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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Oakman wrote:

    Nonetheless, I wonder why, after having called almost everyone here a fool or a liar or ignorant or all three, you try so desperately to get us to agree with you. . .

    He's a nutccase, that's why. I'm just waiting for him to do something in the name of god, like Assnan's butt buddies.

    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

    I'm just waiting for him to do something in the name of god, like Assnan's butt buddies.

    You've considered that possibility, too? I wonder if Chris has a plan of action if he starts posting messages saying the angel of the Lord has told him to lock and load. . . .

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      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

      I find Europe to be a pretty nice place to live in

      As is your right. The people are generally nice, the culture and food are great, the scenery and historic architecture is awesome. But despite all that, its just too damn socialist for my tastes. Hell, current US policy is too damn socialist for me.

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      Mike Mullikin wrote:

      Hell, current US policy is too damn socialist for me.

      How about Arizona territory, circa 1880? ;)

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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        We are on the verge of becoming what the hard core left has struggled to achieve for most of their adult lives.

        Locked in endless war in the Middle East? Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam? We won't hold out breath.

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        IamChrisMcCall wrote:

        Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam? We won't hold out breath

        You were around then?

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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          We are on the verge of becoming what the hard core left has struggled to achieve for most of their adult lives.

          Locked in endless war in the Middle East? Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam? We won't hold out breath.

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          IamChrisMcCall wrote:

          Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam

          :omg: Nixon was a lefty? :omg:

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            Mike Mullikin wrote:

            Hell, current US policy is too damn socialist for me.

            How about Arizona territory, circa 1880? ;)

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            Oakman wrote:

            How about Arizona territory, circa 1880?

            Closer, but still a little too far left. ;)

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              IamChrisMcCall wrote:

              Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam

              :omg: Nixon was a lefty? :omg:

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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              Nixon was a lefty?

              Only a fellow traveler. Ford, however, kept his Communist Party Membership Card in his wallet. And he wore a Socialists Decoder Ring. Kissenger was so far left he actually negotiated with the North Vietnamese -- without precoditions. :omg:

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                IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam? We won't hold out breath

                You were around then?

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                Oakman wrote:

                You were around then?

                I wasn't old enough to do anything about it, but by "us" I mean smelly hippies.

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                  IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                  Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam

                  :omg: Nixon was a lefty? :omg:

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                  So it was Nixon's fault we lost? Get your story straight.

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                    So it was Nixon's fault we lost? Get your story straight.

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                    Ummmmm... one of us is confused. :confused: Did you not imply that the left was responsible for getting America out of Vietnam? Didn't 2 consecutive Democratic administrations (Kennedy & Johnson) escalate the war? Didn't a Republican administration (Nixon) finally pull the troops from Vietnam? :confused: :confused: :confused:

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                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      I find Europe to be a pretty nice place to live in

                      As is your right. The people are generally nice, the culture and food are great, the scenery and historic architecture is awesome. But despite all that, its just too damn socialist for my tastes. Hell, current US policy is too damn socialist for me.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Well, of course, I have no love for lefty politics. I hope they'll see the light some day.. :)

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        I'm just waiting for him to do something in the name of god, like Assnan's butt buddies.

                        You've considered that possibility, too? I wonder if Chris has a plan of action if he starts posting messages saying the angel of the Lord has told him to lock and load. . . .

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Oakman wrote:

                        You've considered that possibility, too?

                        Not only have I considered that possibility, it's my final conclusion! I think you hit the nail on the head a couple of weeks ago with your psychoanalysis of him.

                        -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                          Ummmmm... one of us is confused. :confused: Did you not imply that the left was responsible for getting America out of Vietnam? Didn't 2 consecutive Democratic administrations (Kennedy & Johnson) escalate the war? Didn't a Republican administration (Nixon) finally pull the troops from Vietnam? :confused: :confused: :confused:

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                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          Ummmmm... one of us is confused.

                          Yeah dude that would be you. Take a deep breath, re-read my posts and think to yourself "Who was responsible for the United States withdrawing from Vietnam?" Then go ahead and post your answer as a reply here. Hint: it wasn't any US President.

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                            Ummmmm... one of us is confused. :confused: Did you not imply that the left was responsible for getting America out of Vietnam? Didn't 2 consecutive Democratic administrations (Kennedy & Johnson) escalate the war? Didn't a Republican administration (Nixon) finally pull the troops from Vietnam? :confused: :confused: :confused:

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                            Mike Mullikin wrote:

                            Didn't 2 consecutive Democratic administrations (Kennedy & Johnson) escalate the war?

