Axe-heads are good, and with winter coming on blankets are a popular trade item. If you are in a rush, I'll pack her into one of those little DHL envelopes, and all you have to do is inflate before using. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                    Roger Wright wrote: You folks do still prefer to trade in knives and colorful glass beads, don't you? Axe-heads are good, and with winter coming on blankets are a popular trade item. If you are in a rush, I'll pack her into one of those little DHL envelopes, and all you have to do is inflate before using. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                    Colin Davies wrote: I'll pack her into one of those little DHL envelopes Sounds good to me - I'll be watching the mailbox. I can get you a special deal on Navaho blankets, too:-) I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!

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                      Colin Davies wrote: I'll pack her into one of those little DHL envelopes Sounds good to me - I'll be watching the mailbox. I can get you a special deal on Navaho blankets, too:-) I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!

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                      Roger Wright wrote: I can get you a special deal on Navaho blankets, too Excellent they'll be a big hit. Regardz Colin J Davies

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