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digital man wrote:
There is no purpose.
If 'atheism' were the truth about the nature of reality, this assertion would be true. Fortunately, 'atheism' is a crock.
digital man wrote:
Why do people think there needs to be one? Strange.
Look, you don't even believe this yourself. Witness.[^]
Which is all the more reason to abandon th eillusion that is religion and god and examine the truth of reality through the application of science and logic. God and religion make you stop asking questions cos you think you already have all of the answers.
Deep down, you believe there is someone pasting little gold stars on your "permanent record" ... and that you get more for the mere fact of "seeing through the illusion" that there is meaning to life. You're only playing at being an atheist.
Ilíon wrote:
Deep down, you believe there is someone pasting little gold stars on your "permanent record" ... and that you get more for the mere fact of "seeing through the illusion" that there is meaning to life
We dislike in others what we most dislike in ourselves.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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The purpose of life. Now... lets see if this works http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/UnAnswered.aspx?fid=2605[^] p.s. I wasn't being serious. I thought it was funny that there would be a link to unanswered questions on this forum and decided to have a bit of fun.
Cheers Garth Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints
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From the perspective of some Christians and some Jews I would say Ecclesiastes 12:12-14 pretty much sums it up. Ecclesiastes was King Solomon’s attempt to find happiness by indulging in a wide variety of activities. The last verses of Ecclesiastes is his conclusion after his indulgences. 12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
MrPlankton
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Isn't it just too cute that 'atheists' can't stomach their own assertions about the nature of reality, and so they constantly have to come up with this mystery-monger non-sense?
It's called poetry. It's not meant to be taken literally. None expected you to understand.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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digital man wrote:
There is no purpose.
If 'atheism' were the truth about the nature of reality, this assertion would be true. Fortunately, 'atheism' is a crock.
digital man wrote:
Why do people think there needs to be one? Strange.
Look, you don't even believe this yourself. Witness.[^]
Which is all the more reason to abandon th eillusion that is religion and god and examine the truth of reality through the application of science and logic. God and religion make you stop asking questions cos you think you already have all of the answers.
Deep down, you believe there is someone pasting little gold stars on your "permanent record" ... and that you get more for the mere fact of "seeing through the illusion" that there is meaning to life. You're only playing at being an atheist.
Ilíon wrote:
If 'atheism' were the truth about the nature of reality, this assertion would be true.
It is: prove me wrong.
Ilíon wrote:
Fortunately, 'atheism' is a crock.
Prove it.
Ilíon wrote:
You're only playing at being an atheist.
How so? Atheism represents an objective evaluation of our universe, theism is subjective. From my perspective you have succumbed to an illusion or fantasy that you have chosen to represent your world view and which, at a whim, you can choose to believe or deny anything and, further, ascribe anything that happens to an invisible entity as it suits you. Atheists, on the other hand admit to not having all the answers, revel in seeking them and refuse to ascribe supernatural explanations to anything they don't understand.
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Garth Watkins wrote:
The purpose of life.
To copy and paste your DNA. :laugh: The clipboard never sounded so sexy. [edit] I meant that seriously. Everything about us (and every other creature for that matter) was designed and evolved explicitly for 1) reproducing to perpetuate the species, and 2) to survive long enough to do #1. The purpose of life is to make more copies of you. [/edit]
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
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BoneSoft wrote:
was designed and evolved
How dare you? Designed? Meh! X|
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From the perspective of some Christians and some Jews I would say Ecclesiastes 12:12-14 pretty much sums it up. Ecclesiastes was King Solomon’s attempt to find happiness by indulging in a wide variety of activities. The last verses of Ecclesiastes is his conclusion after his indulgences. 12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
MrPlankton
MrPlankton wrote:
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
That seems to confirm that God is merely our higher judgement, or conscience for those burdened with one.
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Isn't it just too cute that 'atheists' can't stomach their own assertions about the nature of reality, and so they constantly have to come up with this mystery-monger non-sense?
Yeah, every single atheist in the world does this constantly. Why don't they ever do anything logical, rational and sensible[^], like good old pure and righteous God believers[^]?
