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      Doesnt matter if it isnt, and it could well be since it is about Holland, its still makes a pwerfull point about Islamicisation. Got to say though that the Dutch, once again, are leading the west. They have balls those guys. Thanks for posting it.

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        Doesnt matter if it isnt, and it could well be since it is about Holland, its still makes a pwerfull point about Islamicisation. Got to say though that the Dutch, once again, are leading the west. They have balls those guys. Thanks for posting it.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        When I posted the link, I was still waiting for it to download (it took forever), so I still hadn't seen it myself. Now that I've seen it, I do not doubt that it is Wilders' film. It's also pretty much what I expected. I mean, it's not as though a 15-minute documentary on Islamization is likely to come up with a new bomb-shell fact that hasn't been obvious to anyone awake during the past few years. One has to *choose* to be oblivious to certain things. *Some* Dutch have balls, many of them do not (same as here); many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here). :sigh:

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          Doesnt matter if it isnt, and it could well be since it is about Holland, its still makes a pwerfull point about Islamicisation. Got to say though that the Dutch, once again, are leading the west. They have balls those guys. Thanks for posting it.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          Dutch: Mass Immigration Our Biggest Mistake Ever[^]

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            When I posted the link, I was still waiting for it to download (it took forever), so I still hadn't seen it myself. Now that I've seen it, I do not doubt that it is Wilders' film. It's also pretty much what I expected. I mean, it's not as though a 15-minute documentary on Islamization is likely to come up with a new bomb-shell fact that hasn't been obvious to anyone awake during the past few years. One has to *choose* to be oblivious to certain things. *Some* Dutch have balls, many of them do not (same as here); many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here). :sigh:

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            I would be so disappointed were my fans to ever stop behaving as mindless zombies. :laugh:

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              It was fairly underwhelming, for all the hype. Geert must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.

              Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                When I posted the link, I was still waiting for it to download (it took forever), so I still hadn't seen it myself. Now that I've seen it, I do not doubt that it is Wilders' film. It's also pretty much what I expected. I mean, it's not as though a 15-minute documentary on Islamization is likely to come up with a new bomb-shell fact that hasn't been obvious to anyone awake during the past few years. One has to *choose* to be oblivious to certain things. *Some* Dutch have balls, many of them do not (same as here); many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here). :sigh:

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                Ilíon wrote:

                many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here).

                You don't make much effort to change that. And no, simply insisting that we are all 'fools' actually ISN'T that helpful. Also, insisting that we already know the truth and simply do not accept it ISN'T helpful either. Also, selectively answering only those things which you feel comfortable answering ISN'T helpful either. Also, talking like you're better than everyone ISN'T helpful either - it's dense, and very annoying. Also, your assertions about atheists are very unrealistic and ill-informed, so don't do it - you're only making yourself look like a hypocrite. Also, if God designed humans, he did a shitty job: weak spine, vestigial tail-bone and appendix and wisdom teeth and 'third eyelid' and goosebumps, sinuses that don't drain properly, bad skin, and so on. Also, don't flatter yourself - you're not God's prophet. He would have chosen someone interesting, and intelligent. And feel free to not respond to this. Or, alternatively, cut-and-paste one of your half-a-dozen boring, formulaic responses. Use *fool* as often as you want to, and make sure you don't forget to mention that I refuse to see the *truth*. Actually, *you* *should* *cram* *in* *as* *many* *asterisks* *as* *you* *can*.

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                  Ilíon wrote:

                  many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here).

                  You don't make much effort to change that. And no, simply insisting that we are all 'fools' actually ISN'T that helpful. Also, insisting that we already know the truth and simply do not accept it ISN'T helpful either. Also, selectively answering only those things which you feel comfortable answering ISN'T helpful either. Also, talking like you're better than everyone ISN'T helpful either - it's dense, and very annoying. Also, your assertions about atheists are very unrealistic and ill-informed, so don't do it - you're only making yourself look like a hypocrite. Also, if God designed humans, he did a shitty job: weak spine, vestigial tail-bone and appendix and wisdom teeth and 'third eyelid' and goosebumps, sinuses that don't drain properly, bad skin, and so on. Also, don't flatter yourself - you're not God's prophet. He would have chosen someone interesting, and intelligent. And feel free to not respond to this. Or, alternatively, cut-and-paste one of your half-a-dozen boring, formulaic responses. Use *fool* as often as you want to, and make sure you don't forget to mention that I refuse to see the *truth*. Actually, *you* *should* *cram* *in* *as* *many* *asterisks* *as* *you* *can*.

                  Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                  Nicely put: expect a dull rant in return: you are wrong becuase he says you are wrong which makes you wrong becuase he says... oh shit, I'm going to be sick...

                  bin the spin home

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                    When I posted the link, I was still waiting for it to download (it took forever), so I still hadn't seen it myself. Now that I've seen it, I do not doubt that it is Wilders' film. It's also pretty much what I expected. I mean, it's not as though a 15-minute documentary on Islamization is likely to come up with a new bomb-shell fact that hasn't been obvious to anyone awake during the past few years. One has to *choose* to be oblivious to certain things. *Some* Dutch have balls, many of them do not (same as here); many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here). :sigh:

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                    Ilíon wrote:

                    *Some* Dutch have balls, many of them do not (same as here); many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here).

