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  • L Lost User

    peterchen wrote:

    It's their right to pull the ad, but I don't think the complaints are that valid.

    So because the scarf has migrated, due to use in common fashion, from being a statement to being just an acessory, it has lost sufficient of its original meaning to warrant free use? Obviously all those who complained disagree with you.

    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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    fat_boy wrote:

    Obviously all those who complained disagree with you.

    Uh - dozens of right wing bloggers disagree with me? The pain! The pain!

    fat_boy wrote:

    So because the scarf has migrated, due to use in common fashion, from being a statement to being just an acessory, it has lost sufficient of its original meaning to warrant free use?

    It is a scarf, to keep you warm. I don't have to pass some terrorist exam to get one. What it symbolizes is of course in the minds of people, independent what it is. The majority of people was oblivious to the scarf or it's meaning, Michelle wasn't. Fine for her. But since when was it her principle to make the majority bow to the minorities whim? She just made an ass of herself.

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      Interesting. This is unheard of in the ME.

      "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      Interesting. This is unheard of in the ME.

      Ah, you finally get the point!

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      • I Ilion

        See this? You *are* capable of rationality. This is why I so mock you irrational behavior and statements.

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        You know, there are other ways of emphasising words.

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          fat_boy wrote:

          Obviously all those who complained disagree with you.

          Uh - dozens of right wing bloggers disagree with me? The pain! The pain!

          fat_boy wrote:

          So because the scarf has migrated, due to use in common fashion, from being a statement to being just an acessory, it has lost sufficient of its original meaning to warrant free use?

          It is a scarf, to keep you warm. I don't have to pass some terrorist exam to get one. What it symbolizes is of course in the minds of people, independent what it is. The majority of people was oblivious to the scarf or it's meaning, Michelle wasn't. Fine for her. But since when was it her principle to make the majority bow to the minorities whim? She just made an ass of herself.

          We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
          blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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          Look at its usage in that rap video you linked to. It use there is offensive, as it is designed to be. How can you not see that and call it just a scarf? It is NOT natural atire for a westerner. The only reason it IS worn is as a political statement. That scarf is a symbol of death. Terrorist death. Beheading with a knife kind of death. Stoning death. Nasty, grim stuff.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          • I Ilion

            See this? You *are* capable of rationality. This is why I so mock you irrational behavior and statements.

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            I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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              I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.

              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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              Ilion
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              fat_boy wrote:

              I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.

              No, Idiot, you wrote something ... an entire post ... which was rational and in which your points logically followed. edit: Refusing to see reality[^] is not rational. And your reaction to my response to that post was even worse.

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              • I Ilion

                fat_boy wrote:

                I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.

                No, Idiot, you wrote something ... an entire post ... which was rational and in which your points logically followed. edit: Refusing to see reality[^] is not rational. And your reaction to my response to that post was even worse.

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                Ilíon wrote:

                Idiot,

                Sorry, that was uncaled for. I apologise. I still say ban the bitch!

                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  Look at its usage in that rap video you linked to. It use there is offensive, as it is designed to be. How can you not see that and call it just a scarf? It is NOT natural atire for a westerner. The only reason it IS worn is as a political statement. That scarf is a symbol of death. Terrorist death. Beheading with a knife kind of death. Stoning death. Nasty, grim stuff.

                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  fat_boy wrote:

                  That scarf is a symbol of death. Terrorist death. Beheading with a knife kind of death. Stoning death. Nasty, grim stuff

                  You really have lost it, haven't you? I could do your entire rap on any prop in the ad. You might as well start claiming that every man who has a beard is a terrorist sympathizer. Or every muslim woman who wears a burka is expressing sympathy for all suicide bombers. Or that every member of the Green Berets is French. What a load of horseshit is dribbling from your lips.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?

                    Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so fucking trivial. Marc

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    It used to be just a scarf until Arafat popularised its use and glorified the terrorist sentiments behind it. It is akin to the swastika in that the original meaning of the symbol bore little or no relation to what it came to mean. I agree that it is just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs. Of course the bizarre side is that it is standard head gear for many in the middle east and its roots go back even further. It is not the scarf that is the problem: it is what it symbolises.

                    me, me, me

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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?

                      Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so fucking trivial. Marc

                      Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial.

                      Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' [reaction to politicized provocation]! The whole [leftist] world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial. :laugh:

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        It used to be just a scarf until Arafat popularised its use and glorified the terrorist sentiments behind it. It is akin to the swastika in that the original meaning of the symbol bore little or no relation to what it came to mean. I agree that it is just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs. Of course the bizarre side is that it is standard head gear for many in the middle east and its roots go back even further. It is not the scarf that is the problem: it is what it symbolises.

