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    I'm unsure how everyone else does it, But for a few yrs I've been charging 50% upfront for work, so I won't even start a job before the check has been processed. The reason is so many clients seem to put me through an accounting process that takes ages to happen. Has anyone tried charging 100% upfront, and then adding on over-runs ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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      I'm unsure how everyone else does it, But for a few yrs I've been charging 50% upfront for work, so I won't even start a job before the check has been processed. The reason is so many clients seem to put me through an accounting process that takes ages to happen. Has anyone tried charging 100% upfront, and then adding on over-runs ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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      I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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      Colin Davies wrote: Has anyone tried charging 100% upfront, and then adding on over-runs ? I never charge for over-runs. My customers have a choise between being billed by the hour or by the project. Most choose to pay by the project because they know what the total will be. I like it also because I have an incentive to get it done quicker so it works out for both parties. IMHO this is the best way to go.

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        Colin Davies wrote: Has anyone tried charging 100% upfront, and then adding on over-runs ? I never charge for over-runs. My customers have a choise between being billed by the hour or by the project. Most choose to pay by the project because they know what the total will be. I like it also because I have an incentive to get it done quicker so it works out for both parties. IMHO this is the best way to go.

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        Ok, I should have mentioned that I cover over-runs caused by myself, like researching the wrong stuff or not planning correctly etc. But occasionally I get the Feature Creep stuff, "Oh can, you get it to do this" and "Actually we now think this should be ..."; Basically I'm trying to discourage this from happening. But do you charge upfront ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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          Ok, I should have mentioned that I cover over-runs caused by myself, like researching the wrong stuff or not planning correctly etc. But occasionally I get the Feature Creep stuff, "Oh can, you get it to do this" and "Actually we now think this should be ..."; Basically I'm trying to discourage this from happening. But do you charge upfront ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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          Colin Davies wrote: But do you charge upfront ? When I charge by the product, we have the specifications written out, and that's what we do. In that situation, I charge the whole cost upfront. Colin Davies wrote: But occasionally I get the Feature Creep stuff, "Oh can, you get it to do this" and "Actually we now think this should be ..."; If they want changes, I first finnish the project as it was agreed upon originally and then I charge them by the hour to implement the changes.

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            I'm unsure how everyone else does it, But for a few yrs I've been charging 50% upfront for work, so I won't even start a job before the check has been processed. The reason is so many clients seem to put me through an accounting process that takes ages to happen. Has anyone tried charging 100% upfront, and then adding on over-runs ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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            I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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            Christian Graus
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            I believe here we have a payment schedule that runs to agreed milestones. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002

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              Colin Davies wrote: But do you charge upfront ? When I charge by the product, we have the specifications written out, and that's what we do. In that situation, I charge the whole cost upfront. Colin Davies wrote: But occasionally I get the Feature Creep stuff, "Oh can, you get it to do this" and "Actually we now think this should be ..."; If they want changes, I first finnish the project as it was agreed upon originally and then I charge them by the hour to implement the changes.

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              Okay, it sounds like you are already doing what I'm intending to do. As I'll probably be getting less work doing this, I better increase my rates again. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                I believe here we have a payment schedule that runs to agreed milestones. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002

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                Christian Graus wrote: I believe here we have a payment schedule that runs to agreed milestones. That sounds nice. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  Okay, it sounds like you are already doing what I'm intending to do. As I'll probably be getting less work doing this, I better increase my rates again. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  Colin Davies wrote: I'll probably be getting less work doing this I think you will be getting more. Most companies don't like the uncertainty of not knowing how much a project will ultimatly cost, and it is difficult for them to budget for it completely. That is why you have been getting the accounting run around in your other past projects. If they ultimatly need anouther feature, they can hire you by the hour to implement it to your already completed project. That way they are sure that they *really* want it, and are not just adding something because they can.

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                    I'm unsure how everyone else does it, But for a few yrs I've been charging 50% upfront for work, so I won't even start a job before the check has been processed. The reason is so many clients seem to put me through an accounting process that takes ages to happen. Has anyone tried charging 100% upfront, and then adding on over-runs ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                    I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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                    i usually do 1/3 up front. then they only get time-crippled builds, and no source, until i get the other 2/3. -c


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