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  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
    1. comprehend would mean percieve or understand 2) apprehend would stand like 'I am afraid' right?

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    Apprehend is learn. It comes from the French word Apprendre. This of course has drifted in meaning from its original and now means to arrest someone, and in the form Apprehension, a state of mild anxiey among others. I stick to its origianl meaning of To Learn if I use it. There are plenty of good words for scared, like, scared. :

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      Apprehend is learn. It comes from the French word Apprendre. This of course has drifted in meaning from its original and now means to arrest someone, and in the form Apprehension, a state of mild anxiey among others. I stick to its origianl meaning of To Learn if I use it. There are plenty of good words for scared, like, scared. :

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      fat_boy wrote:

      Apprehend is learn. It comes from the French word Apprendre. This of course has drifted in meaning from its original and now means to arrest someone, and in the form Apprehension, a state of mild anxiey among others. I stick to its origianl meaning of To Learn if I use it.

      apprehend[^] v.tr. To take into custody; arrest: apprehended the murderer. To grasp mentally; understand: a candidate who apprehends the significance of geopolitical issues. To become conscious of, as through the emotions or senses; perceive. v.intr. To understand something. [Middle English apprehenden, from Old French apprehender, from Latin apprehendere, to seize : ad-, ad- + prehendere, to grasp.]

      In other words, "to arrest" is pretty much the original meaning. The use of the word to mean "mentally grasping" (understanding) is a normal extension of meaning. I don't recall ever encountering the word used to mean "to learn."

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      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
        1. comprehend would mean percieve or understand 2) apprehend would stand like 'I am afraid' right?

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        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

        1. apprehend would stand like 'I am afraid' right?

        No, (in such a context) 'apprehend' means "to understand." Sometimes people use the phrase "I am afraid" to mean something like "I strongly affirm [thus-and-such] in contradistinction to [such-and-such]."

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        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

          Today, I saw a regional magazine here where again there was a report of a young woman was getting obscene emails and harassments because of her profile in Orkut. This is becoming a recurring issue all along. I believe, a significant chunk of countries have brought in a ban on Orkut, the underworld social networking community. When is Google going to dump it since, I apprehend it might become an eye-sore for it, sooner or later.

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          i think orkut has introduced some privacy features which enable you to limit access to only the people you know... but at the end of the day people should be more careful before posting all their personal details in what amounts to a public notice board...

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            Apprehend is learn. It comes from the French word Apprendre. This of course has drifted in meaning from its original and now means to arrest someone, and in the form Apprehension, a state of mild anxiey among others. I stick to its origianl meaning of To Learn if I use it. There are plenty of good words for scared, like, scared. :

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            fat_boy wrote:

            It comes from the French word Apprendre

            Actually the root word is "prendre" which means "to take." Like many words in both English and French, adding "A" as a suffix provides a variant meaning, in this case, "to take in" or "to take to." The definition in French has evolved so that the preferred meaning is now "to learn," although it can also be used to mean "to teach." The English have stayed closer to the original definition but, as usual, have assigned additional meanings to the word. You are correct in suggesting that "apprehend" does not mean to be(come) apprehensive. However, "apprehensive" does not connote the same emotional state as "scared" and the two should not be offered as synonymous.

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            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

              Today, I saw a regional magazine here where again there was a report of a young woman was getting obscene emails and harassments because of her profile in Orkut. This is becoming a recurring issue all along. I believe, a significant chunk of countries have brought in a ban on Orkut, the underworld social networking community. When is Google going to dump it since, I apprehend it might become an eye-sore for it, sooner or later.

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              Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

              a young woman was getting obscene emails and harassments because of her profile in Orkut.

              Balls to that young girl and other assholes over there. What's the point in whining and bitching about obscene emails after you go to a social networking site and publish your private information there? And Google has to dump Orkut for this reason? WTF are you talking about? I am sorry, I am not giving that young girl half a shit.

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                Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                a young woman was getting obscene emails and harassments because of her profile in Orkut.

