Recruiters: unprofessional?
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Hi guys! My rant of the day... Today I received an email which was sent to my work address. The mail is from a recruiter who contacted me saying that they have job opportunities and even attaching the job descriptions. Nothing particularly annoying. Except for the following facts. 1) I have never published my work address anywhere. It is strict company policy and I follow it. Googling for it returns no results. 2) The person who contacted me found me through LinkedIn.com (we are both members), where I do have a visible profile, but I do not disclose my email address (not even the personal one). 3) I do however mention the company I work for in my profile (duh!). 4) LinkedIn provides an internal messaging service where members can send each other letters without using proper email. Now, this recruiter guessed my email address by trying name.surname@company.com and sent me an email. Ok, it is not hard to guess an address formatted that way, I agree, but... LinkedIn has an internal messaging system! Why did he not use that? LinkedIn is specifically set up so that you put your resumé online and people send you messages using the system! He just had to click a button, but no, he went through the trouble of guessing my email address, opening an email client, and sending me an email. Now I find myself with an unsolicited email in my inbox. Spam, basically. Oops, it went into the trash can. Oh well. I don't deal with unprofessional recruiters. :-)
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This is now my standard response to agents when I either get spam from them or the role is completely () and quite obviously) innapropriate: Remove me from your list: you're obviously far too lazy to bother to take even a cursory glance at my CV which would have told you, amongst other things, that this is quite clearly an inappropriate role to send to me which means that you are not professional in your approach or attitude. If you feel that this is harsh then you come and trawl through the 100 odd emails a day I get from agents that haven't got a clue. This is a standard response. I have recommended this in one of my articles[^] about contracting and I've only had 1 response (detailed in a post a few days ago) from an agent that said something alon the lines of "... well I have to trawl through 500,000 CVs every day..." Took me a while to stop laughing.
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Hi guys! My rant of the day... Today I received an email which was sent to my work address. The mail is from a recruiter who contacted me saying that they have job opportunities and even attaching the job descriptions. Nothing particularly annoying. Except for the following facts. 1) I have never published my work address anywhere. It is strict company policy and I follow it. Googling for it returns no results. 2) The person who contacted me found me through LinkedIn.com (we are both members), where I do have a visible profile, but I do not disclose my email address (not even the personal one). 3) I do however mention the company I work for in my profile (duh!). 4) LinkedIn provides an internal messaging service where members can send each other letters without using proper email. Now, this recruiter guessed my email address by trying name.surname@company.com and sent me an email. Ok, it is not hard to guess an address formatted that way, I agree, but... LinkedIn has an internal messaging system! Why did he not use that? LinkedIn is specifically set up so that you put your resumé online and people send you messages using the system! He just had to click a button, but no, he went through the trouble of guessing my email address, opening an email client, and sending me an email. Now I find myself with an unsolicited email in my inbox. Spam, basically. Oops, it went into the trash can. Oh well. I don't deal with unprofessional recruiters. :-)
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Hi guys! My rant of the day... Today I received an email which was sent to my work address. The mail is from a recruiter who contacted me saying that they have job opportunities and even attaching the job descriptions. Nothing particularly annoying. Except for the following facts. 1) I have never published my work address anywhere. It is strict company policy and I follow it. Googling for it returns no results. 2) The person who contacted me found me through LinkedIn.com (we are both members), where I do have a visible profile, but I do not disclose my email address (not even the personal one). 3) I do however mention the company I work for in my profile (duh!). 4) LinkedIn provides an internal messaging service where members can send each other letters without using proper email. Now, this recruiter guessed my email address by trying name.surname@company.com and sent me an email. Ok, it is not hard to guess an address formatted that way, I agree, but... LinkedIn has an internal messaging system! Why did he not use that? LinkedIn is specifically set up so that you put your resumé online and people send you messages using the system! He just had to click a button, but no, he went through the trouble of guessing my email address, opening an email client, and sending me an email. Now I find myself with an unsolicited email in my inbox. Spam, basically. Oops, it went into the trash can. Oh well. I don't deal with unprofessional recruiters. :-)
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I've got stories from recruiters that would curdle your stomach. Honestly, this would be the least-unprofessional unprofessional behavior I have ever seen anyone complain about regarding recruiters' tactics.
