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Tom Archer wrote: You failed being bad Actually, last night a great success. The things I've learned from alt.seduction.fast, and my automobile made sure of it. My new makeover is very hip, and I stand out as a player. :cool:
Martin Marvinski wrote: and I stand out as a player. Take it from someone who knows. I've always had the "look" as it's referred to by a friend of mine. Did that get me laid? No! It's attitude. You have to find it and believe it and cannot buy it. Also, there's no damn website, newsgroup or anything that's going to teach you how to bring home a chick. This only comes with practice, but you first you have to stop thinking "desperately". But the catch is you have to get laid first before that kicks in. My solution was to lay some "not so hot" chicks to begin with to relieve myself. Then, being "cool" will shine through when you talk to other women. Remember, you think nice ass, and she could be thinking rapist if you come across overbearing. First, make them comfortable then make them wet. Use body language too! In conversations watch for eye contact, the direction of their feet (should be pointed towards you). If they play with their hair then they are nervous in a good way. If they make it a point to touch your arm (not brush it - a real touch) then they are showing their comfort, etc. Get the whole idea of learning to be a player online out of your head. I started learning from a guy who fucked over 30 women, and guess what... I still didn't get laid from what he told me alone. The teachings make sense, but you have to tweak it to find what's working for you. And, it's hit and miss. If you strike out one night, learn from it and don't whine. I strike out often, but that's becoming less because I'm learning from it. Remember, player is mainly attitude! The "look" is nice, but the attitude will bring you home. And, women wanna have sex, just most don't want to seem slutty and they have to stay comfortable. Be somewhat dominating in a manly way, but give in to sensitive areas in conversation so they stay comfortable. If you loose that, you loose the game. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
Martin Marvinski wrote: and I stand out as a player. Take it from someone who knows. I've always had the "look" as it's referred to by a friend of mine. Did that get me laid? No! It's attitude. You have to find it and believe it and cannot buy it. Also, there's no damn website, newsgroup or anything that's going to teach you how to bring home a chick. This only comes with practice, but you first you have to stop thinking "desperately". But the catch is you have to get laid first before that kicks in. My solution was to lay some "not so hot" chicks to begin with to relieve myself. Then, being "cool" will shine through when you talk to other women. Remember, you think nice ass, and she could be thinking rapist if you come across overbearing. First, make them comfortable then make them wet. Use body language too! In conversations watch for eye contact, the direction of their feet (should be pointed towards you). If they play with their hair then they are nervous in a good way. If they make it a point to touch your arm (not brush it - a real touch) then they are showing their comfort, etc. Get the whole idea of learning to be a player online out of your head. I started learning from a guy who fucked over 30 women, and guess what... I still didn't get laid from what he told me alone. The teachings make sense, but you have to tweak it to find what's working for you. And, it's hit and miss. If you strike out one night, learn from it and don't whine. I strike out often, but that's becoming less because I'm learning from it. Remember, player is mainly attitude! The "look" is nice, but the attitude will bring you home. And, women wanna have sex, just most don't want to seem slutty and they have to stay comfortable. Be somewhat dominating in a manly way, but give in to sensitive areas in conversation so they stay comfortable. If you loose that, you loose the game. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' RosesWell put, Jeremy. I remember when I first got divorced a number of years ago. I hit the weights hard and heavy (couple of hours a day, 6 days a week). At 5'11", I was 200 lbs with a 32" waist. I wore the tightest jeans and tshirt I could get into and strutted around praying for someone to be interested. Guess what?! Not a single bit of interest for months! No matter how great I made my body, NOBODY seemed the least bit interested. Then one day at work, a beautiful older woman comes up to me and starts flirting with me. Talking about how my long blonde hair makes me look like a star, etc, etc. I play it cool and *she* asks me out. Asks me if I have a tuxedo. I lie and say yes. I leave work on cloud freakin' 9. I stop at the grocery store. I see a fine looking girl. By this time, I *think* I walk on water. This time I instigate the talk. Find out she's new in town. I tell her there's a rock group playing this weekend and ask if she wants to go. I can also show her around town - her being new and all. She's down for it. We exchange numbers. 2 for 2. Now I *know* I walk on water. I'm heading over to the Blockbuster. This cute "hispanic" girl is having difficulty trying to query the counter person as to a good comedy. I figure I'll show off (after all, I'm high as a kite at this point) and start speaking to her in Spanish. Oops! She's Iranian! No biggie. I'm way too confident at this point to even be embarrassed about such things. We have a good laugh together. I walk over to the comedy section with her and show her some tapes. We're done and just as she's turning to leave, I ask her for her phone number. She hesitates a brief second and looks in my eyes. I don't budge, looking deep into her eyes. She reaches into her purse pulls out a pen and writes her number down. Another date. The point to all this is that after months and months of killing myself training and not one girl showing any outward signs of interest, one little tweak in attitude and I get three dates in about a 4 hour period! A great body might get a girl's attention at first, but as you said, it's the attitude that will keep her interest every time. Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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I guess this is evidence of what I said before - unless you actually become a Christian, there is not much benefit in trying to live like one. It's just too hard. I should know, I tried for two years. I'm sorry you didn't respond to my prior posts. I seriously doubt from what you've said here that you are/were a Christian, and I reiterate that, were you to become one, you would not find it a struggle to live like one. However, if you're not interested in doing what the Bible says, then there is no benefit in knocking yourself on the head, you may as well go out and do whatever you feel like. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: However, if you're not interested in doing what the Bible says, then there is no benefit in knocking yourself on the head, you may as well go out and do whatever you feel like. I tried doing what the Bible said, and it was very hard. On top of that I wasn't even a Christian because I didn't speak in tounges. Why should I do the work without the benefits?
