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  • P Paul Watson

    As opposed to your dramatic and irrelevant automobile comment. Call us both fools then.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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    Ilion
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    Paul Watson wrote:

    Call us both fools then.

    It's logically impossible to split the difference between error (your position, in case you're having trouble with the concept) and not-error (my position).

    Paul Watson wrote:

    As opposed to your dramatic and irrelevant automobile comment.

    Drama? Please! It was a reductio ad absurdum; it was a test of assumptions and "logic" you are employing. And, in case you're still having difficulty with this, the assumptions and "logic" you are employing failed the test.

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      Paul Watson wrote:

      Call us both fools then.

      It's logically impossible to split the difference between error (your position, in case you're having trouble with the concept) and not-error (my position).

      Paul Watson wrote:

      As opposed to your dramatic and irrelevant automobile comment.

      Drama? Please! It was a reductio ad absurdum; it was a test of assumptions and "logic" you are employing. And, in case you're still having difficulty with this, the assumptions and "logic" you are employing failed the test.

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      Ilíon wrote:

      you are employing failed the test.

      I called you a name. You should have given up long ago. I am on two weeks holidays and can sit here for hours idly responding to your high-falluting responses.

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

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        Ilíon wrote:

        you are employing failed the test.

        I called you a name. You should have given up long ago. I am on two weeks holidays and can sit here for hours idly responding to your high-falluting responses.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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        Paul Watson wrote:

        I called you a name.

        You're kidding! But, apparently, you're as willfully obtuse as so many of the other fine communitarians of this Soapbox. Please! Surely even a such bright light as yourself ought to be able to grasp that I would never refer to a minor attempt at insult as logic (or, as the case was, as "logic"). Here, let me try to put this in small words so maybe you can see: the "logic" of your first post fails the laugh test. Also, your toy insult didn't insult me, but that was another thing.

        Paul Watson wrote:

        I am on two weeks holidays and can sit here for hours idly responding to your high-falluting responses.

        And I do not doubt that doing so is all the meaning, and quite possibly all the enjoyment, your life for at least the next two weeks will have.

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          Paul Watson wrote:

          I called you a name.

          You're kidding! But, apparently, you're as willfully obtuse as so many of the other fine communitarians of this Soapbox. Please! Surely even a such bright light as yourself ought to be able to grasp that I would never refer to a minor attempt at insult as logic (or, as the case was, as "logic"). Here, let me try to put this in small words so maybe you can see: the "logic" of your first post fails the laugh test. Also, your toy insult didn't insult me, but that was another thing.

          Paul Watson wrote:

          I am on two weeks holidays and can sit here for hours idly responding to your high-falluting responses.

          And I do not doubt that doing so is all the meaning, and quite possibly all the enjoyment, your life for at least the next two weeks will have.

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          Ilíon wrote:

          And I do not doubt that doing so is all the meaning, and quite possibly all the enjoyment, your life for at least the next two weeks will have.

          Well, well, aren't we the day's judgment.

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

          At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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            Ilíon wrote:

            And I do not doubt that doing so is all the meaning, and quite possibly all the enjoyment, your life for at least the next two weeks will have.

            Well, well, aren't we the day's judgment.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

            At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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            You promised, at least by implication, to reveal some truth or other about me. So far, you've asserted that I am an idiot[^], while assuring me that no offense was intended. I assured you that no offence was given[^] and wondered whether it is even possible for one such as you to give offense. You claimed that you could give offense[^], as a simple matter revealing the truth about me. In fear and trepidation[^] (for, surely you know your own capabilities), I asked for some of this truth about myself. Apparently ... in your little world[^] ... if you recognize your own foolishness, that equates to me also being a fool. I pointed out the flaw in that reasoning[^] and you informed me that you had called me a name[^]. That's pretty much where we started, isn't it? And still, we're waiting for this truth ... it seems now fair to say alleged truth ... about me. Tsk!

