So Islam is a religion of peace
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I agree that grief is grief, and that death and pain suck. But there is a large difference between blowing up a bomb in the middle of a group of civilians on purpose, and dropping one on a valid target, where there are civilians nearby, versus taking a head shot on a bad guy. I can see where you will say the dead won't see the difference, or their loved ones, but intent does count for something. But 'collateral damage' is a BS word for death and damage. Call a spade a spade.
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RichardM1 wrote:
the middle of a group of civilians on purpose, and dropping one on a valid target, where there are civilians nearby
No doubt you've heard the saying about one mans freedom fighter is another terrorist. The same could be said about targets.
RichardM1 wrote:
versus taking a head shot on a bad gu
Thats a very valid difference. I've no doubt the allied forces would prefer that sollution where possible but they're not shy about the alternative either. And fair enough, war is war after all but we did kind of pick the fight in Iraq.
RichardM1 wrote:
But 'collateral damage' is a BS word for death and damage. Call a spade a spade.
Exactly
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What he said was blatant disrespect to the people who are risking their lives, dying, struggling to maintain, for people like you and me. As if the those solders are the bad guys for defending America after islamics destroyed the twin towers and damaged the Pentegon killing thousands of innocent men, women, and children in the process. He actually gives sympathy for those scumbags.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Not what I would call a debate, at least.
Most of the time they will either constantly make unsupported claims and pretend they are assumed to be right, or try to meticulously pick apart one small piece of what the other person said.
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Yeah, like, sometimes they'll sneakily call one thing another and refuse to explain their thought process. As if a faulty syllogism could ever pass off as an argument... :doh: *cough cough* Oh! What have I accidentally found here? :confused: IF 'materialism' is the truth about the nature of reality, THEN minds (or 'souls' if you prefer that word) cannot exist. BUT minds do exist. THEREFORE, 'materialism' (and 'physicalism,' and 'naturalism,' and 'atheism,' and 'agnosticism') is clearly seen to be false. It must be so easy to debate when your only aim is to impress yourself.
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What he said was blatant disrespect to the people who are risking their lives, dying, struggling to maintain, for people like you and me. As if the those solders are the bad guys for defending America after islamics destroyed the twin towers and damaged the Pentegon killing thousands of innocent men, women, and children in the process. He actually gives sympathy for those scumbags.
Um, no he didn't. He just acknowledged that we're not the only ones suffering. In fact, if you look at it properly, the innocents on their side are WAY more screwed-over. The militants and terrorists never deserve sympathy, but all of the people that they're hurting should be regarded with something more than hatred.
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Um, no he didn't. He just acknowledged that we're not the only ones suffering. In fact, if you look at it properly, the innocents on their side are WAY more screwed-over. The militants and terrorists never deserve sympathy, but all of the people that they're hurting should be regarded with something more than hatred.
Its their country(s), their people, their religion. If they can't maintain their own people then they will suffer the consequences. The simple fact is that is islam that motivates them to do these things, if they can't take control then they need to evacuate. Its their own fault, it sure as hell isn't non-islamic people's fault, or America's. Just think about how they treat their own women and children.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Um, no he didn't.
Oh yes he did. I would seriously punch him in the face for it too.
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Yeah, like, sometimes they'll sneakily call one thing another and refuse to explain their thought process. As if a faulty syllogism could ever pass off as an argument... :doh: *cough cough* Oh! What have I accidentally found here? :confused: IF 'materialism' is the truth about the nature of reality, THEN minds (or 'souls' if you prefer that word) cannot exist. BUT minds do exist. THEREFORE, 'materialism' (and 'physicalism,' and 'naturalism,' and 'atheism,' and 'agnosticism') is clearly seen to be false. It must be so easy to debate when your only aim is to impress yourself.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
It must be so easy to debate when your only aim is to impress yourself.
True, and Ilion and Matthew Faithfull seem to think they can win a debate just by frustrating the other person to the point of giving up.
I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion
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Its their country(s), their people, their religion. If they can't maintain their own people then they will suffer the consequences. The simple fact is that is islam that motivates them to do these things, if they can't take control then they need to evacuate. Its their own fault, it sure as hell isn't non-islamic people's fault, or America's. Just think about how they treat their own women and children.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Um, no he didn't.
Oh yes he did. I would seriously punch him in the face for it too.
It's that simple, huh?