Richard of York gave battle in vain.
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Garth Watkins wrote:
The purpose of life.
To copy and paste your DNA. :laugh: The clipboard never sounded so sexy. [edit] I meant that seriously. Everything about us (and every other creature for that matter) was designed and evolved explicitly for 1) reproducing to perpetuate the species, and 2) to survive long enough to do #1. The purpose of life is to make more copies of you. [/edit]
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
modified on Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:11 PM
BoneSoft wrote:
To copy and paste your DNA.
Intentionally or not on your part, this response is an equivocation. When people ask "What is the purpose of life?" they are not asking "What is the purpose of biology?" Rather, they are asking "What is the purpose of existence (of anything, and especially of me)?" The response you gave is the "Darwinist" equivocation to the question actually being asked: it's a way to say "There *is* no purpose to your existence" without forthrightly saying that.
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Garth Watkins wrote:
The purpose of life.
"We are a way for the universe to know itself. Some part of our being knows this is where we came from. We long to return. And we can, because the Cosmos is also within us. We're made of star stuff." ~Carl Sagan
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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The fuller life comes from not having to worry there is some thing "god" or whatever you want to call it looking over my shoulder always judging everything I do keeping a list of bad things I do, meaning I don't have to get justification from other like minded people (also duped into believing in some book). Also, why would i need to redeem any "points"? I don't need to keep any score cause i'm happy thinking that this life is what i've been given so I can live it how i want, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else of course. Don't want to push my values on anyone, then again you guys aren't known for that either so i guess it's a null point. You're only plaing at being religious cause you're too scared to admit you're hands not being held in everything you do.
... interesting. Or something. It's hard to tell whether that rambling was due to your piss-poor education or because you're rabid at having it pointed out that there is no point at all to your life ... and having it pointed out that you're too willfully ignorant to recognize that fact. But, let us pretend that all the ridiculous (and false!) things you managed to dump into those few sentences in your two posts are true. Let us pretend that you really do see reality as it really is, whereas I am simply deluded. Then what? Why, then nothing! You and I will both die soon enough, and soon enough after that everyone who knows us and may have loved us will also die. *EVERYTHING* will die, including "the universe," and nothing at all will be left ... were 'atheism' the truth. If 'atheism' really were the truth about the nature of reality, you have no advantage over me, whatsoever, in "seeing through the illusion" that life has meaning. In fact, as a purely objective matter in this very life, you are at a severe disadvantage did you *really* believe what you say you believe. But, you don't actually believe what you say you believe: you imagine that somehow in "seeing through the illusion" that life has any meaning you become superior to such persons as I. You really do believe that there is someone assigning a higher value and meaning to your existence than to mine. You really do imagine that Someone Permanent gives a damn about you! The simple fact is that just like all the other 'atheists' a regular person (such as I) is likely to encounter, you don't *really* believe any of the BS you spout. Moreover, you couldn't function if you did beleive it.
Member 2593477 wrote:
I don't need to keep any score cause i'm happy thinking that this life is what i've been given so I can live it how i want, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else of course.
You pretend 'atheists' are such pussies! If you *really* believed what you say you believe, you'd realize that you don't need to give a flying fuck about "liv[ing] it how i want, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else of course." If you *really* believed what you say you believe, you'd realize that you can do whatever you want to whomever you want whenever you want, and all you need to concern yourself with is not being caught out by the "deluded ones," such as I, who will execute your pathological sorry-ass criminal self without a moment's regret.
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It's called poetry. It's not meant to be taken literally. None expected you to understand.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
All bow to the Wisdom of Worm-Bait!
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
It's called poetry. It's not meant to be taken literally. None expected you to understand.
It's meaningless mystery-mongering, intended to hide the empty skull that you pretend 'atheists' can't face.
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Ilíon wrote:
Deep down, you believe there is someone pasting little gold stars on your "permanent record" ... and that you get more for the mere fact of "seeing through the illusion" that there is meaning to life
We dislike in others what we most dislike in ourselves.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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MrPlankton wrote:
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
That seems to confirm that God is merely our higher judgement, or conscience for those burdened with one.
