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  • A ahmed mega

    we are agroup in agraduation project want to do an application to make calls to mobile phones using voip . do we need anecessary network device or asoftware for segmenting voice packages? -- modified at 22:18 Sunday 4th November, 2007

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    ahmed mega wrote:

    we are agroup in agraduation project

    You should be asking your instructor. He or she shouldn't mind giving you suggestions as to where to look.

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      ahmed mega wrote:

      we are agroup in agraduation project

      You should be asking your instructor. He or she shouldn't mind giving you suggestions as to where to look.

      "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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      CataclysmicQuantum
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      Paul Conrad wrote:

      You should be asking your instructor. He or she shouldn't mind giving you suggestions as to where to look.

      His instructor shouldn't have a monopoly over his knowledge. Anyone can learn from any source. You might say he could be trying to cheat, he is suppose to figure this out on his own. Well he is figuring this out on his own, he is using the internet to gain valuable information that he needs. It doesn't make any difference where he gets his information.

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      • A ahmed mega

        we are agroup in agraduation project want to do an application to make calls to mobile phones using voip . do we need anecessary network device or asoftware for segmenting voice packages? -- modified at 22:18 Sunday 4th November, 2007

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        You will need a call control stack to do the call setup and tear-down and then a voice (RTP) stack to send a receive audio. I would suggest using SIP for the call control stuff since is is a more popular standard that H.323 used to be and is more widely used now by most vendors. Depending on what your host platform target is you might want to consider trying the Microsoft Real Time Communication (RTC) API. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457036.aspx[^]


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          Paul Conrad wrote:

          You should be asking your instructor. He or she shouldn't mind giving you suggestions as to where to look.

          His instructor shouldn't have a monopoly over his knowledge. Anyone can learn from any source. You might say he could be trying to cheat, he is suppose to figure this out on his own. Well he is figuring this out on his own, he is using the internet to gain valuable information that he needs. It doesn't make any difference where he gets his information.

          46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is not a secret message, if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

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          CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

          he is using the internet to gain valuable information that he needs

          I agree. Use it as a powerful research tool, but not for cheating (which I have not implied that he is doing).

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            Paul Conrad wrote:

            You should be asking your instructor. He or she shouldn't mind giving you suggestions as to where to look.

            His instructor shouldn't have a monopoly over his knowledge. Anyone can learn from any source. You might say he could be trying to cheat, he is suppose to figure this out on his own. Well he is figuring this out on his own, he is using the internet to gain valuable information that he needs. It doesn't make any difference where he gets his information.

            46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is not a secret message, if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

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            CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

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            Yeah, really mature there...


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              CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

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              Yeah, really mature there...


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              Yep.

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                CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

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                Yeah, really mature there...


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                CataclysmicQuantum
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                Ray Cassick wrote:

                Yeah, really mature there...

                Yeah...If it wasn't for my maturity I wouldn't have encoded it.

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                • R Ray Cassick

                  You will need a call control stack to do the call setup and tear-down and then a voice (RTP) stack to send a receive audio. I would suggest using SIP for the call control stuff since is is a more popular standard that H.323 used to be and is more widely used now by most vendors. Depending on what your host platform target is you might want to consider trying the Microsoft Real Time Communication (RTC) API. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457036.aspx[^]


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                  ahmed mega
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                  i heared about it . but, do you mean that sip need no devices .

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                    Ray Cassick wrote:

                    Yeah, really mature there...

                    Yeah...If it wasn't for my maturity I wouldn't have encoded it.

                    46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is not a secret message, if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

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                    Ray Cassick
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                    But then you go on to say this...

                    CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

                    if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

                    If you are going to attack someone in an open forum (and Kyle has needed attacking form time to time - don't get me wrong there) the at least have the cajones to do it openly and take 'credit' for it... Interesting way to post a message though... Might make a neat add-in for IE :)


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                    • A ahmed mega

                      i heared about it . but, do you mean that sip need no devices .

