Calling for mr. John Simmons
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And I replied:
HamedMosavi wrote:
This makes me sad to have to answer what I haven't done and I hate. "Not all Iranian are terrorist" like "not all American are outlaw". What I don't understand is that while US was the first and only country which used nuclear bomb in the world, why Iranian people should suffer from the sanctions, just because maybe someone thinks Iran is seeking to find out how to create a nuclear missile? The other thing that I don't understand is your reason for these sentences when they bother me so much. I hate politics and terrorism. I'm here for science. I use C++ not VB. At least you could take a look at my articles.
Now it's your turn ;)
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
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cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}It was like the Top-10 list from David Letterman (only I couldn't come up with ten things). But since you want to make it a serious political discussion... First, I don't know the minds of the men that decided to develop/use nuclear weapons, and you certainly can' blame anyone other than those men for that action. If you really sit down and analyze it, whoever developed the tech first was bound to use it. I suppose it came down to a matter of either was us doing it, or the Japanese/Nazis doing it. Which would you have preferred? (And don't think for even half a second that the Nazis would have stopped with just two weapons.) Lastly, it looks like the whole world learned a very scary lesson that day, and nukes haven't been used since. The fact that the US is the first and only country to use nuclear weapons is irrelevant to this discussion. Now, presented with the admittedly skewed news media reports, and mixed in with a jaundiced view of military intelligence reports, here's what we think we know. 1) Iran is actively supplying insurgents in Iraq with weapons, training, and (covertly) manpower. This is being done in an attempt to keep Iraq destabilized. 2) Iran is actively seeking nuclear technology. The goal of thousands of centrifuges is NOT for development of nuclear fuel for reactors, but is a blatant attempt to develop nuclear weapons. 3) Given Iran's disdain for all things U.S. and Israeli, you can probably understand the trepidation most of the rest of the world has expressed with regards to Iran's nuclear ambitions. It doesn't take a high-school graduate to figure Iran is up to no good with regards to its nuclear energy program. 4) I personally think the sanctions are pointless. It hasn't stopped Iran's search for nuclear weapon technology. 5) I personally think the US government isn't trying hard enough to avoid armed conflict with Iran. 6) I personally think that the Iraq war was a bad idea because the intel claiming the presence of "weapons of mass destruction" were too vague, and almost impossible to verify. 7) I personally think that the US should stop meddling in the affairs other countries (or at least be more selective about where they meddle and when). It's obvious to me that the Middle East - as a whole - is not interested in working out their regional differences. Y'all are acting like a bunch of third graders fighting over a swing on the playground. 8) VB sucks and I actually pity anyone forced to code in it. However, if they refuse to walk into the ligh
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he didn't mean anything by what he said and if you take offense it's a personal problem with you, dumbass.
"I'm not altogether all together."
Oh I see, you're the resident expert on Mr. Simmons are you, asshat? Look old fart, you don't interest me in the least. I understand you were too stupid to realize that so you can just silently sod off and do whatever the old and infirm do; watch paint dry I think.
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J4amieC wrote:
I'll bite!
Sorry. I was really angry when writing them. Less thinking, maybe too much offensive. Please accept my apologies. In fact I believe you are not responsible for what someone else did, either good or bad.
J4amieC wrote:
your leaders
I'm afraid to talk about this. A prisoner can't do much from inside the prison.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}Hamed Mosavi wrote:
I'm afraid to talk about this. A prisoner can't do much from inside the prison.
That's why you (as well as others in Iran and China and other coutries in the world where they put people in prisons because of what they think and write ) need to go down in the street in MASSES and fight for your OWN freedom. As an example, if I go on the street with a sign saying "Stephen Harper is an asshole" (which he is BTW), I will get strange looks from people, but I will not get arrested; try to do that in Iran, or China (or some other countries... ), if you get arrested for your political opinions, then your country is wrong. It's not ours to give, but yours to win. Like the great philosophers (The Beasty Boys) of our time says : "You need to fight for your right to party!" another BTW, try to get the movie "Persepolis" (probably banned in Iran), it's a very good animation based on a cartoon by Marjane Satrapi. 40 years ago, there was the "Mai '68" uprising in Europe and the North Ameria (to a lesser extent) and one of the motto was : "Il est interdit d'interdir" which translate to "It's forbidden to forbid". Try to apply this to your own life.
Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad
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Oh I see, you're the resident expert on Mr. Simmons are you, asshat? Look old fart, you don't interest me in the least. I understand you were too stupid to realize that so you can just silently sod off and do whatever the old and infirm do; watch paint dry I think.
har har Your mommy's calling, better go get your diaper changed.
"I'm not altogether all together."
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I'll bite!
Hamed Mosavi wrote:
while US was the first and only country which used nuclear bomb in the world, why Iranian people should suffer from the sanctions
America (and the rest of the world) was at war. Dropping that bomb killed many but saved many many more as it forced the Japs out of the war. That's the historical argument anyway. As to why Iran is sanctioned to not have nuclear weapons, do we really need to point out once again that your leaders have openly stated that they would wipe Israel off the map with them. Frankly, I dont think it'll ever happen - Israel is nuclear armed too and we have to trust the old M.A.D. rules would hold up just as well as they did during the cold war..... but best to be safe not sorry.
J4amieC wrote:
Frankly, I dont think it'll ever happen - Israel is nuclear armed too and we have to trust the old M.A.D. rules would hold up just as well as they did during the cold war.....
On the other hand, MAD works only if neither party *is* mad. So:
J4amieC wrote:
..... but best to be safe not sorry.
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Hamed Mosavi wrote:
I'm afraid to talk about this. A prisoner can't do much from inside the prison.
That's why you (as well as others in Iran and China and other coutries in the world where they put people in prisons because of what they think and write ) need to go down in the street in MASSES and fight for your OWN freedom. As an example, if I go on the street with a sign saying "Stephen Harper is an asshole" (which he is BTW), I will get strange looks from people, but I will not get arrested; try to do that in Iran, or China (or some other countries... ), if you get arrested for your political opinions, then your country is wrong. It's not ours to give, but yours to win. Like the great philosophers (The Beasty Boys) of our time says : "You need to fight for your right to party!" another BTW, try to get the movie "Persepolis" (probably banned in Iran), it's a very good animation based on a cartoon by Marjane Satrapi. 40 years ago, there was the "Mai '68" uprising in Europe and the North Ameria (to a lesser extent) and one of the motto was : "Il est interdit d'interdir" which translate to "It's forbidden to forbid". Try to apply this to your own life.
Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad
Maximilien wrote:
40 years ago, there was the "Mai '68" uprising in Europe and the North Ameria (to a lesser extent) and one of the motto was : "Il est interdit d'interdir" which translate to "It's forbidden to forbid".
Is it any wonder that Political Correctness (and multi-culti) has such a hold over Eutopia?
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It was rather unnecessary (not to mention insulting), particularly after Chris has recently requested people tone things down.
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har har Your mommy's calling, better go get your diaper changed.
"I'm not altogether all together."
Goodness, these withering assaults of yours are certainly too much for me. Where do you get them from, you must have a vast repository. Consequently, you'll forgive me for moving on and interacting with someone more, how you say, "intelligent".
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J4amieC wrote:
I'll bite!
Sorry. I was really angry when writing them. Less thinking, maybe too much offensive. Please accept my apologies. In fact I believe you are not responsible for what someone else did, either good or bad.
J4amieC wrote:
your leaders
I'm afraid to talk about this. A prisoner can't do much from inside the prison.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
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cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}I have seen some protests on TV about your government. But when the few, who have the power, act like madmen...I think there is an assumption that everyone in the Middle East has the same mentality. One of my favorite professors was from Iran and we used to have interesting discussions on religion. However, I have met many people from the Middle East who automatically hate me because of where I am from or my religion. It's a circle that's hard to fight.