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It's that simple, huh?
Damn right it is. Don't forget islam is filthy moldy shit to begin with, it does not matter if there are innocents. Its like being a child molester (mohammad) living in a society where that is accepted and you live with similar people, and expecting people to tolerate it because its who you are.
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Damn right it is. Don't forget islam is filthy moldy shit to begin with, it does not matter if there are innocents. Its like being a child molester (mohammad) living in a society where that is accepted and you live with similar people, and expecting people to tolerate it because its who you are.
Yeah, you're right, innocent people should never be considered. Ever. Unless they're American, of course.
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Yeah, you're right, innocent people should never be considered. Ever. Unless they're American, of course.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Unless they're American, of course.
No, unless they are actually humans with a brain. They are not innocent.
So I guess innocence and right to live is based off where you're born?
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So I guess innocence and right to live is based off where you're born?
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It isn't where you were born, or what race you are, its what you tolerate and believe in. If you tolerate evil, then you are evil.
Ah, OK, I gotcha. If you're brutally oppressed and have no voice and no way out, you should die because you fail to step in and put a stop to all the nonsense.
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Ah, OK, I gotcha. If you're brutally oppressed and have no voice and no way out, you should die because you fail to step in and put a stop to all the nonsense.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
If you're brutally oppressed and have no voice and no way out
Everyone has a voice and there is always a way out.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
you should die because you fail to step in and put a stop to all the nonsense.
No you should die trying. Some things are worth dying for and I think ridding the universe of islam is worth dying for, that and ridding Earth of like Josh Gray and Christian Grauss';s personalities. The type of personality that puts us in a situation where we actually have to take drastic measures because the evil was tolerated for far too long.
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no.. idiot's capsize the key points in their writing to somehow add more 'bang' to their arguments.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Kill em all, right ?
Either that, or make them feel so shitty about the 'shit' they 'shit' out of their 'shitty asses' that they change and apologize to everyone because they worshiped a filthy 'religion' and a pedifile.
Christian Graus wrote:
I'm just not stupid enough to believe the crap the media dishes out
The media is pro islime. I don't know how you think the media is dishing out anti-muslim propaganda. Is it because muslims are blowing shit up and crashing planes into skyscrapers and they actually report about it once in a blue moon? Would you rather they not report about real news?
Christian Graus wrote:
That's gross stereotyping and racism.
Why don't you read a little of the queeran and then tell me how you feel?
Christian Graus wrote:
I choose to believe that the vast bulk of muslim people, follow their religion for no reason beyond that they were born into it, and want nothing more than to live in peace with their families.
You CHOOSE to BELIEVE that.
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Now that you've enlightened us all, I am really scared, because we has lots of Muslims in SA, and even one in our company. Whereto shall I run? Your dick-headed, white Utopia? ;P
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Now that you've enlightened us all, I am really scared, because we has lots of Muslims in SA, and even one in our company. Whereto shall I run? Your dick-headed, white Utopia? ;P
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
If you're brutally oppressed and have no voice and no way out
Everyone has a voice and there is always a way out.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
you should die because you fail to step in and put a stop to all the nonsense.
No you should die trying. Some things are worth dying for and I think ridding the universe of islam is worth dying for, that and ridding Earth of like Josh Gray and Christian Grauss';s personalities. The type of personality that puts us in a situation where we actually have to take drastic measures because the evil was tolerated for far too long.
pimpdog wrote:
Everyone has a voice and there is always a way out.
Wow, you genuinely believe that? :~
pimpdog wrote:
No you should die trying. Some things are worth dying for and I think ridding the universe of islam is worth dying for, that and ridding Earth of like Josh Gray and Christian Grauss';s personalities. The type of personality that puts us in a situation where we actually have to take drastic measures because the evil was tolerated for far too long.
Fine, go and confront the militants yourself. You'll be dying for your cause before you know it!
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pimpdog wrote:
Everyone has a voice and there is always a way out.
Wow, you genuinely believe that? :~
pimpdog wrote:
No you should die trying. Some things are worth dying for and I think ridding the universe of islam is worth dying for, that and ridding Earth of like Josh Gray and Christian Grauss';s personalities. The type of personality that puts us in a situation where we actually have to take drastic measures because the evil was tolerated for far too long.
Fine, go and confront the militants yourself. You'll be dying for your cause before you know it!