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    Oh, so that's what happened! http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Careers/Where-Did-All-the-Girl-Geeks-Go/[^] Courtesy of E-Week.com

    What does an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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      Oh, so that's what happened! http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Careers/Where-Did-All-the-Girl-Geeks-Go/[^] Courtesy of E-Week.com

      What does an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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      Where did ALL the geeks go? "computer science degree enrollments have been "in the toilet" since 2001." OK, its a fucking dull job sometimes, what isnt, but designing metal clips (yes, I knew a mech eng who did that) isnt that fun. Its not everyone that gets to design missiles and bridges! Actually, SW eng in the defence business can be quite fun. I worked with a guy who wrote the guidance system for the rapier missles. He tested his SW on old Meteors. Stillm, I suppose it gurarantees the rest of us who can stick it a job for life: I plan to never retire as such, why bother? Its not like the jobs hard work and you need something to keep you ammused.

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        Oh, so that's what happened! http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Careers/Where-Did-All-the-Girl-Geeks-Go/[^] Courtesy of E-Week.com

        What does an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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        Once they figured out that their chances of marrying the next dotcom millionaire had dropped considerably, the number of female programmers started going down and those that remained stopped going down.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          Once they figured out that their chances of marrying the next dotcom millionaire had dropped considerably, the number of female programmers started going down and those that remained stopped going down.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          No, it was when they started getting patronised even more often.

          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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            Oh, so that's what happened! http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Careers/Where-Did-All-the-Girl-Geeks-Go/[^] Courtesy of E-Week.com

            What does an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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            I feel an affirmative action initiative in the works...

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              No, it was when they started getting patronised even more often.

              Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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              Christian Graus
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              LOL - got my 5. I think CS enrollments are down all over. I know there's severe shortage here.

              Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                Oh, so that's what happened! http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Careers/Where-Did-All-the-Girl-Geeks-Go/[^] Courtesy of E-Week.com

                What does an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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                I asked my boss once why we had no female developers and he said not one had applied, in the life of the company. So, I dunno, where there ever tons of girl geeks ?

                Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                  I asked my boss once why we had no female developers and he said not one had applied, in the life of the company. So, I dunno, where there ever tons of girl geeks ?

                  Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  where there ever tons of girl geeks

                  When I worked for TJX (the retail conglomerate) there were lots of female developers. Indeed, almost 50% of the development work force (almost 300 strong) was female. Many of them had started off in the company on the help desk or in the secretarial pool (Their career path was Word VBA -> VB.) They came in a 9:00 o'clock; took their 1-hr paid lunch; and left precisely at 5:00.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    No, it was when they started getting patronised even more often.

                    Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                    Trollslayer wrote:

                    No, it was when they started getting patronised even more often.

                    I'm an equal opportunity patronizer. Never figured someone's sex, skin color, age, or religion put them on a pedestal.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      Where did ALL the geeks go? "computer science degree enrollments have been "in the toilet" since 2001." OK, its a fucking dull job sometimes, what isnt, but designing metal clips (yes, I knew a mech eng who did that) isnt that fun. Its not everyone that gets to design missiles and bridges! Actually, SW eng in the defence business can be quite fun. I worked with a guy who wrote the guidance system for the rapier missles. He tested his SW on old Meteors. Stillm, I suppose it gurarantees the rest of us who can stick it a job for life: I plan to never retire as such, why bother? Its not like the jobs hard work and you need something to keep you ammused.

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      "computer science degree enrollments have been "in the toilet" since 2001."

                      you mean since the 'old economy' made a come-back, and started laying the ground for a fivefold increase in the price of the barrel? (arf!) :~ X|

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        where there ever tons of girl geeks

                        When I worked for TJX (the retail conglomerate) there were lots of female developers. Indeed, almost 50% of the development work force (almost 300 strong) was female. Many of them had started off in the company on the help desk or in the secretarial pool (Their career path was Word VBA -> VB.) They came in a 9:00 o'clock; took their 1-hr paid lunch; and left precisely at 5:00.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Yeah, we had a receptionist in the early days who was trying to teach her self VB.

                        Oakman wrote:

                        They came in a 9:00 o'clock; took their 1-hr paid lunch; and left precisely at 5:00.

                        I've known plenty of male developers who barely did that.

                        Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                          Once they figured out that their chances of marrying the next dotcom millionaire had dropped considerably, the number of female programmers started going down and those that remained stopped going down.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Pierre Leclercq
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                          Hmm, that's an interesting question, did the dotcom millionaires mary female geeks, or did they buy a couple of yacht? (to attract all kinds of female)

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                            Yeah, we had a receptionist in the early days who was trying to teach her self VB.

                            Oakman wrote:

                            They came in a 9:00 o'clock; took their 1-hr paid lunch; and left precisely at 5:00.

                            I've known plenty of male developers who barely did that.

                            Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            I've known plenty of male developers who barely did that.

                            TJX had its share, as well. Ironically, they (the men) received bad reviews and were, in some cases, let go or forced out. No woman, during the 3+ years I was there, ever left except of her own free will.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              I asked my boss once why we had no female developers and he said not one had applied, in the life of the company. So, I dunno, where there ever tons of girl geeks ?

                              Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                              Pierre Leclercq
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                              In my current company there is an unusually high number of female developers. And this is actually quite nice to be in a more balanced workplace. Well the thing is there may be more female scientist than actual developers but still.

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                                In my current company there is an unusually high number of female developers. And this is actually quite nice to be in a more balanced workplace. Well the thing is there may be more female scientist than actual developers but still.

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                                z974647
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                                The peak (in my experience) was the late 80's, early 90's. They weren't really considered geeks so much back then, but a least half of our IT group(s) were female. It seems now like they've shifted to other fields such as accounting, banking, advertising, medical, etc.

                                What does an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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