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  • I Ilion

    is mildly amusing. Look in the mirror, twit.

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    soap brain
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    You called me a 'twit'! :) :rose:

    Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      and you are just a fool. Time for you to crawl back into your hole.

      bin the spin home

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      Ilion
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      Because I'm right and you can't bring yourself to admit it? You people are beyond parody.

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      • I Ilion

        is mildly amusing. Look in the mirror, twit.

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        soap brain
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        Did you ever notice how 'twit' spelled backwards is 'tiwt'? Isn't that cool?

        Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          dish ... plate ... Oh well, I did try...

          bin the spin home

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          digital man wrote:

          dish ... plate ... Oh well, I did try...

          Ohhhhhhh, groooaaaaannn!

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          • I Ilion

            Because I'm right and you can't bring yourself to admit it? You people are beyond parody.

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            soap brain
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            You know what else is beyond parody? Give up? Ya mum!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

            Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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            • I Ilion

              Because I'm right and you can't bring yourself to admit it? You people are beyond parody.

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              soap brain
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              Ilíon wrote:

              Because I'm right and you can't bring yourself to admit it?

              Egocentric righteousness: the natural tendency to feel superior in the light of our confidence that we are in the possession of THE TRUTH.

              Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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              • I Ilion

                Because I'm right and you can't bring yourself to admit it? You people are beyond parody.

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                soap brain
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                Do you think my cat is in heaven? Do cats go to heaven? :confused:

                Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                • I Ilion

                  is mildly amusing. Look in the mirror, twit.

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                  soap brain
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                  Are you getting sick of me pestering you? You just have to tell me to stop, ya know.

                  Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                    I would much prefer to be considered a fool and an ass rather than an abusive obnoxious little man whose humanitarian credentials are akin to "the clap".

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                    Ilion
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                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                    I would much prefer to be considered a fool and an ass rather than an abusive obnoxious little man whose humanitarian credentials are akin to "the clap".

                    Translation: Richard A. Abbott "much prefers to not *think* about what he claims is true and instead prefers to try to insult anyone who does try to think critically. And, if that doesn't get the job done, he'll spount some meaningless froth about 'humanitarianiam.'"

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                      I have to admit, out of all the people with whom I have *arguments* (that is so feeble when you do that) you are by far and away the most completely ignorant, bigoted and just plain thick. You clearly have not a single idea of your own, do not understand anything outside of your own selfish world view, have never read anything other than that which supports your twisted ideals and generally have not got a clue. Even when challenged you shy away and refuse to answer simply asserting that only you know the truth. Well I hope your happy with it. I suspect you are quite alone and very lonely which is sad but you bring it on yourself. In short, you are a fool.

                      bin the spin home

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                      And, since you *know* that all those assertions are false, they are lies and you are a liar (on top of being a fool).

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                        Isn't that right Ilíon? I don't hurt other people because I don't want to, whereas you don't hurt them because your God doesn't want you to? Doesn't that make me a better person than you?

                        Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                        Doesn't that make me a better person than you?

                        Yes, it does. However, that simple fact does not account for all the vast legions of people who can just as freely define morality in a completely different way. Just because you are a good person doesn't place any sort of social obligation upon anyone else to be likewise. Ilion is absolutely correct to point out that in the real world being an individually good person simply is not good enough. You must expect, indeed demand, similar behavior from everyone. Doing that requires some agreed upon standard of social behavior. Now, obviously, such standards could be coded into law (ie "Do not microwave your baby or we will put you in jail"). But just as clearly any kind of legal code that attempted to define every sort of bhevior would be unworkable. A much better system, is to have a population which simply has an agreed upon set of moral principles which they accept on faith as arising from some underlieing set of universally true principles. In that way, you do not need a huge legal system, people would act 'morally' simply because they are taught the difference between right and wrong as deinfed by that grass roots moral perspective. That is the role religion plays within society, and it is an important role.

                        Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                          Doesn't that make me a better person than you?

