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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    More pabulum for the rabble.


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    Oakman
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    73Zeppelin wrote:

    More pabulum for the rabble

    I wonder who gave you a 1. I mean, I can understand not going higher than a 4 because of mixed metaphors, but . . . Anyway I balanced it.

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      It's "P-A-B-L-U-M". Learn how to spell if you're going to use the word :-D Geez

      John P.

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      73Zeppelin
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      Merriam and Webster disagree with you[^]. :-D


      And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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        73Zeppelin wrote:

        More pabulum for the rabble

        I wonder who gave you a 1. I mean, I can understand not going higher than a 4 because of mixed metaphors, but . . . Anyway I balanced it.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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        73Zeppelin
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        I'm sure it was either Assnan, or Ilidiot ... they're, like, my groupies or something. X|


        And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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        • 7 73Zeppelin

          Merriam and Webster disagree with you[^]. :-D


          And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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          73Zeppelin wrote:

          Merriam and Webster disagree with you[^].

          With good reason. Pablum is a trademarked brand name that was deliberately misspelled. The product is presently owned by John Kerry's wife's company. IMHO, it makes great good sense for a woman who married two U.S. Senators to be offering for sale something called "Pablum."

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            I'm sure it was either Assnan, or Ilidiot ... they're, like, my groupies or something. X|


            And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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            73Zeppelin wrote:

            they're, like, my groupies or something

            Makes sure you don't give them your home address. ;)

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            • O Oakman

              Wow, did I learn a lot! 1. Ben Stein, in addition to hosting gaming shows and selling eye wash, makes movies. 2. Darwin was responsible for the Holocaust! 3. Because Darwin never dealt with why cells evolve but only the fact that they do evolve, he was an atheist and is responsible for the Eugenics atrocities of the NAZIs. (It's not clear whether he is also responsible for Khan Noonien Singh and his cronies.) 4. People who do not like their work being plagiarized by Ben Stein are violating the First Amendment. 5. All you have to do to discover the true meaning of freedom (I bet you didn't even know you didn't know it) is visit the Jefferson and Washington Memorials and read the inscriptions* 6. Atheists all want to be God. Which, I guess, explains why they don't believe in Him...er...um...Does that mean they think they themselves don't exist??? 7. People who believe in the Theory of Evolution and reject the universe-was-created-4,927-years-ago-in-6-days-and-a-nap stuff are just like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. * You won't see the actual words that Jefferson wrote, by the way, but an edited-for-content version :) I wonder if Ben knew that. . .

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              Oakman wrote:

              2. Darwin was responsible for the Holocaust! 3. Because Darwin never dealt with why cells evolve but only the fact that they do evolve, he was an atheist and is responsible for the Eugenics atrocities of the NAZIs. (It's not clear whether he is also responsible for Khan Noonien Singh and his cronies.)

              Why is it when something the left embraces points in an inconvient direction, it is to be entirely ignored and erased from history, while at the same time every possible historic link between conservatism and every bad thing ever done trhough out history is carved in stone and promoted incessantly by every educational and media institution in our society?

              Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                This is fascinating: the creationists criticize "Darwinism" for drawing moral, social and political implications out of the Theory of Evolution (e.g.: Spencer's Social Darwinism, etc). But then what do they do? Exactly the same in another way: Materialism is a philosophy that holds that the only thing that can be proven to exist is matter. In general terms, Darwinism relies on materialism, to the exclusion of dualism, pluralism, and idealism. Intelligent Design, by contrast, relies on consciousness in the realm of phenomenal reality, to explain that which cannot be explained by matter. I don't care about "materialism vs. consciousness" bullshit. That's metaphysical crap that doesn't belong to science. Evolution is an observed fact, not metaphysics.


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                Diego Moita wrote:

                That's metaphysical crap that doesn't belong to science. Evolution is an observed fact, not metaphysics.

                So, not only is religion to be swept up into the dust bin of history,but so is every other possible competive philosophy? Wow, where is our respect for diversity?

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                  Oakman wrote:

                  2. Darwin was responsible for the Holocaust! 3. Because Darwin never dealt with why cells evolve but only the fact that they do evolve, he was an atheist and is responsible for the Eugenics atrocities of the NAZIs. (It's not clear whether he is also responsible for Khan Noonien Singh and his cronies.)

                  Why is it when something the left embraces points in an inconvient direction, it is to be entirely ignored and erased from history, while at the same time every possible historic link between conservatism and every bad thing ever done trhough out history is carved in stone and promoted incessantly by every educational and media institution in our society?

                  Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Why is it when something the left embraces points in an inconvient direction, it is to be entirely ignored and erased from history, while at the same time every possible historic link between conservatism and every bad thing ever done trhough out history is carved in stone and promoted incessantly by every educational and media institution in our society?

                  Got me, chief. I'm just telling you what I learned at Ilidgit's new favorite site. That where it says that Darwin is responsible for the NAZI eugenics experiements.

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                  • O Oakman

                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    Why is it when something the left embraces points in an inconvient direction, it is to be entirely ignored and erased from history, while at the same time every possible historic link between conservatism and every bad thing ever done trhough out history is carved in stone and promoted incessantly by every educational and media institution in our society?

                    Got me, chief. I'm just telling you what I learned at Ilidgit's new favorite site. That where it says that Darwin is responsible for the NAZI eugenics experiements.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    Oakman wrote:

                    Got me, chief. I'm just telling you what I learned at Ilidgit's new favorite site. That where it says that Darwin is responsible for the NAZI eugenics experiements.

                    Then you learned something actually useful. Because the connection is an historic fact.

                    Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                    • O Oakman

                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      Merriam and Webster disagree with you[^].