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It was like the Top-10 list from David Letterman (only I couldn't come up with ten things). But since you want to make it a serious political discussion... First, I don't know the minds of the men that decided to develop/use nuclear weapons, and you certainly can' blame anyone other than those men for that action. If you really sit down and analyze it, whoever developed the tech first was bound to use it. I suppose it came down to a matter of either was us doing it, or the Japanese/Nazis doing it. Which would you have preferred? (And don't think for even half a second that the Nazis would have stopped with just two weapons.) Lastly, it looks like the whole world learned a very scary lesson that day, and nukes haven't been used since. The fact that the US is the first and only country to use nuclear weapons is irrelevant to this discussion. Now, presented with the admittedly skewed news media reports, and mixed in with a jaundiced view of military intelligence reports, here's what we think we know. 1) Iran is actively supplying insurgents in Iraq with weapons, training, and (covertly) manpower. This is being done in an attempt to keep Iraq destabilized. 2) Iran is actively seeking nuclear technology. The goal of thousands of centrifuges is NOT for development of nuclear fuel for reactors, but is a blatant attempt to develop nuclear weapons. 3) Given Iran's disdain for all things U.S. and Israeli, you can probably understand the trepidation most of the rest of the world has expressed with regards to Iran's nuclear ambitions. It doesn't take a high-school graduate to figure Iran is up to no good with regards to its nuclear energy program. 4) I personally think the sanctions are pointless. It hasn't stopped Iran's search for nuclear weapon technology. 5) I personally think the US government isn't trying hard enough to avoid armed conflict with Iran. 6) I personally think that the Iraq war was a bad idea because the intel claiming the presence of "weapons of mass destruction" were too vague, and almost impossible to verify. 7) I personally think that the US should stop meddling in the affairs other countries (or at least be more selective about where they meddle and when). It's obvious to me that the Middle East - as a whole - is not interested in working out their regional differences. Y'all are acting like a bunch of third graders fighting over a swing on the playground. 8) VB sucks and I actually pity anyone forced to code in it. However, if they refuse to walk into the ligh
On the whole a good list with a couple of caveats. Mr Dinner Jacket hasn't, as far as I know, aligned him self with nutters in either Venezuela or the DPRK rather George Bush, or whoever pulls his strings, has associated them together for bad-association propaganda purposes. The axis of evil doesn't actually exist outside the collective neo-conservative excuse for a mind. Iran isn't paying people to set off bombs and cause civil unrest in the US, at least not successfully. As far as we can tell the US is doing precisely that inside Iran, i.e. behaving as a terrorist state which kind of explains a lot of what's coming back the other way. Even if this is not so both the US and UK have sponsored terrorism and brought down a democratically elected president in Iran before so a large degree of fear that they might do so again is not unreasonable. Keep up the good work.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Hamed Mosavi wrote:
I'm afraid to talk about this. A prisoner can't do much from inside the prison.
That's why you (as well as others in Iran and China and other coutries in the world where they put people in prisons because of what they think and write ) need to go down in the street in MASSES and fight for your OWN freedom. As an example, if I go on the street with a sign saying "Stephen Harper is an asshole" (which he is BTW), I will get strange looks from people, but I will not get arrested; try to do that in Iran, or China (or some other countries... ), if you get arrested for your political opinions, then your country is wrong. It's not ours to give, but yours to win. Like the great philosophers (The Beasty Boys) of our time says : "You need to fight for your right to party!" another BTW, try to get the movie "Persepolis" (probably banned in Iran), it's a very good animation based on a cartoon by Marjane Satrapi. 40 years ago, there was the "Mai '68" uprising in Europe and the North Ameria (to a lesser extent) and one of the motto was : "Il est interdit d'interdir" which translate to "It's forbidden to forbid". Try to apply this to your own life.
Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad
Maximilien wrote:
"You need to fight for your right to party!"
Our fathers did in 1978. The most important and mostly used motto was "Esteghlal, azadi, jomhoori eslami" which translates to: "Independency, Freedom, Islamic republic of Iran". Many, many died for the revolution happens. The country attacked by Iraq and spent 8 years in war and for more than 20 years where paing for the costs of the war and... With that experience in mind it's next to nothing probable to something like that happen again.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
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On the whole a good list with a couple of caveats. Mr Dinner Jacket hasn't, as far as I know, aligned him self with nutters in either Venezuela or the DPRK rather George Bush, or whoever pulls his strings, has associated them together for bad-association propaganda purposes. The axis of evil doesn't actually exist outside the collective neo-conservative excuse for a mind. Iran isn't paying people to set off bombs and cause civil unrest in the US, at least not successfully. As far as we can tell the US is doing precisely that inside Iran, i.e. behaving as a terrorist state which kind of explains a lot of what's coming back the other way. Even if this is not so both the US and UK have sponsored terrorism and brought down a democratically elected president in Iran before so a large degree of fear that they might do so again is not unreasonable. Keep up the good work.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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They kept it clean and then the guy from Iran started a thread in the Lounge.
