Ahhhh.. Plagiarism at its best... [modified]

Oakman · modified on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:18 PM

Paul, I am wondering if you meant for this thread to be in Suggestions where Chris will see it?

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

Paul Groetzner

It would make a good suggestion, but no, I was ranting :P So given there's supposed to be licensing & copyrights does anyone actually enforce them? Paul

Oakman

I understand your anger. Suggestion is the best place to report plagiarism. Where is the original code posted Your statement about being in comments didn't narrow it down very much. Chris will not allow plagiarised articles to remain on CP. He's also been known to get legally pissy about other sites stealing content from here.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

MarkB777 · modified on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:18 PM

Paul Groetzner wrote:

Don't you just love it when someone copies your work and takes credit for it?

I can't spot anywhere in his entry where he is actually claiming the idea is his. It says he searched around on google for the best solutions. This is a common problem in the academic industry, where people knowingly (or unwittingly) publish the same general idea in slightly different configurations. If he did use your idea, he should have referenced it.

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Paul Groetzner

His claim is in a comment on my article: "I've blogged on a simpler way to use Oracle from C#:". That to me implies he is claiming what he posted as his own work. Although his sample code is different, the idea of using the Oracle Instant Client files within a project (the core of my article) is the same. He should indeed reference my material/link in his blog.

Oakman

Paul Groetzner wrote:

He should indeed reference my material/link in his blog.

He does now and he's published your comment. He didn't publish mine which used stronger language.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

Paul Groetzner

I wished I could have seen your comment ;) I went and posted one myself which hopefully will get posted (unless he's a coward and deletes it). I didn't use any language so it's safe to post. I also posted it to my articles comment area: My Rant[^] He's got some nerve. His claims can't even hold water! Inspired by? That's a joke. Should be 'A Cheap Knockoff of....'

Oakman

Me: No, what you actually have done is plagiarise someone else's work, and claim it as your own. Him: You're half right: I was inspired by the article here: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/database/C\_\_Instant\_Oracle.aspx, however there is a difference: my method does not require the tnsnames.ora. Me: inspired, my ass - you're a thief. Do your employers know how you get your "inspiration?"

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

Paul Groetzner

Oakman wrote:

Him: You're half right: I was inspired by the article here: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/database/C\_\_Instant\_Oracle.aspx, however there is a difference: my method does not require the tnsnames.ora.

That's funny.. I guess he must have missed this part:

An alternative to including the tsanames.ora file is to include it within
your connection string as the following demonstrates:
private static string CONNECTION_STRING = "User Id=myUserID;Password=myPassword; Data Source=(DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=TCP)(HOST=myserver.server.com) (PORT=yourPort#))(CONNECT_DATA=(SID=yourSID)));";

This was originally brought up in a comment in my article by another person (here[^]) So he can't take credit for coming up with that either... That "inspiration" comes from Mark Benzel on May 15th 2007. The great thing about Karma is that it has a funny way of turning around and biting you in the ass. The great thing about the internet is it is just as easy to get caught for plagiarizing as it is to plagiarize ;) He'll get his in the end...

Oakman wrote:

Me: inspired, my ass - you're a thief. Do your employers know how you get your "inspiration?"

Can't say for sure if he has an employer. I do know what he doesn't have. Honesty, integrity, common decency, respect are a few things that come to mind. Paul

Paul Groetzner

Oh and he renamed his title from "Connecting to Oracle from C# / Winforms / Asp.net / .Net 2" to Connecting to Oracle from C# / Winforms / Asp.net without tsanames.ora" as if that makes all the difference :P His original title is cached (for the moment) in google[^]. Sad really :P