                            Are you calling LBJ a dove? Ha ha, get your history straight, Kennedy did not escalate Vietnam, LBJ (not a liberal by any stretch) did so against the will of the American people, especially the left. The left, through decades of grassroots protest, eventually pressured the government to withdraw. Now we know, with hindisght, that the American left (of which I am proudly a part) was right all along, and we saved the US armed forces literally tens of thousands of lives. Nobody ever thanked us, though. We either get blamed for "losing" (which is a joke, we only lost by participating) or the sacrifices forgotten altoghether. And nobody learned their lesson. When we eventually drag the US out of Iraq, we'll get blamed for losing for another generation :(

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                              Mike Mullikin wrote:

                              Ummmmm... one of us is confused.

                              Yeah dude that would be you. Take a deep breath, re-read my posts and think to yourself "Who was responsible for the United States withdrawing from Vietnam?" Then go ahead and post your answer as a reply here. Hint: it wasn't any US President.

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                              IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                              Yeah dude that would be you. Take a deep breath, re-read my posts

                              Geee... since the thread is about Obama and Stan referenced the left and you said "we" I think it is only fair to assume that you meant Democrats. Since that obviously is not the case... If you meant radical leftist protesters then you may want to reconsider your political alliances since the Democratic administrations ignored you in the 60's. It took a crooked Republican POTUS to respond. :rolleyes:

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                                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                Didn't 2 consecutive Democratic administrations (Kennedy & Johnson) escalate the war?

                                Are you calling LBJ a dove? Ha ha, get your history straight, Kennedy did not escalate Vietnam, LBJ (not a liberal by any stretch) did so against the will of the American people, especially the left. The left, through decades of grassroots protest, eventually pressured the government to withdraw. Now we know, with hindisght, that the American left (of which I am proudly a part) was right all along, and we saved the US armed forces literally tens of thousands of lives. Nobody ever thanked us, though. We either get blamed for "losing" (which is a joke, we only lost by participating) or the sacrifices forgotten altoghether. And nobody learned their lesson. When we eventually drag the US out of Iraq, we'll get blamed for losing for another generation :(

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                                IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                Ha ha, get your history straight, Kennedy did not escalate Vietnam

                                Wanna rethink?[^]

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  You were around then?

                                  I wasn't old enough to do anything about it, but by "us" I mean smelly hippies.

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                                  IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                  I mean smelly hippies

                                  Well, your history teacher got it wrong. Most hippies smelled of patchouli oil, and sandlewood. The guys who smelled were the G.I.'s who were in the boonies for a couple of months at a time - especially the ones that came back smelling like copper 'cause their wounds were fresh or like shit cause their sphincter let go when they died. The hippies stopped demonstrating the day after Nixon cancelled the draft in 1973. The soldiers and marines came home in 1975 when the U.S. Congress cut off funds.

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                                    IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                    I mean smelly hippies

                                    Well, your history teacher got it wrong. Most hippies smelled of patchouli oil, and sandlewood. The guys who smelled were the G.I.'s who were in the boonies for a couple of months at a time - especially the ones that came back smelling like copper 'cause their wounds were fresh or like shit cause their sphincter let go when they died. The hippies stopped demonstrating the day after Nixon cancelled the draft in 1973. The soldiers and marines came home in 1975 when the U.S. Congress cut off funds.

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    The hippies stopped demonstrating the day after Nixon cancelled the draft in 1973. The soldiers and marines came home in 1975 when the U.S. Congress cut off funds.

                                    Well, if you look at Milikins link a little further down this thread there were only 50 Americans in Vietnam in 73. Clearly they came home way before 75.

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      The hippies stopped demonstrating the day after Nixon cancelled the draft in 1973. The soldiers and marines came home in 1975 when the U.S. Congress cut off funds.

                                      Well, if you look at Milikins link a little further down this thread there were only 50 Americans in Vietnam in 73. Clearly they came home way before 75.

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                                      Jon may be referring to soldiers in Cambodia, Laos, Thailand as well.

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                                        Jon may be referring to soldiers in Cambodia, Laos, Thailand as well.

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                                        Not that that would change anything.

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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          We are on the verge of becoming what the hard core left has struggled to achieve for most of their adult lives.

                                          Locked in endless war in the Middle East? Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam? We won't hold out breath.

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                                          IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                                          Are you planning on thanking us for getting America out of Vietnam?

                                          The only thing your side did was to turn a victory into a defeat. Just as you will do in Iraq.

                                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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