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I don't know. However that's no cause for worry because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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I remember reading that Sagen quote quite a few months ago here on CP, it may even from you. It made me tingle then and it did it again just now. He was good people that Sagen chap.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I remember reading that Sagen quote quite a few months ago here on CP, it may even from you. It made me tingle then and it did it again just now.
Talk about your cheap thrills! Listen up, "Star-stuff!" You're going to be Worm-Shit long before that worm-shit gets to be star-stuff again.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
He was good people that Sagen chap.
He was a fool who couldn't face up to what he insisted was the truth about the nature of reality.
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... interesting. Or something. It's hard to tell whether that rambling was due to your piss-poor education or because you're rabid at having it pointed out that there is no point at all to your life ... and having it pointed out that you're too willfully ignorant to recognize that fact. But, let us pretend that all the ridiculous (and false!) things you managed to dump into those few sentences in your two posts are true. Let us pretend that you really do see reality as it really is, whereas I am simply deluded. Then what? Why, then nothing! You and I will both die soon enough, and soon enough after that everyone who knows us and may have loved us will also die. *EVERYTHING* will die, including "the universe," and nothing at all will be left ... were 'atheism' the truth. If 'atheism' really were the truth about the nature of reality, you have no advantage over me, whatsoever, in "seeing through the illusion" that life has meaning. In fact, as a purely objective matter in this very life, you are at a severe disadvantage did you *really* believe what you say you believe. But, you don't actually believe what you say you believe: you imagine that somehow in "seeing through the illusion" that life has any meaning you become superior to such persons as I. You really do believe that there is someone assigning a higher value and meaning to your existence than to mine. You really do imagine that Someone Permanent gives a damn about you! The simple fact is that just like all the other 'atheists' a regular person (such as I) is likely to encounter, you don't *really* believe any of the BS you spout. Moreover, you couldn't function if you did beleive it.
Member 2593477 wrote:
I don't need to keep any score cause i'm happy thinking that this life is what i've been given so I can live it how i want, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else of course.
You pretend 'atheists' are such pussies! If you *really* believed what you say you believe, you'd realize that you don't need to give a flying fuck about "liv[ing] it how i want, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else of course." If you *really* believed what you say you believe, you'd realize that you can do whatever you want to whomever you want whenever you want, and all you need to concern yourself with is not being caught out by the "deluded ones," such as I, who will execute your pathological sorry-ass criminal self without a moment's regret.
Ilíon wrote:
If you *really* believed what you say you believe, you'd realize that you can do whatever you want to whomever you want whenever you want, and all you need to concern yourself with is not being caught out by the "deluded ones," such as I, who will execute your pathological sorry-ass criminal self without a moment's regret.
Again, you and your stupid kind are confusing 'atheist' with 'sociopath'. Phh. Did you follow my links to the parents who murdered their children because God told them to? Because they wanted to protect them from Satan? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dena_Schlosser[^] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates[^] Tell me, why would your God do that?
Richard of York gave battle in vain.
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BoneSoft wrote:
To copy and paste your DNA.
Intentionally or not on your part, this response is an equivocation. When people ask "What is the purpose of life?" they are not asking "What is the purpose of biology?" Rather, they are asking "What is the purpose of existence (of anything, and especially of me)?" The response you gave is the "Darwinist" equivocation to the question actually being asked: it's a way to say "There *is* no purpose to your existence" without forthrightly saying that.
You don't understand that 'purpose' doesn't just mean 'why does your God want us here'. Either your God isn't real, or he's a real fucker.
Richard of York gave battle in vain.
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Ah! An 'atheist' who may be about to make the transition to *real* atheism:
Brady Kelly wrote:
... or conscience for those burdened with one.
About to? I've dedicated efforts to eradicate my conscience since the late 90's.
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About to? I've dedicated efforts to eradicate my conscience since the late 90's.
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All bow to the Wisdom of Worm-Bait!
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
It's called poetry. It's not meant to be taken literally. None expected you to understand.
It's meaningless mystery-mongering, intended to hide the empty skull that you pretend 'atheists' can't face.
modified on Friday, March 14, 2008 6:01 AM