Jefferson
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There are some fantastics quotes form the US founding fathers. They must have been an extraordinary group of people. I particularly like some of the incites handed down to us by Patrick Henry which I guess will raise a storm of protest from those here who's ideas are utterly contrary while they would claim the legacy. "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." "It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." I think you'd be hard pressed to find 3 more appropriate quotes for today from anyone anywhere at any time. For those who think as some clearly do that defense of the beloved nation abbrogrates all moral responsibility and suspends all laws and common decency I would point them at the words of Daniel Webster "There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men and become the instruments of their own undoing." I certainly could not have put it better myself.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Indeed the Founding Fathers - both the Christians and the Deists - represented a flowering of the Enlightenment. My favorite has always been John Adams whose story has always been overshadowed by the men he worked with, manipulated, cajoled, cursed and served. "But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever." "In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress" "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." "Fear is the foundation of most governments." "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." "Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak."
Jon Information doesn't want to be free. It wants to be sixty-nine cents @ pound.
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And a raven is like a writing desk, so next time you see someone at a desk, writing, go ahead and accuse them of animal cruelty. :rolleyes:
Shog9 wrote:
And a raven is like a writing desk
Good one, that analogy was not in the last bit lame!
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Shog9 wrote:
And a raven is like a writing desk
Good one, that analogy was not in the last bit lame!
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Shog9 wrote:
Glad i was able to help your understanding of the fallacy of analogy.
Well you did make it clear how much of a fallacy your lame your analogy was. Only someone who spends hours writing firefox scripts that only work with one site could write something that lame.
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Shog9 wrote:
Glad i was able to help your understanding of the fallacy of analogy.
Well you did make it clear how much of a fallacy your lame your analogy was. Only someone who spends hours writing firefox scripts that only work with one site could write something that lame.
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George Washington was also a witch. 1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. I don't see where Christians get the idea that this country was founded on their religion when the Bible says it was founded on witchcraft!
I believe that was stated in the context of rebellion against what God commanded Saul to do. I don't think that was meant to be interpreted to mean that rebellion or revolution in general was a sin. :laugh: I love the 1 votes with no reply. Says to me "I got nothing, but I'm a spiteful little wiener."
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modified on Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:01:52 PM
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My goodness, child - is that the beginnings of an insult? An ad hominem attack via a subtle dig at the worth of a hobby? And after i twice handed you opportunity for real criticism. Such ingratitude, *tsk*. And by a star-gazer at that. :rolleyes: ;P
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I believe that was stated in the context of rebellion against what God commanded Saul to do. I don't think that was meant to be interpreted to mean that rebellion or revolution in general was a sin. :laugh: I love the 1 votes with no reply. Says to me "I got nothing, but I'm a spiteful little wiener."
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modified on Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:01:52 PM
BoneSoft wrote:
I love the 1 votes with no reply. Says to me "I got nothing, but I'm a spiteful little wiener."
:laugh: The irony. You just went through voting my posts 1.0, so I returned the favor and you call me a "wiener".
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BoneSoft wrote:
I love the 1 votes with no reply. Says to me "I got nothing, but I'm a spiteful little wiener."
:laugh: The irony. You just went through voting my posts 1.0, so I returned the favor and you call me a "wiener".
You assume too much. Like I've said before, with the quality and insight of your posts there are literally millions of candidates for who voted you down. It wasn't me. And you still got nothing.
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
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You assume too much. Like I've said before, with the quality and insight of your posts there are literally millions of candidates for who voted you down. It wasn't me. And you still got nothing.
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
You're so hilarious. I was not really being serious, and I don't think Shog9 was either. Then along you come thinking this is some kind of formal debate and thinking you have some how "got" me when I don't reply. :rolleyes:
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My goodness, child - is that the beginnings of an insult? An ad hominem attack via a subtle dig at the worth of a hobby? And after i twice handed you opportunity for real criticism. Such ingratitude, *tsk*. And by a star-gazer at that. :rolleyes: ;P