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Actually, the Iranian guy started a thread about compilation errors and then Simmons jumped on it with gusto. The Iranian guy asked him to move it here. Frankly, I don't care who started it. Simmons was rather insulting as is now quite evident.
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I'll bite!
Hamed Mosavi wrote:
while US was the first and only country which used nuclear bomb in the world, why Iranian people should suffer from the sanctions
America (and the rest of the world) was at war. Dropping that bomb killed many but saved many many more as it forced the Japs out of the war. That's the historical argument anyway. As to why Iran is sanctioned to not have nuclear weapons, do we really need to point out once again that your leaders have openly stated that they would wipe Israel off the map with them. Frankly, I dont think it'll ever happen - Israel is nuclear armed too and we have to trust the old M.A.D. rules would hold up just as well as they did during the cold war..... but best to be safe not sorry.
J4amieC wrote:
your leaders have openly stated that they would wipe Israel off the map
And not just Israel, but any country that recognizes their right to exist: “Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury” ~ Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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You're such a fool. At least the pretend-atheists have the excuse that they claim to be Zombies.
You can throw insults for sure but it has yet to be seen if you actually know anything. I don't recall a single occassion where you have actually contradicted one thing I have said except by asserting the opposite. If you think me a fool you either have a reason or are simply insulting yourself.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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You can throw insults for sure but it has yet to be seen if you actually know anything. I don't recall a single occassion where you have actually contradicted one thing I have said except by asserting the opposite. If you think me a fool you either have a reason or are simply insulting yourself.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Why would you imagine I would waste a moment of my time trying to convince you of anything? You're a conspiracy-monger: you are no more willing to think than the pretend-atheists around here are; you are no more willing to think that a Marxist or a Freudian or a Darwinist is -- everything and its contradiction "fits" into your Total Explanation. It's utterly impossible to reason with unreason; all one can do is try to ignore it, or mock it. I try to alternate my approach.
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Maximilien wrote:
"You need to fight for your right to party!"
Our fathers did in 1978. The most important and mostly used motto was "Esteghlal, azadi, jomhoori eslami" which translates to: "Independency, Freedom, Islamic republic of Iran". Many, many died for the revolution happens. The country attacked by Iraq and spent 8 years in war and for more than 20 years where paing for the costs of the war and... With that experience in mind it's next to nothing probable to something like that happen again.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}Hamed Mosavi wrote:
Our fathers did in 1978. The most important and mostly used motto was "Esteghlal, azadi, jomhoori eslami" which translates to: "Independency, Freedom, Islamic republic of Iran". Many, many died for the revolution happens. The country attacked by Iraq and spent 8 years in war and for more than 20 years where paing for the costs of the war and... With that experience in mind it's next to nothing probable to something like that happen again.
Consider where your fathers started and where you ended. Consider Maximilien's example of the "May '68" "uprisings" in Europe and where the working-out of that has and is taking the Europeans. I recommend to you Mortimer Adler's essay: Little Errors in the Beginning[^]
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Why would you imagine I would waste a moment of my time trying to convince you of anything? You're a conspiracy-monger: you are no more willing to think than the pretend-atheists around here are; you are no more willing to think that a Marxist or a Freudian or a Darwinist is -- everything and its contradiction "fits" into your Total Explanation. It's utterly impossible to reason with unreason; all one can do is try to ignore it, or mock it. I try to alternate my approach.