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Well, that was quick. A 2000 year-old system of rules, beliefs, and ideals in a matter of weeks... i gotta hand it to you*****. You should consider a line of self-help books: Martin Marvinski's How to be a Programmer Martin Marvinski's How to be a Manager Martin Marvinski's How to be a Christian Martin Marvinski's How to be a Player Martin Marvinski's How to be a Pro Wrestler Martin Marvinski's How to be a Dalai Lama Martin Marvinski's How to be a Concert Pianist Martin Marvinski's How to be a Rock Super-Star Martin Marvinski's How to be an Unsatisfied Wanker *****careful, i sneezed on 'it'; damn hayfever... ----i don't suppose i'll bother mentioning how you seemed to spend most of your time as a christian whining about all you'd given up, and very little time considering what you gained. This probably says something about your attitude to start with, and could lead to serious self-reflection. Can't have *that* now...----
Have you hugged your monitor today?
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Shog9 wrote: Martin Marvinski's How to be an Unsatisfied Wanker What is that supposed to mean? :confused: :mad: X|
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Christian Graus wrote: However, if you're not interested in doing what the Bible says, then there is no benefit in knocking yourself on the head, you may as well go out and do whatever you feel like. I tried doing what the Bible said, and it was very hard. On top of that I wasn't even a Christian because I didn't speak in tounges. Why should I do the work without the benefits?
Martin Marvinski wrote: I tried doing what the Bible said, and it was very hard. Hell, yes, it's hard, if you try to live as a Christian without becoming one. It's putting the cart before the horse. Martin Marvinski wrote: On top of that I wasn't even a Christian because I didn't speak in tounges. That's correct. So if you wanted to find out what it's like to be a Christian, you need first become a Christian. THEN it's simply natural to live a Christian life, that is to say, it's not a struggle. Martin Marvinski wrote: Why should I do the work without the benefits? No reason, that would be silly. The question is, do you want to avoid the work, or seek out the benefits ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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Shog9 wrote: Martin Marvinski's How to be an Unsatisfied Wanker What is that supposed to mean? :confused: :mad: X|
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Person still horny after jerking offGeez, there *was* a day when flip comments were left wild and free... :rolleyes: --------
Have you hugged your monitor today?
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Martin Marvinski wrote: I tried doing what the Bible said, and it was very hard. Hell, yes, it's hard, if you try to live as a Christian without becoming one. It's putting the cart before the horse. Martin Marvinski wrote: On top of that I wasn't even a Christian because I didn't speak in tounges. That's correct. So if you wanted to find out what it's like to be a Christian, you need first become a Christian. THEN it's simply natural to live a Christian life, that is to say, it's not a struggle. Martin Marvinski wrote: Why should I do the work without the benefits? No reason, that would be silly. The question is, do you want to avoid the work, or seek out the benefits ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: So if you wanted to find out what it's like to be a Christian, you need first become a Christian. Ok, now you don't make sense. I became a Christian by going to Church and having Bible study at my home. Unless of course, God decides, and forces you to speak in tounges...are you saying that I will just, one day out of the blue, start rambling and chanting?
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Martin Marvinski's How to be an Unsatisfied Wanker
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Person still horny after jerking offGeez, there *was* a day when flip comments were left wild and free... :rolleyes: --------
Have you hugged your monitor today?
