Religious musings
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Roger Wright wrote: It takes him a while, now and then, to come up with something clever. But stay tuned, it's bound to happen... Yeah, I know, but 3 hours??? Nish
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We do have some time zone differences here, Nish. Be patient. Do you have any idea how many beers I have to drink just to be here when you finally decide to grace us with your presence? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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Hindus and Jews would be a good arena game - monotheism vs polytheism. If we could ever arrange such a contest, I'd appreciate enough warning to get some bets down. Judaism was the first (as far as I know) world religion to embrace the concept of a single God, albeit a God of many faces. Hinduism (to the best of my limited knowledge) still embraces a tripartite Godhead, with a number of demigods responsible for minor duties. I don't have any problem reconciling either belief system with the Bible I read. Sadly, some people do. As a Christian, I believe that our avatar, Jesus, came to us to tell us that acceptance and respect for the belief systems of others was our duty. In answer to your query, Nish, Abraham and His covenant with God, created the Jewish nation. His offspring were His chosen people. I have no idea where Hinduism originates, except for the excellent tale told of Krishna's great battle against evil. In the Bahgvad Gita - I know I spelled that wrong, but I'm at a loss to correct it. It's been a long while since I've studied such things... But it remains one of the greatest tales ever told - I commend it to everyone's reading! I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
Roger Wright wrote: Hinduism (to the best of my limited knowledge) still embraces a tripartite Godhead Actually from what I know of Hinduism, there is one main god called shakthi. Shakthi has three separate existences. The first one is for creation – called Brahma, the 2nd one is called Vishnu [who's the god who handles stuff for people who are alive and then siva – the terminator god. Then here is a pretty complicated hierarchy of sub gods who are basically the staff in the god-department I guess. And Siva and Vishnu have their wives who become powerful cause of their being married to powerful men. Vishnu himself has 12 separate instances. Two of them are Rama and krishna - the most popular Vishnu instances. Nish
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Hindus and Jews would be a good arena game - monotheism vs polytheism. If we could ever arrange such a contest, I'd appreciate enough warning to get some bets down. Judaism was the first (as far as I know) world religion to embrace the concept of a single God, albeit a God of many faces. Hinduism (to the best of my limited knowledge) still embraces a tripartite Godhead, with a number of demigods responsible for minor duties. I don't have any problem reconciling either belief system with the Bible I read. Sadly, some people do. As a Christian, I believe that our avatar, Jesus, came to us to tell us that acceptance and respect for the belief systems of others was our duty. In answer to your query, Nish, Abraham and His covenant with God, created the Jewish nation. His offspring were His chosen people. I have no idea where Hinduism originates, except for the excellent tale told of Krishna's great battle against evil. In the Bahgvad Gita - I know I spelled that wrong, but I'm at a loss to correct it. It's been a long while since I've studied such things... But it remains one of the greatest tales ever told - I commend it to everyone's reading! I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
Roger Wright wrote: Judaism was the first (as far as I know) world religion to embrace the concept of a single God, Most folk believe that, but there is very strong evidence that they were not the first by a long shot. A lot of religions had a Supreme God and then lower gods similar to angels. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Roger Wright wrote: Hinduism (to the best of my limited knowledge) still embraces a tripartite Godhead Actually from what I know of Hinduism, there is one main god called shakthi. Shakthi has three separate existences. The first one is for creation – called Brahma, the 2nd one is called Vishnu [who's the god who handles stuff for people who are alive and then siva – the terminator god. Then here is a pretty complicated hierarchy of sub gods who are basically the staff in the god-department I guess. And Siva and Vishnu have their wives who become powerful cause of their being married to powerful men. Vishnu himself has 12 separate instances. Two of them are Rama and krishna - the most popular Vishnu instances. Nish
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I appreciate the clarification, Nish. Obviously it's time for me to go back to my studies. My understanding is focused on Siva (pronounced Shiva here). The Destroyer, yet also the bringer of new life. I've always felt an attraction to that one, the iconoclast who breaks old traditions and forges new ones! This one is the spirit of life!:-D Shakti is the best analogue I can see to Yahweh, the god of the Jews, and the father of the Christ. It embraces all, but delegates some of its duties to subordinates... I don't know much of Shakti, but I'll be learning - thanks for the reference :-D I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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Roger Wright wrote: Judaism was the first (as far as I know) world religion to embrace the concept of a single God, Most folk believe that, but there is very strong evidence that they were not the first by a long shot. A lot of religions had a Supreme God and then lower gods similar to angels. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: there is very strong evidence that they were not the first by a long shot. I'd love to see some references. By my reading, the Judaic tribes were the first to abandon Baal and accept the idea of a single source of all things. Which other social groups made that leap of faith? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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We do have some time zone differences here, Nish. Be patient. Do you have any idea how many beers I have to drink just to be here when you finally decide to grace us with your presence? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
Roger Wright wrote: Do you have any idea how many beers I have to drink just to be here when you finally decide to grace us with your presence? Sorry about that. But I am having problems with my ISP at home who claim to be having problems with their parent ISP. So I dont have proper net access at home and thus no point in staying awake at night without net access :-(
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Colin Davies wrote: there is very strong evidence that they were not the first by a long shot. I'd love to see some references. By my reading, the Judaic tribes were the first to abandon Baal and accept the idea of a single source of all things. Which other social groups made that leap of faith? I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