                    I take it you say that based on a knowledge and familiarity with the Dutch people?

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      It was fairly underwhelming, for all the hype. Geert must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.

                      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      It was fairly underwhelming, for all the hype.

                      And what hype was that? The only hype about 'Fitna' that I'm aware of is the hyper-caterwauling about it by Muslims, and the cringing abasement before that caterwauling by the "elites" of government and commerce. You know, the whole "sensitivity" charade.

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                      Geert must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.

                      Spoken like a born-slave (that's a classical pagan allusion) or a dhimmi. It is certainly true that there are things in this world which are not worth dying for. But, in *this* context, to make such a statement is to claim that freedom, and honor, and indeed life itself, are not worth dying for. In short, only a fool could believe such a thing.

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                        Nicely put: expect a dull rant in return: you are wrong becuase he says you are wrong which makes you wrong becuase he says... oh shit, I'm going to be sick...

                        bin the spin home

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                        Were you always like this?

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                          Ilíon wrote:

                          *Some* Dutch have balls, many of them do not (same as here); many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here).

                          I take it you say that based on a knowledge and familiarity with the Dutch people?

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          I take it you say that based on a knowledge and familiarity with the Dutch people?

                          Perhaps just with Dutch balls?

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            Over 50% of Rotterdam is Muslem. Since they havent taken up Dutch culture, thats a mistake. I am all in favour of a a bit of cultural mixing, with the best bits being taken, but forming sub cuiltures is a disaster. And if thats the result of Islamic immigration (and it isnt always so) then it must be reversed.

                            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              It was fairly underwhelming, for all the hype. Geert must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.

                              Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                              must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.

                              There is nothing in the world worth dying for. However, sometimes its good to kill other people because they DO think there is something worth dying for. To do so merely satisfies their logic so is actually an act of kindness.

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                I take it you say that based on a knowledge and familiarity with the Dutch people?

                                Perhaps just with Dutch balls?

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                Perhaps just with Dutch balls?

                                So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name? For, after all, it was he who brought "balls" into the matter. Or, is this just another instance of your typical dishonesty?

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                                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                  must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.

                                  There is nothing in the world worth dying for. However, sometimes its good to kill other people because they DO think there is something worth dying for. To do so merely satisfies their logic so is actually an act of kindness.

                                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  fat_boy wrote:

                                  There is nothing in the world worth dying for.

                                  Only a fool.

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                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    many of them want to insist that reality is other than it is (same as here); many of them would rather "kill the messenger" (same as here).

                                    You don't make much effort to change that. And no, simply insisting that we are all 'fools' actually ISN'T that helpful. Also, insisting that we already know the truth and simply do not accept it ISN'T helpful either. Also, selectively answering only those things which you feel comfortable answering ISN'T helpful either. Also, talking like you're better than everyone ISN'T helpful either - it's dense, and very annoying. Also, your assertions about atheists are very unrealistic and ill-informed, so don't do it - you're only making yourself look like a hypocrite. Also, if God designed humans, he did a shitty job: weak spine, vestigial tail-bone and appendix and wisdom teeth and 'third eyelid' and goosebumps, sinuses that don't drain properly, bad skin, and so on. Also, don't flatter yourself - you're not God's prophet. He would have chosen someone interesting, and intelligent. And feel free to not respond to this. Or, alternatively, cut-and-paste one of your half-a-dozen boring, formulaic responses. Use *fool* as often as you want to, and make sure you don't forget to mention that I refuse to see the *truth*. Actually, *you* *should* *cram* *in* *as* *many* *asterisks* *as* *you* *can*.

                                    Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                    if God designed humans

                                    If god exists, he doesnt, or isnt a god. Thats some Iliogical thinking from the aethists side!

                                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                      "The Eternal Jew" of today, the islamic version. Nazis are back - Different clothes, but same people with the same methods.

                                      When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                                      Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                        Doesnt matter if it isnt, and it could well be since it is about Holland, its still makes a pwerfull point about Islamicisation. Got to say though that the Dutch, once again, are leading the west. They have balls those guys. Thanks for posting it.

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        fat_boy wrote:

                                        Got to say though that the Dutch, once again, are leading the west.

                                        I hope not. We don't need this kind of fascist scum to come back again. These guys want to propagate violence to take opportunity of the troubles. Evil bastards.

                                        I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                          "The Eternal Jew" of today, the islamic version. Nazis are back - Different clothes, but same people with the same methods.

                                          When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                                          Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                          And you a willfully self-deluded fool. Alternately, you might be a Muslim practicing taqiyyah, or a soon-to-be dhimmi in fact, and not merely in attitude.

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