Learn a Foreign Language As an Engineer?
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Cobol?
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Is it foreign or obsolete?
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"I'm working on an undergraduate degree in computer engineering in the US, and I'm a native English-speaking citizen. In fact, English is the only language that I know. Maybe it's not the same at other schools, but for the engineering program at mine, a foreign language is not required. If my plans are to one day be involved in research, is it worth my time to learn a foreign language? If so, which one?"Slashdot[^] ehhe Interesting -
"I'm working on an undergraduate degree in computer engineering in the US, and I'm a native English-speaking citizen. In fact, English is the only language that I know. Maybe it's not the same at other schools, but for the engineering program at mine, a foreign language is not required. If my plans are to one day be involved in research, is it worth my time to learn a foreign language? If so, which one?"Slashdot[^] ehhe InterestingHindi or Arabic would be interesting. Maybe spanish or some variant.
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Hindi or Arabic would be interesting. Maybe spanish or some variant.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
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Is it foreign or obsolete?
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"I'm working on an undergraduate degree in computer engineering in the US, and I'm a native English-speaking citizen. In fact, English is the only language that I know. Maybe it's not the same at other schools, but for the engineering program at mine, a foreign language is not required. If my plans are to one day be involved in research, is it worth my time to learn a foreign language? If so, which one?"Slashdot[^] ehhe Interesting -
"I'm working on an undergraduate degree in computer engineering in the US, and I'm a native English-speaking citizen. In fact, English is the only language that I know. Maybe it's not the same at other schools, but for the engineering program at mine, a foreign language is not required. If my plans are to one day be involved in research, is it worth my time to learn a foreign language? If so, which one?"Slashdot[^] ehhe InterestingAdnan Siddiqi wrote:
If so, which one?
Chinese, since they can't speak English and chances are that everyone might get a Chinese boss in the future. ;P OTH, I will never learn French or Italian. Women are so sexy when whispering in these languages that I don't want to understand them; it might break the fetish. :love:
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There is a university in the UK teaching it because so many financial institutions rely on it. Their graduates are doing well. Elaine :rose:
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Ah yes, COBOL students or to give them their Latin designation "Useless Skillius".
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Ah yes, COBOL students or to give them their Latin designation "Useless Skillius".
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
It's not a field I've any interest in going into but given that the only other sort of COBOL programmer available is the greybeard, and given the amount of legacy codethulu's lurking in megacorps, anyone willing to study and work in it can probably command a decent salary premium right out of school.
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"I'm working on an undergraduate degree in computer engineering in the US, and I'm a native English-speaking citizen. In fact, English is the only language that I know. Maybe it's not the same at other schools, but for the engineering program at mine, a foreign language is not required. If my plans are to one day be involved in research, is it worth my time to learn a foreign language? If so, which one?"Slashdot[^] ehhe InterestingItalian then Spanish are probably two of the easier European languages to learn as they don't have too many sounds that English does not have and their grammar is relatively easy compared to German or Russian. French is a lot harder for an English speaker mainly because of verb irregularities and it is rare to find an Englishman/Amercian with a half decent French accent. However Mandarin is probably the language to learn with China's growth developing fast. End of my opinionated opinions ;)
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Italian then Spanish are probably two of the easier European languages to learn as they don't have too many sounds that English does not have and their grammar is relatively easy compared to German or Russian. French is a lot harder for an English speaker mainly because of verb irregularities and it is rare to find an Englishman/Amercian with a half decent French accent. However Mandarin is probably the language to learn with China's growth developing fast. End of my opinionated opinions ;)
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
GuyThiebaut wrote:
French is a lot harder for an English speaker mainly because of verb irregularities
Well of course it is. After all, English doesn't put up with such things. And while we're on the subject, I've never understood why the French can't grasp the proper pronunciations of tough, cough, hiccough, though, brought, and through. ;)
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Ah yes, COBOL students or to give them their Latin designation "Useless Skillius".
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Ah yes, COBOL students or to give them their Latin designation "Useless Skillius".
not really, there's still a reasonably strong demand and they can command more than C#, C++, C, VB or JAVA programmers. Insurance companies and many other companies that are supported by "back office" systems, hefty number crunching / data moevment systems, still rely on COBOL based systems. Theses companies are attempting to move off of these systems but they're reliable and difficult to replace. Mainframe assembler programmers can demand even more and while there are fewer and fewer such systems there are even fewer programmers with that skill set. Autocoder and the predecessor, SPS, are in fact dead languages.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
If so, which one?"
Hindi. You should learn it, Adnan. Maybe you could get a real job.
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In a Call center? Jokes apart, Hindi is similar to Urdu when speaking because Hindi was derived from Urdu. Hope you learnt something new today.
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
French is a lot harder for an English speaker mainly because of verb irregularities
Well of course it is. After all, English doesn't put up with such things. And while we're on the subject, I've never understood why the French can't grasp the proper pronunciations of tough, cough, hiccough, though, brought, and through. ;)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Probably for the same reason why native English speakers can't grasp the pronunciation of 'voiture' for example. That final guttural 'r' is killing you. ;P
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In a Call center? Jokes apart, Hindi is similar to Urdu when speaking because Hindi was derived from Urdu. Hope you learnt something new today.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Hindi was derived from Urdu
Rubbish.
Cheers, Vikram.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
If so, which one?"
Hindi. You should learn it, Adnan. Maybe you could get a real job.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
1. Adnan knows Urdu which is mutually intelligible with Hindi. 2. If your point was that he could find a real job in India, I certainly wouldn't welcome him. 3. He is, as usual, talking out of his arse when he says Hindi is derived from Urdu.
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
French is a lot harder for an English speaker mainly because of verb irregularities
Well of course it is. After all, English doesn't put up with such things. And while we're on the subject, I've never understood why the French can't grasp the proper pronunciations of tough, cough, hiccough, though, brought, and through. ;)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Try: ship, chip, sheep, cheap on a Spaniard ;)
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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Is it foreign or obsolete?
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In a Call center? Jokes apart, Hindi is similar to Urdu when speaking because Hindi was derived from Urdu. Hope you learnt something new today.