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  • J Johnny

    Stan Shannon wrote:

    The belief in moderate Muslims, for example. The belief that multi-culturalism is a sustainable attribute of a culture. The belief that morality can be open source. Lots of other nonsense.

    That's probably the dumbest thing I've seen all day. Still, at least Jeffersonian politics weren't mentioned again.

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    Johnny ² wrote:

    Still, at least Jeffersonian politics weren't mentioned again

    The really funny thing is that the correct phrase is 'Jeffersonian Liberal."

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      Johnny ² wrote:

      Still, at least Jeffersonian politics weren't mentioned again

      The really funny thing is that the correct phrase is 'Jeffersonian Liberal."

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_democracy[^] Jeffersonian Liberal appears to be a term concocted by libertarians who faslely style themselves as "constitutionalists". There was nothing libertarian in the original formulation of our government.

      Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_democracy[^] Jeffersonian Liberal appears to be a term concocted by libertarians who faslely style themselves as "constitutionalists". There was nothing libertarian in the original formulation of our government.

        Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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        You can't even read well, can you? As the article says, Jeffersonian Democracy describes the goals of a particular philosophy of government. Jeffersonian Liberal predates Libertarian as a title (I heard it first in the mid 1950's) and describe the people who believe in that style of governing. Now I wouldn't necessarily takes bets as to your personhood, but I am damn sure that you are not a goal.

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          Johnny ² wrote:

          weren't mentioned again.

          again?? do they come up often in the soap box?


          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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          Johnny
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          Thunderbox666 wrote:

          again?? do they come up often in the soap box?

          About once or twice per thread, with Stan involved.

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          • J Johnny

            Stan Shannon wrote:

            The belief in moderate Muslims, for example. The belief that multi-culturalism is a sustainable attribute of a culture. The belief that morality can be open source. Lots of other nonsense.

            That's probably the dumbest thing I've seen all day. Still, at least Jeffersonian politics weren't mentioned again.

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            Johnny ² wrote:

            That's probably the dumbest thing I've seen all day.

            What? You don't get out much?

            Johnny ² wrote:

            Still, at least Jeffersonian politics weren't mentioned again.

            Mr Shannon is apparently under the delusion that Jefferson ... a rich man, as much an aristocrat as anyone has ever been in America, and *importantly* one who couched his political language in terms of "you and me against the wealthy oppressors" ... would not have been right at home in the modern Democratic Party. Of course, in your case, it seems that you object to hearing about the misnamed "Jeffersonian politics" precisely because you oppose and loathe the political philosophy Mr Shannon means by that phrase.

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              DOZENS of protests against the Church of Scientology across the US, Canada and Western Europe are planned today as part of a campaign organised by the internet group "Anonymous". Anonymous are a loose collection of internet users, including some hackers, who declared "war" on the church last month and temporarily prevented access to at least one official Scientology website. Members of the group organised a worldwide day of protest to coincide with the birthday of Lisa McPherson, who died while in the care of a branch of the church in 1995. Criminal charges filed against the church over Ms McPherson's death were dropped in 2000. A demonstration in central Sydney yesterday drew about 150 people, most of them carrying picket signs and wearing costumes or masks, who accused the church of financially exploiting its members and suppressing free speech. http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189971-5014239,00.html Check top stories on digg http://digg.com Live feed: http://www.qik.com/anonlondon http://flickr.com/photos/23632728@N03/sets/72157603882937341/ We are Anonymous We are Legion We do not Forgive We do not Forget Expect us

              modified on Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:07 PM

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              Might not these anonymous hackers be more honest to call themselves 'Anonymice?'

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              • I Ilion

                Johnny ² wrote:

                That's probably the dumbest thing I've seen all day.

                What? You don't get out much?

                Johnny ² wrote:

                Still, at least Jeffersonian politics weren't mentioned again.

                Mr Shannon is apparently under the delusion that Jefferson ... a rich man, as much an aristocrat as anyone has ever been in America, and *importantly* one who couched his political language in terms of "you and me against the wealthy oppressors" ... would not have been right at home in the modern Democratic Party. Of course, in your case, it seems that you object to hearing about the misnamed "Jeffersonian politics" precisely because you oppose and loathe the political philosophy Mr Shannon means by that phrase.

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                Ilíon wrote:

                What? You don't get out much?

                At 8am at the time of posting, no.

                Ilíon wrote:

                Of course, in your case, it seems that you object to hearing about the misnamed "Jeffersonian politics" precisely because you oppose and loathe the political philosophy Mr Shannon means by that phrase.

                No, I'm just tired of reading the same things over and over.

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                • O Oakman

                  You can't even read well, can you? As the article says, Jeffersonian Democracy describes the goals of a particular philosophy of government. Jeffersonian Liberal predates Libertarian as a title (I heard it first in the mid 1950's) and describe the people who believe in that style of governing. Now I wouldn't necessarily takes bets as to your personhood, but I am damn sure that you are not a goal.

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                  I've never encountered the term "Jeffersonian Liberal" in my life. The only google references I found were all related somehow to libertarians. I've frequently encountered various versions of the phrase "traditional liberal", by which is meant someone who believes in small government, low taxes, private property, religious freedom, etc. But much of that predates Jeffersonian democracy and can be traced further back into the Enlightenment.

                  Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                  • J Johnny

                    Ilíon wrote:

                    What? You don't get out much?

                    At 8am at the time of posting, no.

                    Ilíon wrote:

                    Of course, in your case, it seems that you object to hearing about the misnamed "Jeffersonian politics" precisely because you oppose and loathe the political philosophy Mr Shannon means by that phrase.

                    No, I'm just tired of reading the same things over and over.

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                    Johnny ² wrote:

                    No, I'm just tired of reading the same things over and over.

                    Life is such a bitch, isn't it? Maybe you could say something "new?" Or, at least interesting?

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                    • O Oakman

                      You can't even read well, can you? As the article says, Jeffersonian Democracy describes the goals of a particular philosophy of government. Jeffersonian Liberal predates Libertarian as a title (I heard it first in the mid 1950's) and describe the people who believe in that style of governing. Now I wouldn't necessarily takes bets as to your personhood, but I am damn sure that you are not a goal.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      :) I thought a Jeffersonian Liberal was a president who had sex with an intern and then made reference to Jefferson raping his slaves as a precedent for presidents to engage in said behavior.

                      MrPlankton

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                      • M MrPlankton

                        :) I thought a Jeffersonian Liberal was a president who had sex with an intern and then made reference to Jefferson raping his slaves as a precedent for presidents to engage in said behavior.

                        MrPlankton

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                        Oakman
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                        MrPlankton wrote:

                        I thought a Jeffersonian Liberal was a president who had sex with an intern and then made reference to Jefferson raping his slaves as a precedent for presidents to engage in said behavior

                        Stan was never president, not even of his 7th grade

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