                      With good reason. Pablum is a trademarked brand name that was deliberately misspelled. The product is presently owned by John Kerry's wife's company. IMHO, it makes great good sense for a woman who married two U.S. Senators to be offering for sale something called "Pablum."

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                      It is impossible for a woman that married two US Senators to make sense.

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        Diego Moita wrote:

                        That's metaphysical crap that doesn't belong to science. Evolution is an observed fact, not metaphysics.

                        So, not only is religion to be swept up into the dust bin of history,but so is every other possible competive philosophy? Wow, where is our respect for diversity?

                        Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        So, not only is religion to be swept up into the dust bin of history,but so is every other possible competive philosophy? Wow, where is our respect for diversity?

                        Respect for diversity doesn't mean agreement. It only means tolerance for disagreement. BTW, are you still supporting censorship?


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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          Diego Moita wrote:

                          That's metaphysical crap that doesn't belong to science. Evolution is an observed fact, not metaphysics.

                          So, not only is religion to be swept up into the dust bin of history,but so is every other possible competive philosophy? Wow, where is our respect for diversity?

                          Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          So, not only is religion to be swept up into the dust bin of history,but so is every other possible competive philosophy? Wow, where is our respect for diversity?

                          Science doesn't concern itself with religion. It's fully neutral. So the conflict between them is obviously not the product of science. Many religious people can accept science without reservations. Many religious people are scientists. So the conflict is obviously not caused by religion. That only leaves you. Why, if you really believe that you are right, do you consider a science a threat?

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                          • S Stan Shannon

                            Oakman wrote:

                            Got me, chief. I'm just telling you what I learned at Ilidgit's new favorite site. That where it says that Darwin is responsible for the NAZI eugenics experiements.

                            Then you learned something actually useful. Because the connection is an historic fact.

                            Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                            James L Thomson
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                            If that's the case, then why did they ban it? http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/burnedbooks/documents.htm[^]

                            Guidelines from Die Bücherei 2:6 (1935), p. 279:

                            6. Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Häckel).

                            Oh and also... http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/burnedbooks/documents.htm#blacklist[^]

                            Blacklist for Public Libraries and Commercial Lending Libraries:

                            c) All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk.

                            <sarcasm> Hold on, I just saw the connection explained to me. http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2008/04/stein_is_right_darwinism_cause.php[^] Maybe you're right after all. </sarcasm>

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                              Oakman wrote:

                              2. Darwin was responsible for the Holocaust! 3. Because Darwin never dealt with why cells evolve but only the fact that they do evolve, he was an atheist and is responsible for the Eugenics atrocities of the NAZIs. (It's not clear whether he is also responsible for Khan Noonien Singh and his cronies.)

                              Why is it when something the left embraces points in an inconvient direction, it is to be entirely ignored and erased from history, while at the same time every possible historic link between conservatism and every bad thing ever done trhough out history is carved in stone and promoted incessantly by every educational and media institution in our society?

                              Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              Why is it

                              Your personal bias?

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                              • I Ilion

                                American Thinker (Kate Wright): Ben Stein's Intelligent Adventure[^]

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                                People are right when they say that there is no way we can Comprehend how god thinks, or what he has planned for us... Now he's killing kids in their sleep. http://www.stuff.co.nz/4481793a10.html

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                                  People are right when they say that there is no way we can Comprehend how god thinks, or what he has planned for us... Now he's killing kids in their sleep. http://www.stuff.co.nz/4481793a10.html

                                  Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                                  Natasha Bray's father Andy said the death of his daughter was an "unfortunate accident". Well, that's one way of putting it... :wtf:

                                  Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.

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                                  • 7 73Zeppelin

                                    Wow, guess he demolished evolution as a theory, huh? Ben Stein is a genius with all the answers! :laugh: Clearly he didn't understand my "Myth" post the other day. Now I know he's a veritable vegetable when it comes to intellect. Quite possibly he's illiterate too - I have yet to see him understand something he reads - including his own posts!


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                                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                                    Wow, guess he demolished evolution as a theory, huh? Ben Stein is a genius with all the answers!

                                    I happened to be back here on pages 3,4 and noticed that a whole bunch of your and my posts had been downgraded after remaining virginal for a while. I think Ilidgit was hoping no-one would notice. (For awhile he was claiming he wasn't reading my posts, but responding to them once they'd aged a bit and he thought no-one would notice.)

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                                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                                      Wow, guess he demolished evolution as a theory, huh? Ben Stein is a genius with all the answers!

                                      I happened to be back here on pages 3,4 and noticed that a whole bunch of your and my posts had been downgraded after remaining virginal for a while. I think Ilidgit was hoping no-one would notice. (For awhile he was claiming he wasn't reading my posts, but responding to them once they'd aged a bit and he thought no-one would notice.)

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                                      73Zeppelin
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                                      Yeah, he thinks he's "original" and nobody can figure him out. It's too bad he's so completely transparent.


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                                      • I Ilion

                                        American Thinker (Kate Wright): Ben Stein's Intelligent Adventure[^]

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                                        http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2008/04/stein_is_right_darwinism_cause.php[[^] I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Stein doesn't equate anti-semitism w/Darwin, the writer is already wrong. He equates the idea of survival of the fittest (Darwin) and Nazis killing those who they considered to be unfit. Its a simple connection really. And I didn't know evolution was observed. Well, speciation has been, but who's observed a fish become a frog? A frog become a lizard? A monkey become a man? Nonsense! It hasn't been observed at all. What has been observed, is a species mutating into another species, and this has been translated to kinds mutating into other kinds. Not observed, and not found in fossil record tho, so I don't see how its science or a fact or observable. And I still think its a cop out to say evolution doesn't deal w/origins. At least, that wasn't Darwin's idea - "Origins of species". I'd feel more confident if I had some idea how it started, rather than, well, we know how it continued, but we don't know how it started.

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