                          Yes, it does. However, that simple fact does not account for all the vast legions of people who can just as freely define morality in a completely different way. Just because you are a good person doesn't place any sort of social obligation upon anyone else to be likewise. Ilion is absolutely correct to point out that in the real world being an individually good person simply is not good enough. You must expect, indeed demand, similar behavior from everyone. Doing that requires some agreed upon standard of social behavior. Now, obviously, such standards could be coded into law (ie "Do not microwave your baby or we will put you in jail"). But just as clearly any kind of legal code that attempted to define every sort of bhevior would be unworkable. A much better system, is to have a population which simply has an agreed upon set of moral principles which they accept on faith as arising from some underlieing set of universally true principles. In that way, you do not need a huge legal system, people would act 'morally' simply because they are taught the difference between right and wrong as deinfed by that grass roots moral perspective. That is the role religion plays within society, and it is an important role.

                          Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          Yes, it does.

                          No it doesn't. He's a fool and a liar (I'm making two moral assertions, by the way).

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                            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                            Doesn't that make me a better person than you?

                            Yes, it does. However, that simple fact does not account for all the vast legions of people who can just as freely define morality in a completely different way. Just because you are a good person doesn't place any sort of social obligation upon anyone else to be likewise. Ilion is absolutely correct to point out that in the real world being an individually good person simply is not good enough. You must expect, indeed demand, similar behavior from everyone. Doing that requires some agreed upon standard of social behavior. Now, obviously, such standards could be coded into law (ie "Do not microwave your baby or we will put you in jail"). But just as clearly any kind of legal code that attempted to define every sort of bhevior would be unworkable. A much better system, is to have a population which simply has an agreed upon set of moral principles which they accept on faith as arising from some underlieing set of universally true principles. In that way, you do not need a huge legal system, people would act 'morally' simply because they are taught the difference between right and wrong as deinfed by that grass roots moral perspective. That is the role religion plays within society, and it is an important role.

                            Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                            People have always found ways to justify what they do. Plenty of religious people kill, despite everything. Religion is just the clown costume that morality wears when it is taught to kids.

                            Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                            • I Ilion

                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              Yes, it does.

                              No it doesn't. He's a fool and a liar (I'm making two moral assertions, by the way).

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                              I'd rather lie about something I know to be true than to be completely convinced about something that's false. :rolleyes:

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                              • I Ilion

                                And, since you *know* that all those assertions are false, they are lies and you are a liar (on top of being a fool).

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                                *giggles* You're funny! :rose:

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                                • I Ilion

                                  is mildly amusing. Look in the mirror, twit.

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                                  NOT!!! :laugh:

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                                  • I Ilion

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    You, Ilíon, are an abusive obnoxious little man. :mad:

                                    And you're an ass and a fool: rather than *think* you must resort to lying about me.

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    I was tempted to mark your post as Abuse.

                                    Do it. Do you really imagine I care that fools who refuse to think cannot abide having the truth spoken?

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                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    Do you really imagine I care that fools who refuse to think cannot abide having the truth spoken?

                                    Did that jumble of words actully say something? You're a fucking moron who has nothing to say, yet you keep coming back here braying like a donkey. You don't like us, don't fit in here and have one broken record to play, Atheism. Doesn't matter if it fits the bill you just throw out the Atheism card. So just fuck off back to the land of the delusional where you and you religious zealots can figure ou new ways to control morons and didle littl chidren.

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                    • I Ilion

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      I would much prefer to be considered a fool and an ass rather than an abusive obnoxious little man whose humanitarian credentials are akin to "the clap".

                                      Translation: Richard A. Abbott "much prefers to not *think* about what he claims is true and instead prefers to try to insult anyone who does try to think critically. And, if that doesn't get the job done, he'll spount some meaningless froth about 'humanitarianiam.'"

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                                      soap brain
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                                      You seriously believe what you say, don't you... That's sad... :(

                                      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                      • I Ilion

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Yes, it does.

                                        No it doesn't. He's a fool and a liar (I'm making two moral assertions, by the way).

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                                        *poke*

                                        Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                        • I Ilion

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          Yes, it does.

                                          No it doesn't. He's a fool and a liar (I'm making two moral assertions, by the way).

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                                          *poke* *poke*

                                          Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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