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  • I Ilion

    Why? Why do you people get so bent out of shape when other people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse?

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    Brady Kelly
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    How is torturing a baby consistent with atheism?  I don't need a fear of eternal punishment to tell me that causing extreme pain and disfigurement in an innocent child is bad.  You've stooped really low here.

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      Her name is 'China'? Interesting name. Reminds me of that actress, America Ferrera, or whatever it is. It's just so perverted, though. :(

      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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      In SA, everyone's name is 'china', or rather, 'my china'.

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        How is torturing a baby consistent with atheism?  I don't need a fear of eternal punishment to tell me that causing extreme pain and disfigurement in an innocent child is bad.  You've stooped really low here.

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        See, he doesn't understand the concept of helping other people for the sake of it. He thinks it will win him a ticket to eternal salvation, so essentially he is a selfish bastard.

        Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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        • I Ilion

          Why? Why do you people get so bent out of shape when other people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse?

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          soap brain
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          Isn't that right Ilíon? I don't hurt other people because I don't want to, whereas you don't hurt them because your God doesn't want you to? Doesn't that make me a better person than you?

          Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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          • I Ilion

            Why? Why do you people get so bent out of shape when other people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse?

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            soap brain
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            Ilíon, I'm confused. You wrote this; this is your ultimate logic debunking atheism: IF 'materialism' is the truth about the nature of reality, THEN minds (or 'souls' if you prefer that word) cannot exist. BUT minds do exist. THEREFORE, 'materialism' (and 'physicalism,' and 'naturalism,' and 'atheism,' and 'agnosticism') is clearly seen to be false. But I don't get it.

            Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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              In SA, everyone's name is 'china', or rather, 'my china'.

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              Really? Why?

              Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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              • I Ilion

                Why? Why do you people get so bent out of shape when other people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse?

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                Lost User
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                You, Ilíon, are an abusive obnoxious little man. :mad: I was tempted to mark your post as Abuse.

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                  You, Ilíon, are an abusive obnoxious little man. :mad: I was tempted to mark your post as Abuse.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  I did it for you.

                  bin the spin home

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                    How is torturing a baby consistent with atheism?  I don't need a fear of eternal punishment to tell me that causing extreme pain and disfigurement in an innocent child is bad.  You've stooped really low here.

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                    Brady Kelly wrote:

                    How is torturing a baby consistent with atheism?

                    How is it not consistent? If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then there are no such things as right and wrong (or, to write the words consistent with your atheistic metaphysics, "right" and "wrong"). If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then "all things are permissible." If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then no one is responsible for his actions[^], for no one is responsible for *anything* (You children freak out when I point out that in this very piece Mr Dawkins admits to being a liar about the very things he's asserting.)

                    Brady Kelly wrote:

                    You've stooped really low here.

                    No; you *refuse* to think clearly, logically, rationally.

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                    • I Ilion

                      Why? Why do you people get so bent out of shape when other people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse?

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                      soap brain
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                      Ilíon, have you always been like this?

                      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                        Her name is 'China'?

                        Aparently. Her mum probably mistook her for a China Plate, slapped a chicken pie on her and stuck her in.

                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        You do like to dish it out, don't you?

                        bin the spin home

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                        • I Ilion

                          Brady Kelly wrote:

                          How is torturing a baby consistent with atheism?

                          How is it not consistent? If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then there are no such things as right and wrong (or, to write the words consistent with your atheistic metaphysics, "right" and "wrong"). If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then "all things are permissible." If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then no one is responsible for his actions[^], for no one is responsible for *anything* (You children freak out when I point out that in this very piece Mr Dawkins admits to being a liar about the very things he's asserting.)

                          Brady Kelly wrote:

                          You've stooped really low here.

                          No; you *refuse* to think clearly, logically, rationally.

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                          You have no idea what atheism is all about, do you? Kinda funny actually.

                          Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                            You, Ilíon, are an abusive obnoxious little man. :mad: I was tempted to mark your post as Abuse.

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                            Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                            You, Ilíon, are an abusive obnoxious little man. :mad:

                            And you're an ass and a fool: rather than *think* you must resort to lying about me.

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                            I was tempted to mark your post as Abuse.

                            Do it. Do you really imagine I care that fools who refuse to think cannot abide having the truth spoken?

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                              Brady Kelly wrote:

                              How is torturing a baby consistent with atheism?

                              How is it not consistent? If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then there are no such things as right and wrong (or, to write the words consistent with your atheistic metaphysics, "right" and "wrong"). If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then "all things are permissible." If atheism is the truth about the nature of reality, then no one is responsible for his actions[^], for no one is responsible for *anything* (You children freak out when I point out that in this very piece Mr Dawkins admits to being a liar about the very things he's asserting.)

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                              You've stooped really low here.

                              No; you *refuse* to think clearly, logically, rationally.

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                              I refuse to think, so I guess I'll just annoy you.

                              Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                You do like to dish it out, don't you?

                                bin the spin home

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                                :) Couldnt resist, sorry.

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  :) Couldnt resist, sorry.

                                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  dish ... plate ... Oh well, I did try...

                                  bin the spin home

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                                  • I Ilion

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    You, Ilíon, are an abusive obnoxious little man. :mad:

                                    And you're an ass and a fool: rather than *think* you must resort to lying about me.

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    I was tempted to mark your post as Abuse.

                                    Do it. Do you really imagine I care that fools who refuse to think cannot abide having the truth spoken?

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                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    Do it. Do you really imagine I care that fools who refuse to think cannot abide having the truth spoken?

                                    Egocentric righteousness: the natural tendency to feel superior in the light of our confidence that we are in the possession of THE TRUTH.

                                    Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      You, Ilíon, are an abusive obnoxious little man. :mad:

                                      And you're an ass and a fool: rather than *think* you must resort to lying about me.

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      I was tempted to mark your post as Abuse.

                                      Do it. Do you really imagine I care that fools who refuse to think cannot abide having the truth spoken?

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                                      Egocentric infallibility: the natural tendency to think that our beliefs are true because we believe them.

                                      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                        Really? Why?

                                        Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                        China Plate = mate. Cockney rhyming slang. Dog = telephone etc etc etc

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        • I Ilion

                                          Why? Why do you people get so bent out of shape when other people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse?

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                                          Egocentric oversimplification: the natural tendency to ignore real and important complexities in the world in favor of simplistic notions when consideration of those complexities would require us to modify our beliefs or values.

                                          Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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