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This is now my standard response to agents when I either get spam from them or the role is completely () and quite obviously) innapropriate: Remove me from your list: you're obviously far too lazy to bother to take even a cursory glance at my CV which would have told you, amongst other things, that this is quite clearly an inappropriate role to send to me which means that you are not professional in your approach or attitude. If you feel that this is harsh then you come and trawl through the 100 odd emails a day I get from agents that haven't got a clue. This is a standard response. I have recommended this in one of my articles[^] about contracting and I've only had 1 response (detailed in a post a few days ago) from an agent that said something alon the lines of "... well I have to trawl through 500,000 CVs every day..." Took me a while to stop laughing.
digital man wrote:
well I have to trawl through 500,000 CVs every day..."
Hyperbole! Dontcha just love it.
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I've got stories from recruiters that would curdle your stomach. Honestly, this would be the least-unprofessional unprofessional behavior I have ever seen anyone complain about regarding recruiters' tactics.
Here's a short agency anecdote I often trot out over "drinks". It was a slow Friday afternoon and the phone rang. "Hello, this is Mr XYZ from ABC agency, just thought I'd phone you to tell we've received your CV, and to let you know WE'RE BIG, in fact we're one of the biggest, a preferred supplier to many of the biggest companies, we're big and will have no problem finding your next contract. We'll be in touch." Never heard from them again :laugh: One of the most unpleasant things about contracting are agents.
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Here's a short agency anecdote I often trot out over "drinks". It was a slow Friday afternoon and the phone rang. "Hello, this is Mr XYZ from ABC agency, just thought I'd phone you to tell we've received your CV, and to let you know WE'RE BIG, in fact we're one of the biggest, a preferred supplier to many of the biggest companies, we're big and will have no problem finding your next contract. We'll be in touch." Never heard from them again :laugh: One of the most unpleasant things about contracting are agents.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Here's a short agency anecdote I often trot out over "drinks".
I had a recruiter borrow $5 from me to eat at McDonald's over what was supposed to be a dinner interview.
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Here's a short agency anecdote I often trot out over "drinks".
I had a recruiter borrow $5 from me to eat at McDonald's over what was supposed to be a dinner interview.
I would have let the SOB starve.
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This is now my standard response to agents when I either get spam from them or the role is completely () and quite obviously) innapropriate: Remove me from your list: you're obviously far too lazy to bother to take even a cursory glance at my CV which would have told you, amongst other things, that this is quite clearly an inappropriate role to send to me which means that you are not professional in your approach or attitude. If you feel that this is harsh then you come and trawl through the 100 odd emails a day I get from agents that haven't got a clue. This is a standard response. I have recommended this in one of my articles[^] about contracting and I've only had 1 response (detailed in a post a few days ago) from an agent that said something alon the lines of "... well I have to trawl through 500,000 CVs every day..." Took me a while to stop laughing.
digital man wrote:
well I have to trawl through 500,000 CVs every day
Our Google crawls through 5 billion webpages per day and is still humble. He should be an empty vessel making more noise.
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Here's a short agency anecdote I often trot out over "drinks".
I had a recruiter borrow $5 from me to eat at McDonald's over what was supposed to be a dinner interview.
IamChrisMcCall wrote:
I had a recruiter borrow $5 from me
We have software houses in India which give missed (blank) calls to candidates and expect them to call back wherein they ask questions. A strange revenue saving for the organization.
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson -
Hi guys! My rant of the day... Today I received an email which was sent to my work address. The mail is from a recruiter who contacted me saying that they have job opportunities and even attaching the job descriptions. Nothing particularly annoying. Except for the following facts. 1) I have never published my work address anywhere. It is strict company policy and I follow it. Googling for it returns no results. 2) The person who contacted me found me through LinkedIn.com (we are both members), where I do have a visible profile, but I do not disclose my email address (not even the personal one). 3) I do however mention the company I work for in my profile (duh!). 4) LinkedIn provides an internal messaging service where members can send each other letters without using proper email. Now, this recruiter guessed my email address by trying name.surname@company.com and sent me an email. Ok, it is not hard to guess an address formatted that way, I agree, but... LinkedIn has an internal messaging system! Why did he not use that? LinkedIn is specifically set up so that you put your resumé online and people send you messages using the system! He just had to click a button, but no, he went through the trouble of guessing my email address, opening an email client, and sending me an email. Now I find myself with an unsolicited email in my inbox. Spam, basically. Oops, it went into the trash can. Oh well. I don't deal with unprofessional recruiters. :-)
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Sometimes we have deaf and hearing-impaired people (!?) as recruiting consultants. I have shared a similar experience to me about two years back here: http://viewsreviews.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/human-resource-telemarketing/[^]
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson