The Creation Museum
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The mad thing about creationists is that they know nothing about the history of the bible. Ask them who wrote the first five books, and they'll tell you God. Ask them who put God's words to paper and they'll look at you blankly.
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
Didn't Moses write the Pentateuch, or at least, isn't he credited with doing so ? But yeah, you're probably right, most of the time.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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Didn't Moses write the Pentateuch, or at least, isn't he credited with doing so ? But yeah, you're probably right, most of the time.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Christian Graus wrote:
Didn't Moses write the Pentateuch, or at least, isn't he credited with doing so
Yes he is - and apart from receiving the 10 Commandments upon Mt. Sinai and being banned by God from ever visiting the Promised Land, there's no Biblical evidence that God imparted creationism or anything else.
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Didn't Moses write the Pentateuch, or at least, isn't he credited with doing so
Yes he is - and apart from receiving the 10 Commandments upon Mt. Sinai and being banned by God from ever visiting the Promised Land, there's no Biblical evidence that God imparted creationism or anything else.
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
Well, once can see how Genesis suggests creationism.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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Funny indeed. What a fucking joke. Seriously, as I scientist, I should have the right to shoot these people on sight.
"I know what you know and you don't know what I know."
Yeah, ever since I heard about these places, it's bothered me tremendously that they can call them 'museums.'
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Didn't Moses write the Pentateuch, or at least, isn't he credited with doing so
Yes he is - and apart from receiving the 10 Commandments upon Mt. Sinai and being banned by God from ever visiting the Promised Land, there's no Biblical evidence that God imparted creationism or anything else.
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
martin_hughes wrote:
Yes he is - and apart from receiving the 10 Commandments upon Mt. Sinai and being banned by God from ever visiting the Promised Land, there's no Biblical evidence that God imparted creationism or anything else.
It is commonly accepted that the ten commandments were the only words in the bible actually written by the hand of God. The rest were all written by men, guided by Gods hand (or something like that). I know of no Christians who don't understand that.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all.
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martin_hughes wrote:
Yes he is - and apart from receiving the 10 Commandments upon Mt. Sinai and being banned by God from ever visiting the Promised Land, there's no Biblical evidence that God imparted creationism or anything else.
It is commonly accepted that the ten commandments were the only words in the bible actually written by the hand of God. The rest were all written by men, guided by Gods hand (or something like that). I know of no Christians who don't understand that.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all.
MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Well, ok, that.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all.
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Well, ok, that.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all.
*grin*
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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Someone took these pictures at the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum. http://web.mit.edu/gjordan/www/creation/slides/_DSC2403.html This one is pretty funny. http://web.mit.edu/gjordan/www/creation/slides/_DSC2393.html
These are some seriously misguided/delusional people but excellent fodder for piss taking.
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Someone took these pictures at the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum. http://web.mit.edu/gjordan/www/creation/slides/_DSC2403.html This one is pretty funny. http://web.mit.edu/gjordan/www/creation/slides/_DSC2393.html
Wow! So that's how Noah managed to fit those tens of millions of animals onto his tiny little boat. Many were only pony sized! Oh, so that's why people and dinosaurs have absolutely no evidence of existing together! Because we didn't die together! I assume then that we lived in perfect harmony? It's probably wrong about the crocodiles anyway - I bet somewhere, somehow, a crocodile had died not long after eating a human.
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MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
What?
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What?
It's "the writing on the wall".
"I know what you know and you don't know what I know."
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It's "the writing on the wall".
"I know what you know and you don't know what I know."
I have no idea why the Biggus Dickus-scene from Life of Brian just popped up in my mind. :~
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I have no idea why the Biggus Dickus-scene from Life of Brian just popped up in my mind. :~
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I have no idea why the Biggus Dickus-scene from Life of Brian just popped up in my mind.
I laughed so hard the first time I saw that. I could hardly see...
"I know what you know and you don't know what I know."
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I have no idea why the Biggus Dickus-scene from Life of Brian just popped up in my mind.
I laughed so hard the first time I saw that. I could hardly see...
"I know what you know and you don't know what I know."
Life of Brian is one of the best comedy movies ever made. I wonder if there will ever be a team like Monty Python again...
