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Rep. Kucinich introduces articles of impeachment against President Bush

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  • B Brady Kelly

    Yes, these online polls really are way off. ;P

    My blog at blogspot.com

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    Brady Kelly wrote:

    Yes, these online polls really are way off. ;P

    That's certainly a possibility to keep in mind. But on the other hand, if that one wasn't way off then you're even more hopelessly left than even I could have imagined. That's scary, don't you think?

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    • I IamChrisMcCall

      Mike Gaskey wrote:

      please, do not confuse the lad with a fact.

      My statement was correct. We did not elect the last Bush, during the 2000 election. Now be quiet when the men are talking, please.

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      IamChrisMcCall wrote:

      Now be quiet when the men are talking, please.

      Why, can't you hear us,sonny?

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      • S Stan Shannon

        Excellent. 'bout damn time. BTW, the reason it was buried is because, once again, the media is trying to protect the democrats. They well know that an overt leftist attack on the commander in chief that results in no convictions of any kind (because nothing wrong was done) would not only expose them for what they really are, but it would also cripple any future democrat president who needs to do exactly the same thing. Your usefullness to your party is already at an end. You are now an unnecessary leftist dupe. They are now going to do evreything they can to pretend that wackos like you don't exist.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Philadelphia Enquirer: Obama would ask his AG to "immediately review" potential of crimes in Bush White House[^]

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          Excellent. 'bout damn time. BTW, the reason it was buried is because, once again, the media is trying to protect the democrats. They well know that an overt leftist attack on the commander in chief that results in no convictions of any kind (because nothing wrong was done) would not only expose them for what they really are, but it would also cripple any future democrat president who needs to do exactly the same thing. Your usefullness to your party is already at an end. You are now an unnecessary leftist dupe. They are now going to do evreything they can to pretend that wackos like you don't exist.

          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          it would also cripple any future democrat president who needs to do exactly the same thing.

          Lie about WMD so he can invade Iran and secure a large supply of cheap oil for the US?

          Stan Shannon wrote:

          Your usefullness to your party is already at an end. You are now an unnecessary leftist dupe. They are now going to do evreything they can to pretend that wackos like you don't exist.

          Who are you talking to, McClellan?

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            it would also cripple any future democrat president who needs to do exactly the same thing.

            Lie about WMD so he can invade Iran and secure a large supply of cheap oil for the US?

            Stan Shannon wrote:

            Your usefullness to your party is already at an end. You are now an unnecessary leftist dupe. They are now going to do evreything they can to pretend that wackos like you don't exist.

            Who are you talking to, McClellan?

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            Oakman wrote:

            Lie about WMD so he can invade Iran and secure a large supply of cheap oil for the US?

            Out of curiosity, when are we gonna get the large supply of cheap oil from Iraq? Just saying...

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              Philadelphia Enquirer: Obama would ask his AG to "immediately review" potential of crimes in Bush White House[^]

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              Ilíon wrote:

              Philadelphia Enquirer

              Nope. Philadelphia Daily News. Read Much? :laugh: You think Bush will issue blanket pardons to everyone who served in the Whitehouse?

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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                it would also cripple any future democrat president who needs to do exactly the same thing.

                Lie about WMD so he can invade Iran and secure a large supply of cheap oil for the US?

                Stan Shannon wrote:

                Your usefullness to your party is already at an end. You are now an unnecessary leftist dupe. They are now going to do evreything they can to pretend that wackos like you don't exist.

                Who are you talking to, McClellan?

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                Oakman wrote:

                Lie about WMD so he can invade Iran and secure a large supply of cheap oil for the US?

                Fine - prove it. Go for it, please.... (Actually that would be a good reason to invade, I wish it were true, it would make me feel better about voting for him.)

                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  Oakman wrote:

                  Lie about WMD so he can invade Iran and secure a large supply of cheap oil for the US?

                  Out of curiosity, when are we gonna get the large supply of cheap oil from Iraq? Just saying...

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                  Mike Mullikin wrote:

                  Out of curiosity, when are we gonna get the large supply of cheap oil from Iraq? Just saying...

                  Any day now. After all Cheney said that Iraq oil would pay for the cost of the war, right?

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                    Philadelphia Enquirer: Obama would ask his AG to "immediately review" potential of crimes in Bush White House[^]

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                    Fine by me. There is nothing I want more than for the democrat party to take responsibility for rendering the commaner in chief impotent to defend the nation.

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Oakman wrote:

                      Lie about WMD so he can invade Iran and secure a large supply of cheap oil for the US?

                      Fine - prove it. Go for it, please.... (Actually that would be a good reason to invade, I wish it were true, it would make me feel better about voting for him.)

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      Fine - prove it.