References are not at hand at the moment, But I have read it several times in Archaeological reports. The belief that Judaism was first, is now becoming to be believed as more wishful thinking and an assumption, than anything else. Next time I find some info I'll share it with you. Regardz Colin J Davies
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References are not at hand at the moment, But I have read it several times in Archaeological reports. The belief that Judaism was first, is now becoming to be believed as more wishful thinking and an assumption, than anything else. Next time I find some info I'll share it with you. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: Next time I find some info I'll share it with you. Please do! :) That sounds very interesting if true - it could change a lot of thinking about early human societies. I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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Imagine this. IF (Christ* and Mohammed) were NOT born then there'd be no Christians and Muslims on Earth today. Can you even imagine that??? The world would be full of Buddhists, Jews and Hindus. Then again if Buddha wasn't born, it'd be just Hindus and Jews. I donno who started Jews and Hinduism. Nish *I had mistyped this as Chris first :-)
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i know you love codeproject, but chris is not god (i think). and if the person that started judaism and hinuism was neva alive, no one would be religious, and it would stop a lot of wars over sacred land. hail to thee oh mighty chris
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Roger Wright wrote: Hinduism (to the best of my limited knowledge) still embraces a tripartite Godhead Actually from what I know of Hinduism, there is one main god called shakthi. Shakthi has three separate existences. The first one is for creation – called Brahma, the 2nd one is called Vishnu [who's the god who handles stuff for people who are alive and then siva – the terminator god. Then here is a pretty complicated hierarchy of sub gods who are basically the staff in the god-department I guess. And Siva and Vishnu have their wives who become powerful cause of their being married to powerful men. Vishnu himself has 12 separate instances. Two of them are Rama and krishna - the most popular Vishnu instances. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Imagine this. IF (Christ* and Mohammed) were NOT born then there'd be no Christians and Muslims on Earth today. Can you even imagine that??? The world would be full of Buddhists, Jews and Hindus. Then again if Buddha wasn't born, it'd be just Hindus and Jews. I donno who started Jews and Hinduism. Nish *I had mistyped this as Chris first :-)
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The birth of Mohammed and his eventual religion is a fulfilment of Bible prophecy, as is the birth of Jesus, and His life. So I guess it depends on your POV. I think they were born to fulfil what the Bible says, but if you don't believe that, you'd probably believe that had they not been born, people would just have followed someone else. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Could anyone who is going to get irrational about me quoting their posts here please insert the following notice into their signature: I am a whiny pussy
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Hindus and Jews would be a good arena game - monotheism vs polytheism. If we could ever arrange such a contest, I'd appreciate enough warning to get some bets down. Judaism was the first (as far as I know) world religion to embrace the concept of a single God, albeit a God of many faces. Hinduism (to the best of my limited knowledge) still embraces a tripartite Godhead, with a number of demigods responsible for minor duties. I don't have any problem reconciling either belief system with the Bible I read. Sadly, some people do. As a Christian, I believe that our avatar, Jesus, came to us to tell us that acceptance and respect for the belief systems of others was our duty. In answer to your query, Nish, Abraham and His covenant with God, created the Jewish nation. His offspring were His chosen people. I have no idea where Hinduism originates, except for the excellent tale told of Krishna's great battle against evil. In the Bahgvad Gita - I know I spelled that wrong, but I'm at a loss to correct it. It's been a long while since I've studied such things... But it remains one of the greatest tales ever told - I commend it to everyone's reading! I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
Roger Wright wrote: As a Christian, I believe that our avatar, Jesus, came to us to tell us that acceptance and respect for the belief systems of others was our duty. Wow - that's kind of the opposite to what He said !!! Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Could anyone who is going to get irrational about me quoting their posts here please insert the following notice into their signature: I am a whiny pussy
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Roger Wright wrote: As a Christian, I believe that our avatar, Jesus, came to us to tell us that acceptance and respect for the belief systems of others was our duty. Wow - that's kind of the opposite to what He said !!! Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Could anyone who is going to get irrational about me quoting their posts here please insert the following notice into their signature: I am a whiny pussy
Christian Graus wrote: that's kind of the opposite to what He said !!! Not as I read it. True, he taught that there is only one way, but he didn't encourage us to persecute and attack other faiths, but to live in accordance with God's law and help others to find the way. I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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Christian Graus wrote: that's kind of the opposite to what He said !!! Not as I read it. True, he taught that there is only one way, but he didn't encourage us to persecute and attack other faiths, but to live in accordance with God's law and help others to find the way. I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
Roger Wright wrote: True, he taught that there is only one way That's right. Roger Wright wrote: but he didn't encourage us to persecute and attack other faiths, but to live in accordance with God's law and help others to find the way. I agree - that is not what I read your first post to say. Jesus didn't accept other peoples faiths as having any validity, including those who thought they were following God. He also didn't go about attacking people, He corrected them. I guess we seem to agree, it's just that I misread your original post. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Remember that amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.
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Nishant S wrote: Two of them are Rama and krishna - the most popular Vishnu instances. Partially due, it should be mentioned, to an elegant screensaver and a kick-ass notification toolbar. --------
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Shog9 wrote: Partially due, it should be mentioned, to an elegant screensaver and a kick-ass notification toolbar. LOL Good one Shog! Rama, did ya see this? Nish :-D
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