                Balls to that young girl and other assholes over there. What's the point in whining and bitching about obscene emails after you go to a social networking site and publish your private information there? And Google has to dump Orkut for this reason? WTF are you talking about? I am sorry, I am not giving that young girl half a shit.

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                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                What's the point in whining and bitching ...

                Life is tough; especially when one is a whiney [bad word] ;)

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                  Apprehend is learn. It comes from the French word Apprendre. This of course has drifted in meaning from its original and now means to arrest someone, and in the form Apprehension, a state of mild anxiey among others. I stick to its origianl meaning of To Learn if I use it. There are plenty of good words for scared, like, scared. :

                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  Check this out: http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+apprehend&meta=[^] **Definitions of apprehend on the Web: grok: get the meaning of something; "Do you comprehend the meaning of this letter?" collar: take into custody; "the police nabbed the suspected criminals" anticipate with dread or anxiety wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn**

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                    i think orkut has introduced some privacy features which enable you to limit access to only the people you know... but at the end of the day people should be more careful before posting all their personal details in what amounts to a public notice board...

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    Haroon Sarwar wrote:

                    but at the end of the day people should be more careful before posting all their personal details in what amounts to a public notice board...

                    Definitely. It is everyone's individual responsibility to take care of the issue to ensure that their personal information is not at jeopardy and having a safeguard on them assumes paramount significance in that perspective.

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                    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                      Haroon Sarwar wrote:

                      but at the end of the day people should be more careful before posting all their personal details in what amounts to a public notice board...

                      Definitely. It is everyone's individual responsibility to take care of the issue to ensure that their personal information is not at jeopardy and having a safeguard on them assumes paramount significance in that perspective.

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                      A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                      It is everyone's individual responsibility to take care of the issue to ensure that their personal information is not at jeopardy

                      In other words, Google need not dump Orkut.

                      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                        It is everyone's individual responsibility to take care of the issue to ensure that their personal information is not at jeopardy

                        In other words, Google need not dump Orkut.

                        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                        But there should be some legislation to control and regulate this Social Networking site. We can not expect everyone to assume a self-responsible citizens. There is an important section in Indian pledge which goes like this "India is my country. All Indians are my brothers and sisters. I Love my country. I am proud of its rich and varied culture". Since one sister of mine had been little careless, I can not ignore her and leave her at the brink of catastrophe making her a prey to sh*tty a**h**es. There should be a social responsibility from the social networking site to place a check on the menace right?

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                        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                          But there should be some legislation to control and regulate this Social Networking site. We can not expect everyone to assume a self-responsible citizens. There is an important section in Indian pledge which goes like this "India is my country. All Indians are my brothers and sisters. I Love my country. I am proud of its rich and varied culture". Since one sister of mine had been little careless, I can not ignore her and leave her at the brink of catastrophe making her a prey to sh*tty a**h**es. There should be a social responsibility from the social networking site to place a check on the menace right?

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                          Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                          But there should be some legislation to control and regulate this Social Networking site. We can not expect everyone to assume a self-responsible citizens. There is an important section in Indian pledge which goes like this "India is my country. All Indians are my brothers and sisters. I Love my country. I am proud of its rich and varied culture". Since one sister of mine had been little careless, I can not ignore her and leave her at the brink of catastrophe making her a prey to sh*tty a**h**es. There should be a social responsibility from the social networking site to place a check on the menace right?

                          You see, I wish I could go by that pledge. But then "All Indians" are not my sisters. I mean - if only you understand it.

                          Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                          here should be a social responsibility from the social networking site to place a check on the menace right?

                          The social networking portal's responsibility will be to have a "Don't show my private details to the world" checkbox.

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                          • H Haroon Sarwar

                            i think orkut has introduced some privacy features which enable you to limit access to only the people you know... but at the end of the day people should be more careful before posting all their personal details in what amounts to a public notice board...

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                            Haroon Sarwar wrote:

                            at the end of the day people should be more careful before posting all their personal details in what amounts to a public notice board...

                            In the same series, I'm surprised of the success of Facebook, and how many people are ready to throw their privacy into the public space. I'm not sure they realize all the potential consequences of divulging so much information in the wild.