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                      If you are doing pure VoIP then all you need is your network interface. The only time you really need 'things' is when you want to cross domains into the TDM (circuit switched world) like the PSTN. Then you need gateways (what I do for a living). Other times might be if you need to change call control protocols (conversion gateways) or change voice protocols (transcoding gateways) or things like that.


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                        If you are doing pure VoIP then all you need is your network interface. The only time you really need 'things' is when you want to cross domains into the TDM (circuit switched world) like the PSTN. Then you need gateways (what I do for a living). Other times might be if you need to change call control protocols (conversion gateways) or change voice protocols (transcoding gateways) or things like that.


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                        ahmed mega
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                        ok i got it thank you for your reply ,and i appreciate it for all of you

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                        • R Ray Cassick

                          But then you go on to say this...

                          CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

                          if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

                          If you are going to attack someone in an open forum (and Kyle has needed attacking form time to time - don't get me wrong there) the at least have the cajones to do it openly and take 'credit' for it... Interesting way to post a message though... Might make a neat add-in for IE :)


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                          CataclysmicQuantum
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                          Ray Cassick wrote:

                          have the cajones to do it openly and take 'credit' for it...

                          The disclaimer makes people more curious and more likely to try and figure out what it says. If I didn't have any balls I wouldn't have used it as my sig. I knew that I would get shit over it but oh well, I'm not going to submit to everyone else and act all nice and not use profanity and shit because thats just who I am, a fowl mouth ill tempered 20 year old. If you don't like me, then don't talk to me.

                          46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is not a secret message, if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

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                            Paul Conrad wrote:

                            You should be asking your instructor. He or she shouldn't mind giving you suggestions as to where to look.

                            His instructor shouldn't have a monopoly over his knowledge. Anyone can learn from any source. You might say he could be trying to cheat, he is suppose to figure this out on his own. Well he is figuring this out on his own, he is using the internet to gain valuable information that he needs. It doesn't make any difference where he gets his information.

                            46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is not a secret message, if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

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                            Demon Possessed
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                            Hey everyone go to http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/encrypter/index.php and decode his signature. He is my secret admirer.

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                              Hey everyone go to http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/encrypter/index.php and decode his signature. He is my secret admirer.

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                              Demon Possessed wrote:

                              He is my secret admirer.

                              That's old news. From a couple hours ago, at least.

                              "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                Demon Possessed wrote:

                                He is my secret admirer.

                                That's old news. From a couple hours ago, at least.

                                "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                Yes, in the soapbox.

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                                  Yes, in the soapbox.

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                                  I feel the Soapbox is kind of like those Las Vegas commercials where "What goes on in Vegas, stays in Vegas" :rolleyes: Just replace Vegas with Soapbox.

                                  "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                    I feel the Soapbox is kind of like those Las Vegas commercials where "What goes on in Vegas, stays in Vegas" :rolleyes: Just replace Vegas with Soapbox.

                                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                    Demon Possessed
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                                    Yes, but his signature has found it's way into the lounge, and people here might not realize what a pathetic turd he is.

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                                      Hey everyone go to http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/encrypter/index.php and decode his signature. He is my secret admirer.

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                                      CataclysmicQuantum
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                                      When someone says "Fuck you" they are telling you to go fuck yourself. Your delusional thoughts about me being a homosexual and your admirer is absolute garbage.

                                      46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is not a secret message, if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

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                                        When someone says "Fuck you" they are telling you to go fuck yourself. Your delusional thoughts about me being a homosexual and your admirer is absolute garbage.

                                        46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is not a secret message, if it actually says anything when manipulated, it is not my fault and I am not responsible for what it may say.

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                                        Demon Possessed
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                                        You put me in your signature. How much more obsessed can it get? :zzz:

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                                          You put me in your signature. How much more obsessed can it get? :zzz:

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                                          Guys, you are getting *little* off-topic... :|


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