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Muslim Medics in the UK Refuse to roll up their sleeves for hygiene

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  • L led mike

    DemonPossessed wrote:

    do you think there is much of a rational debate to be had?

    There always is, see Oakman's post. But I guess you prefer being number two. X|

    led mike

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    led mike wrote:

    There always is

    I could have taken time to respond with a logical argument, but judging from his post, there is not much of a chance he would be interested in rational debate, so I decided not to bother.

    Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      Sounds like a trashy paper trying to create divisions in society by printing scare mongering horror stories that probably have little to no basis in fact. You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

      Good advice, but instead I googled 'Muslim Medics Hygiene" Mirror: Women Muslim medical students are to defy a new rule that they must have bare arms below the elbow during operations - because it is immodest. Telegraph: Muslim medical students are refusing to obey hygiene rules brought in to stop the spread of deadly superbugs, because they ... Foxnews: Muslim women working at UK medical facilities are increasingly refusing to comply with the basic hygiene standard of rolling up their sleeves when their ... Liverpool Echo: Health officials are having crisis talks with Muslim medical staff who have objected to hospital hygiene rules because of religious beliefs. ...

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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      Oakman, you supply the sensational links, now look at this document http://www.his.org.uk/_db/_documents/Rituals-02.doc[^] then you will be better informed.

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        Sounds like a trashy paper trying to create divisions in society by printing scare mongering horror stories that probably have little to no basis in fact. You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

        But, rather than reporting that Jews eat babies, this paper is reporting fact.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        • C Christian Graus

          Sounds like a trashy paper trying to create divisions in society by printing scare mongering horror stories that probably have little to no basis in fact. You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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          Stan Shannon
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          Because everyone knows that our culture is far more likely to produce nazis than muslim culture is likely to produce people who refuse to comply with our standards. We can never be too careful about ourselves, after all. Why any minute now any one of us could suddenly start goose stepping around shouting 'sieg hiel' and all.

          Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=519072&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490[^]

            Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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            Lost User
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            You'd think they could have at least found a stock photo that showed medial staff with exposed forearms! I love some of the words they choose crisis talks superbug Also, they switch between the words "refuse" and "object". I wonder which one it is or if any medial procedures have actually been carried out by people with unwashed forearms.

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              Oakman, you supply the sensational links, now look at this document http://www.his.org.uk/_db/_documents/Rituals-02.doc[^] then you will be better informed.

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              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

              Oakman, you supply the sensational links, now look at this document http://www.his.org.uk/\_db/\_documents/Rituals-02.doc then you will be better informed.

              Actually I supplied the first four news organization links I hit. I am surprised that they are all considered "sensational." How many would I need to supply before it becomes "commonplace?" Since I was linking to stories that were written in the last couple of weeks, I suspect that there will be many more in the new future. I did read the document you linked to and it appears that the Muslim medics and nurses are not following the circa 1999 recomendations promulgated in it. So the stricter standards that have been imposed recently to fight the super-flu bugs are surely being ignored. I suggest you read this document so that "you will be better informed." Royal United Hospital Guidelines It is dated last September, eight years more recent than the one to which you directed me, and since it comes from a hospital, might escape the "sensational" label.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=519072&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490[^]

                Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                Ilion
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                I read about this at least two weeks ago, DinDin. Still, it's amusing watching you and like-minded fellows ;) politely exchange opinions about this :laugh:

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                  I read about this at least two weeks ago, DinDin. Still, it's amusing watching you and like-minded fellows ;) politely exchange opinions about this :laugh:

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                  Ilíon wrote:

                  I read about this at least two weeks ago,

                  Oh no, you got me now. I knew I should have consulted with you before posting this!

                  Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                    Ilíon wrote:

                    I read about this at least two weeks ago,

                    Oh no, you got me now. I knew I should have consulted with you before posting this!

                    Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                    DemonPossessed wrote:

                    Oh no you got me there. I knew I should have consulted with you before posting this!

                    Is there ever a time when you don't act childish?

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                    • I Ilion

                      DemonPossessed wrote:

                      Oh no you got me there. I knew I should have consulted with you before posting this!

                      Is there ever a time when you don't act childish?

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                      You respond to me in your typical manner proudly announcing that since *you* had already seen the news article (as if anyone cares), it was old news. Then you think it is I who is childish since I mock your pathetic self-importance complex? :laugh: Once again all you succeed in demonstrating is that you are profoundly stupid and dense.

                      Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                        You respond to me in your typical manner proudly announcing that since *you* had already seen the news article (as if anyone cares), it was old news. Then you think it is I who is childish since I mock your pathetic self-importance complex? :laugh: Once again all you succeed in demonstrating is that you are profoundly stupid and dense.

                        Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                        Today it seems that you are being pursued by a puppy-boy. You think he wants to go home with you?

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        • O Oakman

                          Today it seems that you are being pursued by a puppy-boy. You think he wants to go home with you?

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Oakman wrote:

                          You think he wants to go home with you?

                          I don't know, maybe he needs an electric anti-bark collar to help him be quiet.

                          Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            You think he wants to go home with you?

                            I don't know, maybe he needs an electric anti-bark collar to help him be quiet.

                            Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            How about a choke collar? :~

                            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=519072&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490[^]

                              Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

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                              Propagating anti Muslim propaganda is objectively helping Al Qaeda.

                              There are two things that one must get used to or one will find life unendurable: the damages of time and injustices of men Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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