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So, what to do with those pesky Muslems?

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  • I Ilion

    Ro0ke wrote:

    There is no need to get defensive.

    As you've surely been informed, I'm *offensive* (not defensive).

    Ro0ke wrote:

    As I understand it now, you don't actually believe that.

    And I never said that I did, I took no position one way or another. ... Though, I *did* imply that I believed that such would not be a positive or desirable thing.

    Ro0ke wrote:

    ... you're over-analyzing it.

    Occupational (and social) hazard, I suppose. I'm a programmer: I analyze. I'm widely (even if shallowly) read; and I assume that other people generally do mean to write just what they write, same as I do. You say that I misinterpreted what you meant. I am willing to accept that I may well have done: so, I apologize for reacting as I did.

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    Vincent Reynolds
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    Ilíon wrote:

    I'm widely (even if shallowly) read

    This is probably a consequence of your wide and shallow writing.

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    • I Ilion

      on all accusations.

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      soap brain
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      I know that *liar* is the new *fool*, but I'm not lying when I say that you're a boring idiot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex_%28self-concept%29[^]

      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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        Ilíon wrote:

        I'm widely (even if shallowly) read

        This is probably a consequence of your wide and shallow writing.

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        Vincent Reynolds wrote:

        **Ilíon:**I'm widely (even if shallowly) read . Vincent Reynolds: This is probably a consequence of your wide and shallow writing.

        If you want to try to insult someone, it is of no help (to your case) to demonstrate in the "insult" your own inability to reason logically. :doh: You poor, pathetic thing. :(( :sigh:

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        • I Ilion

          Ro0ke wrote:

          There is no need to get defensive.

          As you've surely been informed, I'm *offensive* (not defensive).

          Ro0ke wrote:

          As I understand it now, you don't actually believe that.

          And I never said that I did, I took no position one way or another. ... Though, I *did* imply that I believed that such would not be a positive or desirable thing.

          Ro0ke wrote:

          ... you're over-analyzing it.

          Occupational (and social) hazard, I suppose. I'm a programmer: I analyze. I'm widely (even if shallowly) read; and I assume that other people generally do mean to write just what they write, same as I do. You say that I misinterpreted what you meant. I am willing to accept that I may well have done: so, I apologize for reacting as I did.

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          Ro0ke
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          Ilíon wrote:

          Occupational (and social) hazard, I suppose. I'm a programmer: I analyze.

          Good point.

          Ilíon wrote:

          You say that I misinterpreted what you meant. I am willing to accept that I may well have done: so, I apologize for reacting as I did.

          No problem. One of the most difficult things about holding a discussion on the internet is the lack of immediate feedback. Words can be taken out of context very easily, as I did with your original comment.

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          • I Ilion

            Vincent Reynolds wrote:

            **Ilíon:**I'm widely (even if shallowly) read . Vincent Reynolds: This is probably a consequence of your wide and shallow writing.

            If you want to try to insult someone, it is of no help (to your case) to demonstrate in the "insult" your own inability to reason logically. :doh: You poor, pathetic thing. :(( :sigh:

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            soap brain
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            You love that word, 'logic', don't you... I hope that superior glow doesn't wear off too soon.

            Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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            • R Ro0ke

              Ilíon wrote:

              Occupational (and social) hazard, I suppose. I'm a programmer: I analyze.

              Good point.

              Ilíon wrote:

              You say that I misinterpreted what you meant. I am willing to accept that I may well have done: so, I apologize for reacting as I did.

              No problem. One of the most difficult things about holding a discussion on the internet is the lack of immediate feedback. Words can be taken out of context very easily, as I did with your original comment.

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              Ilion
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              Ro0ke wrote:

              Good point.

              Aw, shucks. It's just a talent. ;) ( :laugh: at myself )

              Ro0ke wrote:

              One of the most difficult things about holding a discussion on the internet is the lack of immediate feedback. Words can be taken out of context very easily,

              Yes. That's why I strive always to be very precise in what I write. Of course I don't always manage to say exactly what I mean, but I usually do.