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Wow! So that's how Noah managed to fit those tens of millions of animals onto his tiny little boat. Many were only pony sized! Oh, so that's why people and dinosaurs have absolutely no evidence of existing together! Because we didn't die together! I assume then that we lived in perfect harmony? It's probably wrong about the crocodiles anyway - I bet somewhere, somehow, a crocodile had died not long after eating a human.
Actually, according to the Bible Noah's ark was 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high. I would not call that a tiny little boat. All I have seen in this thread is straw man arguments and name calling.
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Actually, according to the Bible Noah's ark was 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high. I would not call that a tiny little boat. All I have seen in this thread is straw man arguments and name calling.
Creationists are not worth engaging in a rational debate with, because they will modify their beliefs to fit around any evidence you give them, usually involving adding some magic act by God. For instance, most creationists will say that the reason that we can see stars farther away than 6000 light years is because God created the light on the way to earth, or if you ask where the flood waters went, they will say that God took them away. Trying to prove such things false would be like trying to prove there is not an invisible elf living in your back yard, or, to use the classic teapot example, to prove that there is not a tiny teapot orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars. It's futile.
"It's apparently your goal in life (so to speak) to be DemonChow." - Ilion
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Creationists are not worth engaging in a rational debate with, because they will modify their beliefs to fit around any evidence you give them, usually involving adding some magic act by God. For instance, most creationists will say that the reason that we can see stars farther away than 6000 light years is because God created the light on the way to earth, or if you ask where the flood waters went, they will say that God took them away. Trying to prove such things false would be like trying to prove there is not an invisible elf living in your back yard, or, to use the classic teapot example, to prove that there is not a tiny teapot orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars. It's futile.
"It's apparently your goal in life (so to speak) to be DemonChow." - Ilion
Thank you for your rational response. You bring up a difficult point that I have often wondered about myself and is extremely difficult to answer. The following link discusses the question of light from distant stars from a creationist perspective http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/405.asp[^] I think the underlying question is what is the basis of truth. As a Christian, if there appears to be a conflict between what I believe the Bible teaches and scientific theories, I should examine both critically. Scientists have been wrong, and Bible interpreters have been wrong.
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Thank you for your rational response. You bring up a difficult point that I have often wondered about myself and is extremely difficult to answer. The following link discusses the question of light from distant stars from a creationist perspective http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/405.asp[^] I think the underlying question is what is the basis of truth. As a Christian, if there appears to be a conflict between what I believe the Bible teaches and scientific theories, I should examine both critically. Scientists have been wrong, and Bible interpreters have been wrong.
Having a PhD in theoretical physics, I am qualified to tell you that the "information" (and I use that term in quotes and in it's most loosest sense) in that link is total horseshit.
"I know what you know and you don't know what I know."
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Thank you for your rational response. You bring up a difficult point that I have often wondered about myself and is extremely difficult to answer. The following link discusses the question of light from distant stars from a creationist perspective http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/405.asp[^] I think the underlying question is what is the basis of truth. As a Christian, if there appears to be a conflict between what I believe the Bible teaches and scientific theories, I should examine both critically. Scientists have been wrong, and Bible interpreters have been wrong.
Quote: " and is extremely difficult to answer." But only if you are trying to fit it in with ancient religious beliefs. Quote: "As a Christian, if there appears to be a conflict between what I believe the Bible teaches and scientific theories, I should examine both critically. Scientists have been wrong, and Bible interpreters have been wrong." The young earth view may have been rational hundreds of years ago, but now that there is more understanding of the universe, it is preposterous to try to say that there is scientific evidence for it. Consider for instance the Moon. Looking at it through a small telescope, you can see hundreds of craters. You can also see areas on it's surface that are younger and have fewer craters. This is evidence that it's surface has been changing over a very long period of time. There is absolutely no way that all those changes could have happened in the last 6000 years. To explain that with Young Earth Creationism, you would have to say that God created the moon to look as if it is very old. But why would he do that? That would be very deceitful of Him. This is just one example of how Young Earth Creationism makes absolutely no sense. And, for the sake of argument, consider that science does prove that the universe is young. How do you know which creation story and god to believe in? It's all completely arbitrary.
"It's apparently your goal in life (so to speak) to be DemonChow." - Ilion