As you fail to reference any unreason on my part you only demonstrate it on your own. Clearly I have angered you with one or more of my opinions which you are neither knowledgable enough to argue with nor honest enough to admit to being unable to refute. While everything that is true fits very well in my world view its contradiction certainly does not. I am no post-modernist and that you should throw that acqusation, of all those you might have come up with, is more ironic than you can possibly know. :laugh:
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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It was like the Top-10 list from David Letterman (only I couldn't come up with ten things). But since you want to make it a serious political discussion... First, I don't know the minds of the men that decided to develop/use nuclear weapons, and you certainly can' blame anyone other than those men for that action. If you really sit down and analyze it, whoever developed the tech first was bound to use it. I suppose it came down to a matter of either was us doing it, or the Japanese/Nazis doing it. Which would you have preferred? (And don't think for even half a second that the Nazis would have stopped with just two weapons.) Lastly, it looks like the whole world learned a very scary lesson that day, and nukes haven't been used since. The fact that the US is the first and only country to use nuclear weapons is irrelevant to this discussion. Now, presented with the admittedly skewed news media reports, and mixed in with a jaundiced view of military intelligence reports, here's what we think we know. 1) Iran is actively supplying insurgents in Iraq with weapons, training, and (covertly) manpower. This is being done in an attempt to keep Iraq destabilized. 2) Iran is actively seeking nuclear technology. The goal of thousands of centrifuges is NOT for development of nuclear fuel for reactors, but is a blatant attempt to develop nuclear weapons. 3) Given Iran's disdain for all things U.S. and Israeli, you can probably understand the trepidation most of the rest of the world has expressed with regards to Iran's nuclear ambitions. It doesn't take a high-school graduate to figure Iran is up to no good with regards to its nuclear energy program. 4) I personally think the sanctions are pointless. It hasn't stopped Iran's search for nuclear weapon technology. 5) I personally think the US government isn't trying hard enough to avoid armed conflict with Iran. 6) I personally think that the Iraq war was a bad idea because the intel claiming the presence of "weapons of mass destruction" were too vague, and almost impossible to verify. 7) I personally think that the US should stop meddling in the affairs other countries (or at least be more selective about where they meddle and when). It's obvious to me that the Middle East - as a whole - is not interested in working out their regional differences. Y'all are acting like a bunch of third graders fighting over a swing on the playground. 8) VB sucks and I actually pity anyone forced to code in it. However, if they refuse to walk into the ligh
I'm sorry if I didn't get the funny part which I think is hidden behind a lot of hard facts. For the political parts, I can't help. I'm afraid to answer. Most of what I see here is to say some Iranian or some Muslim did something bad. What does it proves? that I am bad? That all Iranian are bad? That American or non Muslims are all good? Should I or you answer for what the government are doing? If they are not wise enough to be friends, shouldn't I and you be? You know John, the difference between me and you starts from where on the earth I was born and where you did. Here's why I am a bit angry when I here such things rather than taking it funny: Maybe out of luck or maybe for some good reasons that I don't know, you've been born in US. What would you do if you where in Iran? Put yourself in my shoes. I'm baned from buying the stuff the whole world creates, I am baned from even going into some websites that find out where's my IP from, I am baned to work for a company outside of this country, etc. Wouldn't you be nervous in this situation? I'm not even talking about what's going on inside. These are an everyday experience for us. I'm just trying to ignore them, but when someone puts his finger exactly on the pain, I get angry. About the nuclear bomb, I'm sorry. As I stated in another post, I was too angry and not thinking enough.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
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I'm sorry if I didn't get the funny part which I think is hidden behind a lot of hard facts. For the political parts, I can't help. I'm afraid to answer. Most of what I see here is to say some Iranian or some Muslim did something bad. What does it proves? that I am bad? That all Iranian are bad? That American or non Muslims are all good? Should I or you answer for what the government are doing? If they are not wise enough to be friends, shouldn't I and you be? You know John, the difference between me and you starts from where on the earth I was born and where you did. Here's why I am a bit angry when I here such things rather than taking it funny: Maybe out of luck or maybe for some good reasons that I don't know, you've been born in US. What would you do if you where in Iran? Put yourself in my shoes. I'm baned from buying the stuff the whole world creates, I am baned from even going into some websites that find out where's my IP from, I am baned to work for a company outside of this country, etc. Wouldn't you be nervous in this situation? I'm not even talking about what's going on inside. These are an everyday experience for us. I'm just trying to ignore them, but when someone puts his finger exactly on the pain, I get angry. About the nuclear bomb, I'm sorry. As I stated in another post, I was too angry and not thinking enough.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}That's a very well written reply.