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            • P Paul Watson

              You are an idiot, aren't you? No offense meant, just an observation.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

              At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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              And Paul wins this years 'shooting fish in a barrel' award! :laugh:

              Rob Manderson My bloghttp://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                You promised, at least by implication, to reveal some truth or other about me. So far, you've asserted that I am an idiot[^], while assuring me that no offense was intended. I assured you that no offence was given[^] and wondered whether it is even possible for one such as you to give offense. You claimed that you could give offense[^], as a simple matter revealing the truth about me. In fear and trepidation[^] (for, surely you know your own capabilities), I asked for some of this truth about myself. Apparently ... in your little world[^] ... if you recognize your own foolishness, that equates to me also being a fool. I pointed out the flaw in that reasoning[^] and you informed me that you had called me a name[^]. That's pretty much where we started, isn't it? And still, we're waiting for this truth ... it seems now fair to say alleged truth ... about me. Tsk!

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                Boy, you did a lot of work for that response. Good for you.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Boy, you did a lot of work for that response. Good for you.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  Boy, you did a lot of work for that response. Good for you.

                  Really, the 'copy and paste' function is all but effortless to use. The underlying technique of it seems to be based upon your mode of ratiocination.

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Ilíon wrote:

                    you are employing failed the test.

                    I called you a name. You should have given up long ago. I am on two weeks holidays and can sit here for hours idly responding to your high-falluting responses.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                    73Zeppelin
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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    I called you a name.

                    Proper taxonomy isn't an insult.


                    Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.

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                    • R Rob Manderson

                      And Paul wins this years 'shooting fish in a barrel' award! :laugh:

                      Rob Manderson My bloghttp://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                      You children! :laugh:

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                      • 7 73Zeppelin

                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        I called you a name.

                        Proper taxonomy isn't an insult.


                        Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.

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                        So, instead of calling you "73DipStick" we should all use the proper taxonomy: "73DipShít?"

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                          should he need to defend himself, he would otherwise be capable of doing so.

                          Heck, I'm 28 and would have a difficult time using a gun to defend myself. And you can do all the target practice you want with a gun, I very much doubt it prepares you for the fear and panic of a situation in which you have to defend your life.

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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          And you can do all the target practice you want with a gun, I very much doubt it prepares you for the fear and panic of a situation in which you have to defend your life.

                          You're not wrong, but it helps.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Boy, you did a lot of work for that response. Good for you.

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                            At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                            Of course, you use the mental equivalent of duct tape for the paste step of your copy-and-paste-ratiocination, don't you?

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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Boy, you did a lot of work for that response. Good for you.

                              Really, the 'copy and paste' function is all but effortless to use. The underlying technique of it seems to be based upon your mode of ratiocination.

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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              ratiocination

                              You are better than Dictionary.com's Word Of The Day.

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                              At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                And you can do all the target practice you want with a gun, I very much doubt it prepares you for the fear and panic of a situation in which you have to defend your life.

                                You're not wrong, but it helps.

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                You're not wrong, but it helps.

                                Which is to say, since target practice *does* help to prepare you for such a situation of having to use a gun to defend your life, he was not right.

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                                • P Paul Watson

                                  A 7-year-old first-grader showed up at school Monday with two loaded handguns

                                  Apparently he found them at his uncle's house and thought they were toys. I'm pretty sure there are laws that make it the responsibility of the gun owner to keep them in a safe place, out of the reach of the innocent.

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  Apparently he found them at his uncle's house and thought they were toys. I'm pretty sure there are laws that make it the responsibility of the gun owner to keep them in a safe place, out of the reach of the innocent.

                                  Assuming that there were laws that he broke - is the solution to pass more laws? And if he breaks them?

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    ratiocination

                                    You are better than Dictionary.com's Word Of The Day.

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                    Amazing, isn't it? And I even manage to use the words correctly.

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                                    • I Ilion

                                      So, instead of calling you "73DipStick" we should all use the proper taxonomy: "73DipShít?"

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                                      :zzz: You are vacuous, apostate.


                                      Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.

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                                        Paul Watson wrote:

                                        Apparently he found them at his uncle's house and thought they were toys. I'm pretty sure there are laws that make it the responsibility of the gun owner to keep them in a safe place, out of the reach of the innocent.

                                        Assuming that there were laws that he broke - is the solution to pass more laws? And if he breaks them?

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        is the solution to pass more laws?

                                        I very much doubt that is the solution.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                          Amazing, isn't it? And I even manage to use the words correctly.

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                                          Ilíon wrote:

                                          And I even manage to use the words correctly. Quote Selected Text

                                          How else could one use them?

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                          At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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