                        me, me, me

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                        Ilion
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                        Exactly. As I said yesterday: it's "radical chic"

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                        • I Ilion

                          fat_boy wrote:

                          I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.

                          No, Idiot, you wrote something ... an entire post ... which was rational and in which your points logically followed. edit: Refusing to see reality[^] is not rational. And your reaction to my response to that post was even worse.

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                          Now, now, girls, don't fight.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            fat_boy wrote:

                            What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?

                            Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so fucking trivial. Marc

                            Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial.

                            Not the world, just a few of the guys whose elevator doesn't reach the top floor.

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                            • I Ilion

                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial.

                              Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' [reaction to politicized provocation]! The whole [leftist] world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial. :laugh:

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                              Once again it uses someone else's words. It obviously is having trouble remembering that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

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                                Ilíon wrote:

                                Idiot,

                                Sorry, that was uncaled for. I apologise. I still say ban the bitch!

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                Ilion
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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                Sorry, that was uncaled for. I apologise.

                                Yes, it was uncalled for ... which is why I responded in kind (*). I accept the apology. And I do not hold grudges. (*) Maybe one of these days the little kiddies who like to whine about what a meanie I am will figure you that I merely give them what they ask for ... after they ask for it.

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                                  You know, there are other ways of emphasising words.

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                                  I generally reserve itlalics for phrases or for foreign words. I'll offer you a deal: *YOU* attempt to convey tone as you wish and *I* will attempt to convey tone as I wish, and you can then keep your little mouth shut about my choice.

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                                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                    It used to be just a scarf until Arafat popularised its use and glorified the terrorist sentiments behind it. It is akin to the swastika in that the original meaning of the symbol bore little or no relation to what it came to mean. I agree that it is just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs. Of course the bizarre side is that it is standard head gear for many in the middle east and its roots go back even further. It is not the scarf that is the problem: it is what it symbolises.

                                    me, me, me

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                                    :zzz:

                                    digital man wrote:

                                    just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs

                                    Does that statement of yours also apply here [^] Just showing how nonsensical the issue can become !!!

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                                    • O Oakman

                                      fat_boy wrote:

                                      That scarf is a symbol of death. Terrorist death. Beheading with a knife kind of death. Stoning death. Nasty, grim stuff

                                      You really have lost it, haven't you? I could do your entire rap on any prop in the ad. You might as well start claiming that every man who has a beard is a terrorist sympathizer. Or every muslim woman who wears a burka is expressing sympathy for all suicide bombers. Or that every member of the Green Berets is French. What a load of horseshit is dribbling from your lips.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      You really have lost it, haven't you?

                                      My Windows 7 DVD? Yes, I cant find the bugger anywhere, and I just trashed the install...

                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      I could do your entire rap on any prop in the ad

                                      I doubt gansta rap is going to work too well with a donut. Or a cup of coffee...

                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      You might as well start claiming that every man who has a beard is a terrorist sympathizer.

                                      Any WHITE man who goes for the full Islamic job, yes, I would. Look at Richard Reed for example. A clear example of what you say actually being correct, which, though unintentional, makes a first.

                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      Or every muslim woman who wears a burka is expressing sympathy for all suicide bombers

                                      Do you know for sure she doesnt? Any woman in the west wearing a Burkah is clearly showing loyalty to Islam, and no the culture she lives in. Just how far does that loyalty go? Well, heres one who's loyalty clearly goes all the way:a few picks of Burkah clad women in London doing just that: [^]

                                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        You really have lost it, haven't you?

                                        My Windows 7 DVD? Yes, I cant find the bugger anywhere, and I just trashed the install...

                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        I could do your entire rap on any prop in the ad

                                        I doubt gansta rap is going to work too well with a donut. Or a cup of coffee...

                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        You might as well start claiming that every man who has a beard is a terrorist sympathizer.

                                        Any WHITE man who goes for the full Islamic job, yes, I would. Look at Richard Reed for example. A clear example of what you say actually being correct, which, though unintentional, makes a first.

                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        Or every muslim woman who wears a burka is expressing sympathy for all suicide bombers

                                        Do you know for sure she doesnt? Any woman in the west wearing a Burkah is clearly showing loyalty to Islam, and no the culture she lives in. Just how far does that loyalty go? Well, heres one who's loyalty clearly goes all the way:a few picks of Burkah clad women in London doing just that: [^]

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        Thanks for proving my point so succinctly. I'll let Chuck Norris know you called him a terrorist.

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                                          :zzz:

                                          digital man wrote:

                                          just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs

                                          Does that statement of yours also apply here [^] Just showing how nonsensical the issue can become !!!

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                                          Its not an arabic scarf is it.

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