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Shog9 wrote: Person still horny after jerking off I will never write that book. :cool:
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Christian Graus wrote: So if you wanted to find out what it's like to be a Christian, you need first become a Christian. Ok, now you don't make sense. I became a Christian by going to Church and having Bible study at my home. Unless of course, God decides, and forces you to speak in tounges...are you saying that I will just, one day out of the blue, start rambling and chanting?
Martin Marvinski wrote: I became a Christian by going to Church and having Bible study at my home. I'm afraid you didn't. The Bible says you become a Christian by asking God for the Holy Spirit, and when He responds, you will speak in tongues. Luke 11 records Jesus saying you need to keep asking until you have the Holy Spirit - the point of the parable He tells is that even though we ask, it sometimes takes us a while to 'open the door' and let Him in. Martin Marvinski wrote: Unless of course, God decides, and forces you to speak in tounges God does not force you, you need to ask Him. Martin Marvinski wrote: are you saying that I will just, one day out of the blue, start rambling and chanting? No. If you ask Him, you will, at some point, start to speak in tongues, and THEN you will be a Christian. There is a slim chance that I can recommend a church in your area that understands and teaches these things - would you like me to find out ? ( I'd need to know where you are ) In either case, I suspect the 'Christian' thing is being overdone on CP - I'd suggest we discuss it in private because it's really quite off topic on CP, and I think it's upsetting more people than it is involving, by a fair degree. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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Martin Marvinski wrote: I became a Christian by going to Church and having Bible study at my home. I'm afraid you didn't. The Bible says you become a Christian by asking God for the Holy Spirit, and when He responds, you will speak in tongues. Luke 11 records Jesus saying you need to keep asking until you have the Holy Spirit - the point of the parable He tells is that even though we ask, it sometimes takes us a while to 'open the door' and let Him in. Martin Marvinski wrote: Unless of course, God decides, and forces you to speak in tounges God does not force you, you need to ask Him. Martin Marvinski wrote: are you saying that I will just, one day out of the blue, start rambling and chanting? No. If you ask Him, you will, at some point, start to speak in tongues, and THEN you will be a Christian. There is a slim chance that I can recommend a church in your area that understands and teaches these things - would you like me to find out ? ( I'd need to know where you are ) In either case, I suspect the 'Christian' thing is being overdone on CP - I'd suggest we discuss it in private because it's really quite off topic on CP, and I think it's upsetting more people than it is involving, by a fair degree. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: The Bible says you become a Christian by asking God for the Holy Spirit, and when He responds, you will speak in tongues. Why didn't you say so in the first place!? We could've avoided countless threads..
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Christian Graus wrote: The Bible says you become a Christian by asking God for the Holy Spirit, and when He responds, you will speak in tongues. Why didn't you say so in the first place!? We could've avoided countless threads..
Poor Martin. :(( Have you tried excess alcohol as a good alternative to speaking in tounges? :laugh: I'm sorry, I could not resist chipping in some off-key sarcastic remark before I hit the sheets. ____________________ David Wulff I've locked myself in the basement and can't get out! Please tell somebody.
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Christian Graus wrote: The Bible says you become a Christian by asking God for the Holy Spirit, and when He responds, you will speak in tongues. Why didn't you say so in the first place!? We could've avoided countless threads..
Martin Marvinski wrote: We could've avoided countless threads.. You achieved what you wanted your post count has gone up.:) I have never wasted time worrying about such insignificant things. Keep your eye upon the donut and NOT upon the hole. - Bill Sergio about posting in the right forum. The Lounge - June 23, 2002
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Christian Graus wrote: The Bible says you become a Christian by asking God for the Holy Spirit, and when He responds, you will speak in tongues. Why didn't you say so in the first place!? We could've avoided countless threads..
I thought I did.... Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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I thought I did.... Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: I thought I did.... You told me that I wasn't a Christian because I didn't speak in tounges, but you never told me that I had to ask for God in order to speak in tounges.
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Martin Marvinski wrote: We could've avoided countless threads.. You achieved what you wanted your post count has gone up.:) I have never wasted time worrying about such insignificant things. Keep your eye upon the donut and NOT upon the hole. - Bill Sergio about posting in the right forum. The Lounge - June 23, 2002
Rama Krishna wrote: You achieved what you wanted your post count has gone up. I guess that is one benefit of this misunderstanding.
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Being a Christian is way overrated. All I ever got was nothing but agony in return for hours of Bible study and Church. Why did I give 10% of my earnings to that scam!? :(( I must say that after an excellent Friday evening filled with debauchery, my soul is back to it's happy old self. Nature intended us to drink alchol at upscale bars and boink hot women. For anyone thinking of becoming a Christian, here is a word from someone who has tried it: Don't do it. Now if I could only get those Bible study Christians to stop calling on me..
