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  • N Nish Nishant

    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

    American women troops in in KSA don't wear Hijab so the other foreign women in Riyadh and other don't practise Islamic dress. I think you guys trust in media more than your past religion

    I know a few people (from my state) who have lived/worked in Saudi and the women had to wear the hijab when they went out and also could not drive. That's what I based my observations on. If this has now changed, that's great news then.

    Regards, Nish


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    The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

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      The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

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      Ilíon wrote:

      The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

      :wtf: That's so completely inhumane!

      Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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        Ilíon wrote:

        The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

        :wtf: That's so completely inhumane!

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        That's so completely inhumane!

        Of course it's inhumane, it's Islam!

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          It's not ad-hominem since I was stating a well observed fact.

          me, me, me

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          ad-hominem, unless I am mistaken, is a personal attack, not necessarially obne which is false, just personal, so I believe Adman is right.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            ad-hominem, unless I am mistaken, is a personal attack, not necessarially obne which is false, just personal, so I believe Adman is right.

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            fat_boy wrote:

            ad-hominem, unless I am mistaken, is a personal attack, not necessarially obne which is false, just personal, so I believe Adman is right.

            You're mistaken, and Adnan is wrong. But then, so is Zero, the Littlest Digit. An insult and an ad hominem are two different things, beginning with: and ad hominem is an argument (and it isn't *necessarily* invalid), but an insult is merely an assertion.

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              fat_boy wrote:

              ad-hominem, unless I am mistaken, is a personal attack, not necessarially obne which is false, just personal, so I believe Adman is right.

              You're mistaken, and Adnan is wrong. But then, so is Zero, the Littlest Digit. An insult and an ad hominem are two different things, beginning with: and ad hominem is an argument (and it isn't *necessarily* invalid), but an insult is merely an assertion.

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              Really, your head must look a fucking mess from the inside.# I just stated ad-hominem is a personal attck, biot a fallacy, you call me wrong, and then state the same thing. (Thats defining 'personal' as 'of the person' or 'individual' not 'personal' as 'insult' which seems to be your deffinition)

              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                There was no Pakistan to colonize.

                Technically, there was no single-India either :-) Just a bunch of disconnected kingdoms.

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                The lands of the present republics of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and much more, were collectively known by various names (all approximating India) far before the British even knew of them. They just weren't a single political entity.

                Cheers, Vikram.


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                  Really, your head must look a fucking mess from the inside.# I just stated ad-hominem is a personal attck, biot a fallacy, you call me wrong, and then state the same thing. (Thats defining 'personal' as 'of the person' or 'individual' not 'personal' as 'insult' which seems to be your deffinition)

                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  fat_boy wrote:

                  Really, your head must look a f***ing mess from the inside.# I just stated ad-hominem is a personal attck, biot a fallacy, you call me wrong, and then state the same thing. (Thats defining 'personal' as 'of the person' or 'individual' not 'personal' as 'insult' which seems to be your deffinition)

                  No, Lardy_boy, you are mistaken. Or, since this seems to be all that you understand:

                  fat_boy wrote:

                  Really, your head [really is] a f***ing mess from the inside.#

                  A 'personal attack' is not an argument. An 'ad hominem' *is* an argument. And, whether the content of the 'ad hominem' argument is true is a different issue than whether the argument is valid (valid in general as an argument, and validly used in the circumstance).

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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    Really, your head must look a f***ing mess from the inside.# I just stated ad-hominem is a personal attck, biot a fallacy, you call me wrong, and then state the same thing. (Thats defining 'personal' as 'of the person' or 'individual' not 'personal' as 'insult' which seems to be your deffinition)

                    No, Lardy_boy, you are mistaken. Or, since this seems to be all that you understand:

                    fat_boy wrote:

                    Really, your head [really is] a f***ing mess from the inside.#

                    A 'personal attack' is not an argument. An 'ad hominem' *is* an argument. And, whether the content of the 'ad hominem' argument is true is a different issue than whether the argument is valid (valid in general as an argument, and validly used in the circumstance).

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                    Sorry, I am no longer able to understand your reasoning and so cant offere a counter argument.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      "Brittish law is oppressive"[^] Yes, it made you dress up as Darth Vader didnt it?

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      They look like KKK for blacks...

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