                      The innocent proclaim their innocence. Only the guilty hide behind "can't prove it!"

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                      • I Ilion

                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                        Yes, these online polls really are way off. ;P

                        That's certainly a possibility to keep in mind. But on the other hand, if that one wasn't way off then you're even more hopelessly left than even I could have imagined. That's scary, don't you think?

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                        Ilíon wrote:

                        you're even more hopelessly left than even I could have imagined

                        Have you ever accused anyone of being too far to the right for your taste? George Lincoln Rockwell, maybe?

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                        • D DemonPossessed

                          IamChrisMcCall wrote:

                          (you are outclassed, just walk away)

                          Sure he is...[^]

                          I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

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                          DemonPossessed wrote:

                          Sure he is...[^]

                          Excellent memory!

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                          • O Oakman

                            Stan Shannon wrote:

                            Fine - prove it.

                            The innocent proclaim their innocence. Only the guilty hide behind "can't prove it!"

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            Only the guilty hide behind "can't prove it!"

                            Then it shouldn't be hard to get a conviction. Go ahead, I dare ya...

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                            • S Stan Shannon

                              Oakman wrote:

                              Only the guilty hide behind "can't prove it!"

                              Then it shouldn't be hard to get a conviction. Go ahead, I dare ya...

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              Then it shouldn't be hard to get a conviction. Go ahead, I dare ya...

                              You're preaching to the choir. I figger that unless Bush goes with the blanket pardon there may be as many convictions coming out of the present Administration as there were from the Nixon crowd.

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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                Then it shouldn't be hard to get a conviction. Go ahead, I dare ya...

                                You're preaching to the choir. I figger that unless Bush goes with the blanket pardon there may be as many convictions coming out of the present Administration as there were from the Nixon crowd.

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                                I honestly doubt it. This has all been nothing but political gamesmanship from the very beginning. The Democrats know full well that Bush and Co. have not done anything that will stand up in court, and will not pursue charges once they are in power. The consequencies for thier own leadership would be too risky. Only a moron would actually believe that a course of action which has verifiably resulted in reduced terrorism should be brought to trial. But, hey, there is nothing I would love better than for the dems to do so.

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  Then it shouldn't be hard to get a conviction. Go ahead, I dare ya...

                                  You're preaching to the choir. I figger that unless Bush goes with the blanket pardon there may be as many convictions coming out of the present Administration as there were from the Nixon crowd.

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  I figger that unless Bush goes with the blanket pardon there may be as many convictions coming out of the present Administration as there were from the Nixon crowd.

                                  for example?

                                  Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                  • S Stan Shannon

                                    I honestly doubt it. This has all been nothing but political gamesmanship from the very beginning. The Democrats know full well that Bush and Co. have not done anything that will stand up in court, and will not pursue charges once they are in power. The consequencies for thier own leadership would be too risky. Only a moron would actually believe that a course of action which has verifiably resulted in reduced terrorism should be brought to trial. But, hey, there is nothing I would love better than for the dems to do so.

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

                                    modified on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:10 PM

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    The Democrats know full well that Bush and Co. have not done anything that will stand up in court,

                                    I think they've got as much on Cheney, Libby and Rove as the Republicans had on Clinton. I think there's good reason to believe the blanket pardon route is being discussed in the East Wing. But I hope the Administration isn't worried. They'll do a poorer job of covering their tracks.

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      I figger that unless Bush goes with the blanket pardon there may be as many convictions coming out of the present Administration as there were from the Nixon crowd.

                                      for example?

                                      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                      I don't think we've heard the last of the outing of Valerie Plame.

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        The Democrats know full well that Bush and Co. have not done anything that will stand up in court,

                                        I think they've got as much on Cheney, Libby and Rove as the Republicans had on Clinton. I think there's good reason to believe the blanket pardon route is being discussed in the East Wing. But I hope the Administration isn't worried. They'll do a poorer job of covering their tracks.

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                                        Except that we are not talking about blow jobs now. We are talking about national defense. There is a lot more on the line. If the dems win, there will be no reason to take the chance on suddenly finding themselves vulnerable to even more charges of being soft on protecting the nation. If they put the Bush administration of trial for how it has conducted its military efforts, and that is followed by another major terrorist attack, what do they do? If Bush's efforts were responsible for crippling terrorist activities, they won't be able to use them. Public perception is everything.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        • O Oakman

                                          I don't think we've heard the last of the outing of Valerie Plame.

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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          I don't think we've heard the last of the outing of Valerie Plame.

                                          possibly, but were I the judge I'd throw that out of court. She was a desk bound analyst, not an under cover operative. Hardly worth debating but it will be interesting to watch it play out.

                                          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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