              Ro0ke wrote:

              Words can be taken out of context very easily, as I did with your original comment.

              :rose: I do make a conscious effort to see and treat everyone I encounter as an individual, to not react to Person X on the basis of anything Persons A, B, and C have done. But, and even though I make a conscious effort to ignore the constant asinine pile-ups from Persons A, B, and C, I am human: weak, easily misguided/distracted, etc, etc. It was obvious that you took what I said out of context. But I erred in imputing intentionality to you in this. I further erred (a moral error, not merely a mistake) in treating you as though I had good reason to believe you were just one more of those who intentionally distort and "misunderstand" what I say. Again, I am sorry.

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              • I Ilion

                Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                **Ilíon:**I'm widely (even if shallowly) read . Vincent Reynolds: This is probably a consequence of your wide and shallow writing.

                If you want to try to insult someone, it is of no help (to your case) to demonstrate in the "insult" your own inability to reason logically. :doh: You poor, pathetic thing. :(( :sigh:

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                Ilíon wrote:

                If you want to try to insult someone, it is of no help (to your case) to demonstrate in the "insult" your own inability to reason logically.

                Logical reasoning? :laugh: My insult was based on simple observation. It doesn't take Aristotle to recognize you as a second-rate sophist. An accomplished sophist would at least display a modicum of wit in order to entertain. It amazes me that you, a demonstrated half-wit, have yet to be even half witty.

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                  I know that *liar* is the new *fool*, but I'm not lying when I say that you're a boring idiot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex_%28self-concept%29[^]

                  Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                  Ravel, he's mentally ill. Pestering him isn't going to do anything to help him.


                  Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.

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                    Ravel, he's mentally ill. Pestering him isn't going to do anything to help him.


                    Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.

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                    soap brain
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                    Who says I want to help him? I just want to annoy him. :)

                    Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                    • I Ilion

                      Ro0ke wrote:

                      Good point.

                      Aw, shucks. It's just a talent. ;) ( :laugh: at myself )

                      Ro0ke wrote:

                      One of the most difficult things about holding a discussion on the internet is the lack of immediate feedback. Words can be taken out of context very easily,

                      Yes. That's why I strive always to be very precise in what I write. Of course I don't always manage to say exactly what I mean, but I usually do.

                      Ro0ke wrote:

                      Words can be taken out of context very easily, as I did with your original comment.

                      :rose: I do make a conscious effort to see and treat everyone I encounter as an individual, to not react to Person X on the basis of anything Persons A, B, and C have done. But, and even though I make a conscious effort to ignore the constant asinine pile-ups from Persons A, B, and C, I am human: weak, easily misguided/distracted, etc, etc. It was obvious that you took what I said out of context. But I erred in imputing intentionality to you in this. I further erred (a moral error, not merely a mistake) in treating you as though I had good reason to believe you were just one more of those who intentionally distort and "misunderstand" what I say. Again, I am sorry.

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                      soap brain
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                      Ilíon wrote:

                      I am human: weak, easily misguided/distracted, etc, etc.

                      Don't forget idiotic. And hypocritical. And smug. And pompous. And big-headed. And dense. :) :rose:

                      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        How are musliims and islam perceived there? Are they more integrated? Are they as vocal as they are in Europe? Do they try and blow things up? Are the immams at the mosques spewing at hate-filled bile to their congregations?

                        bin the spin home

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                        They are very integrated, since many of them were among the founding settlers of this country.  There were a few Muslim bombings of American origin restaurants etc. many years ago, but that was a small. radical splinter group.  I've never been to a mosque, but when colleagues used to go Friday lunchtimes, they seemed to come back in good spirit, so I doubt the immam tried any indoctrination.

                        Pits fall into Chuck Norris.

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