Bad Martin. :-O
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Christian Graus wrote: I thought I did.... You told me that I wasn't a Christian because I didn't speak in tounges, but you never told me that I had to ask for God in order to speak in tounges.
Martin Marvinski wrote: You told me that I wasn't a Christian because I didn't speak in tounges, but you never told me that I had to ask for God in order to speak in tounges. To be honest, I always try to say the minimum necessary to give people a chance to ask more - I am cautious of not posting beyond what people are interested in hearing, because this is not a forum dedicated to Christianity, and I don't want to be pushing the issue beyond what people want to hear. I am not ashamed or embarrased to discuss Christianity, but I AM aware of the idea that this is not a forum dedicated to discussing such things. If you review my posting history, I'd hope I am always keen to talk about these things, but also careful to not be the one initiating discussions. It's a fine line between being approachable, and being the guy who always wants to push a topic that most people here are not interested in. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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Well put, Jeremy. I remember when I first got divorced a number of years ago. I hit the weights hard and heavy (couple of hours a day, 6 days a week). At 5'11", I was 200 lbs with a 32" waist. I wore the tightest jeans and tshirt I could get into and strutted around praying for someone to be interested. Guess what?! Not a single bit of interest for months! No matter how great I made my body, NOBODY seemed the least bit interested. Then one day at work, a beautiful older woman comes up to me and starts flirting with me. Talking about how my long blonde hair makes me look like a star, etc, etc. I play it cool and *she* asks me out. Asks me if I have a tuxedo. I lie and say yes. I leave work on cloud freakin' 9. I stop at the grocery store. I see a fine looking girl. By this time, I *think* I walk on water. This time I instigate the talk. Find out she's new in town. I tell her there's a rock group playing this weekend and ask if she wants to go. I can also show her around town - her being new and all. She's down for it. We exchange numbers. 2 for 2. Now I *know* I walk on water. I'm heading over to the Blockbuster. This cute "hispanic" girl is having difficulty trying to query the counter person as to a good comedy. I figure I'll show off (after all, I'm high as a kite at this point) and start speaking to her in Spanish. Oops! She's Iranian! No biggie. I'm way too confident at this point to even be embarrassed about such things. We have a good laugh together. I walk over to the comedy section with her and show her some tapes. We're done and just as she's turning to leave, I ask her for her phone number. She hesitates a brief second and looks in my eyes. I don't budge, looking deep into her eyes. She reaches into her purse pulls out a pen and writes her number down. Another date. The point to all this is that after months and months of killing myself training and not one girl showing any outward signs of interest, one little tweak in attitude and I get three dates in about a 4 hour period! A great body might get a girl's attention at first, but as you said, it's the attitude that will keep her interest every time. Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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George wrote: Man, you should be writing a books or something Hmm. I think I'll give that a shot :) Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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Being a Christian is way overrated. All I ever got was nothing but agony in return for hours of Bible study and Church. Why did I give 10% of my earnings to that scam!? :(( I must say that after an excellent Friday evening filled with debauchery, my soul is back to it's happy old self. Nature intended us to drink alchol at upscale bars and boink hot women. For anyone thinking of becoming a Christian, here is a word from someone who has tried it: Don't do it. Now if I could only get those Bible study Christians to stop calling on me..
Martin Marvinski wrote: Being a Christian is way overrated. I am curious to ask what kind of Christian did you try to become? I mean, what is the official name of the Church that you were attending to for the bible study etc? Did those people come to you first or did you found them? Martin Marvinski wrote: All I ever got was nothing but agony in return for hours of Bible study and Church. To some extent the Bible study can be educational, nowadays people don't get too much time to spent on the Bible which is a shame because Bible is an important piece in the puzzle of understanding who we are as a human kind. Martin Marvinski wrote: Why did I give 10% of my earnings to that scam!? Good question. Did they ask or presured you to do so? Martin Marvinski wrote: Nature intended us to drink alchol at upscale bars and boink hot women. All in all it looks like you are going tru some sort of "psychosis", getting from one extreme to another. It might not work too well all together, you should rather try to keep the balance. The othet thing is that you should perhaps try to find the "inner fire" in yourself rather than going to search it outside. Hear the different opinions and points of views, hell, go to anther church or bible study just to get a perspective. But in the end, you have to have your own mind or you might become a slawe and a tool in the wrong hands, a puppet of some sort... Stay cool...