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                            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                              Today, I saw a regional magazine here where again there was a report of a young woman was getting obscene emails and harassments because of her profile in Orkut. This is becoming a recurring issue all along. I believe, a significant chunk of countries have brought in a ban on Orkut, the underworld social networking community. When is Google going to dump it since, I apprehend it might become an eye-sore for it, sooner or later.

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                              A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                              She should have known better than to post her details on a public forum. Anyway, how difficult is it to delete her profile? I signed up on Orkut in a moment of weakness; it's downright puerile. I don't even know why I still haven't deleted it. :suss:

                              Cheers, Vikram.


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                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                What's the point in whining and bitching ...

                                Life is tough; especially when one is a whiney [bad word] ;)

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                                Ilíon wrote:

                                Life is tough; especially when one is a whiney [bad word]

                                You should know....

                                Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                                • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                  Today, I saw a regional magazine here where again there was a report of a young woman was getting obscene emails and harassments because of her profile in Orkut. This is becoming a recurring issue all along. I believe, a significant chunk of countries have brought in a ban on Orkut, the underworld social networking community. When is Google going to dump it since, I apprehend it might become an eye-sore for it, sooner or later.

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                                  A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                                  Isn't this just payback for the cruddy help desk jobs so many of Orkut's clients do?.

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                                    fat_boy wrote:

                                    Apprehend is learn. It comes from the French word Apprendre. This of course has drifted in meaning from its original and now means to arrest someone, and in the form Apprehension, a state of mild anxiey among others. I stick to its origianl meaning of To Learn if I use it.

                                    apprehend[^] v.tr. To take into custody; arrest: apprehended the murderer. To grasp mentally; understand: a candidate who apprehends the significance of geopolitical issues. To become conscious of, as through the emotions or senses; perceive. v.intr. To understand something. [Middle English apprehenden, from Old French apprehender, from Latin apprehendere, to seize : ad-, ad- + prehendere, to grasp.]

                                    In other words, "to arrest" is pretty much the original meaning. The use of the word to mean "mentally grasping" (understanding) is a normal extension of meaning. I don't recall ever encountering the word used to mean "to learn."

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                                    OK, I know its diddifcult for you, but try to imagine 'mentally grasping'.

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                                      fat_boy wrote:

                                      It comes from the French word Apprendre

                                      Actually the root word is "prendre" which means "to take." Like many words in both English and French, adding "A" as a suffix provides a variant meaning, in this case, "to take in" or "to take to." The definition in French has evolved so that the preferred meaning is now "to learn," although it can also be used to mean "to teach." The English have stayed closer to the original definition but, as usual, have assigned additional meanings to the word. You are correct in suggesting that "apprehend" does not mean to be(come) apprehensive. However, "apprehensive" does not connote the same emotional state as "scared" and the two should not be offered as synonymous.

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                                      I wasnt going to go into that much detail, I just wanted to show him that his use of English is bordering on the ridiculous. Seruisly ridiculous, and making his posts hard to understand. I dont know whether its somehting Indians do alot or not, others I know speak plainly, but there is a temptation in English to use Latin/French based words inplace of Old English words because the speaker feels that to do so is more correct. Of oucrse it is just a pompous affectation that needs stamping on at every opportunity.

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                                      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                        Check this out: http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+apprehend&meta=[^] **Definitions of apprehend on the Web: grok: get the meaning of something; "Do you comprehend the meaning of this letter?" collar: take into custody; "the police nabbed the suspected criminals" anticipate with dread or anxiety wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn**

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                                        Yeah, I know it now means a number of things, thats why I advised you not to use it. Not only is it unneccessarially fancy, it is also ambiguous. If you mean 'fear' then write 'fear'. Do you know 'nice' once meant something bad? And that 'fullsome' that used to be negative a few decades ago is now a compliment? It is always good to avoid words that are ambiguous, or are used wrongly. If possible stick to plain simple English.

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                                          OK, I know its diddifcult for you, but try to imagine 'mentally grasping'.

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                          You're such a fool.

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