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  • I Ilion

    Rob Graham wrote:

    Given your replies to the OP, I think it was pretty clear you took the bait. It's also pretty clear that you lack the grace or maturity to admit you were had.

    What's pretty clear is that you are intensely stupid ... or inherently dishonest.

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    Oakman
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    Ilíon wrote:

    What's pretty clear is that you are intensely stupid ... or inherently dishonest.

    That really is all you say, isn't it? Over and over again, you call people making simple straightforward and extremely accurate statements, liars and stupid - because you just can't come up with anything else. You think you have made a post when you stick a link up to someone who has something to say; and you think you have provided a rebuttal by hurling two pathetic little insults at whoever has expressed their disdain most recently.

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    • I Ilion

      Paul Conrad wrote:

      Ilíon: [Oakman] may well be the most dishonest. Paul Conrad: What makes you say that?

      :suss: Have you paid no attention whatsoever to his constant behavior? Have you paid no attention to his constant misrepresentations of others (and not only of me)? Have you never noticed that so much of what he posts is intended only to "casue trouble" (that's the specific words he used recently in making an accusation about some newcomer) -- even as he prematurely or even falsely accuses others of this some character flaw? Have you *really* never noticed that when it suits him, he will employ blatant illogic and outright irrationality -- even as accuses other of this flaw? (Which is to say, he behaves exactly as "the community" as forever falsely accusing me of behaving.) Have you never noticed that he will assert (one cannot honestly call what he does argumentation) "A" if his target is one person (say, Stan, or me), and that he will assert "not-A" if his target is someone else (say, you)? And that sometimes he does this within a single thread? Do you *really* not understand that switching to illogic and/or irrationality to make one's "argument" is the very essence of dishonesty? Do you really not understand that the *refusal* to think and "argue" rationally and logically is the most dishonest of all behaviors, is the worst of all lies? Such refusal is not merely lying about an individual fact, it is lying about the very nature of truth and of reality. There are three (and *only* three) general categories of explanation for why someone does not correctly understand something: 1) Inability to understand the thing 2) Failure to understand some prior thing or things 3) Disinclination to understand the thing Now, of course, any *specific* explanation may involve a complex interplay of these possibilities. But, when one separates out the various threads, when one chases each component down to its core or root-cause, it will always fall into one of these three general categories. The reader may notice that 2) is almost restatement of the initial fact-to-be-explained; it is recursive: this is why there are no other, and can be no other, than these three general categories. Option 1) almost never applies, though it is often used as the easy way out or the easy explanation. But, in truth, there are very few people in this world who simply cannot understand some thing -- no matter wha

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      Ilíon wrote:

      this SandBox really[^] "just a place to vent a litle steam and maybe, have some fun with unlike minded people" ... which is to say, *everything* here is a just a joke? Or is there a double-standard, one for "the community" and a quite different one (or multiples) for everyone else

      It's a double standard. One for the white hats like me; another for the bottom-scrapings like you.

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      • P Paul Conrad

        Oakman wrote:

        Warwick Davis can do a cameo as Adnan. . .

        Definite yes, maybe Verne Troyer* if Mr. Davis doesn't take the offer. Seth Green* would probably do okay for Kyle.... * add some of the Austin Powers: Gold Member cast to the mix

        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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        Paul Conrad wrote:

        Seth Green* would probably do okay for Kyle.... * add some of the Austin Powers: Gold Member cast to the mix

        I blush to admit it, but I still remember him as the cool werewolf on Buffy.

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        • V Vincent Reynolds

          Oakman wrote:

          If someone wrote Ilion as a character in the movies, he'd have to be played by Pee Wee Herman.

          I'm thinking David Hyde Pierce, the guy that played Niles on "Frasier", would be better for Ilion. He'd have to girl up a bit, but I think he could pull it off.

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          Vincent Reynolds wrote:

          I'm thinking David Hyde Pierce, the guy that played Niles on "Frasier", would be better for Ilion. He'd have to girl up a bit, but I think he could pull it off.

          I hate to waste that much talent on a opera buffo character like Ilion, but you could be right. Pierce could flaunt all of Ilion's failings and make them comic on a level Pee Wee isn't able to reach

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          • R Rob Graham

            Don't you ever get tired of doing the crap that gets you banned? Are you dead set to prove you are a despicable idiot unworthy of association with any others here?

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            Ilion
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            Rob Graham wrote:

            Don't you ever get tired of doing the crap that gets you banned? Are you dead set to prove you are a despicable idiot unworthy of association with any others here?

            Why, exactly, is CSS' "joke" about "digtial man" so despicable, while your "jokes" about me are on the money? Really, now! This "family" double-standard just won't hold up in the real world.

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            • O Oakman

              Ilíon wrote:

              What's pretty clear is that you are intensely stupid ... or inherently dishonest.

              That really is all you say, isn't it? Over and over again, you call people making simple straightforward and extremely accurate statements, liars and stupid - because you just can't come up with anything else. You think you have made a post when you stick a link up to someone who has something to say; and you think you have provided a rebuttal by hurling two pathetic little insults at whoever has expressed their disdain most recently.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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              Ilion
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              Oakman wrote:

              That really is all you say, isn't it?

              The stupidity ... or lies ... you people like to repeat becomes The TrVth upon repetition, and I somehow have an obligation to call it something than what it is. You're such a fool (on top of being a "troll")!

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              • O Oakman

                Ilíon wrote:

                this SandBox really[^] "just a place to vent a litle steam and maybe, have some fun with unlike minded people" ... which is to say, *everything* here is a just a joke? Or is there a double-standard, one for "the community" and a quite different one (or multiples) for everyone else

                It's a double standard. One for the white hats like me; another for the bottom-scrapings like you.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                Ilion
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                I suppose it's far better to be a "bottom-scraper" than to be like you and be the actual "bottom."

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                • I Ilion

                  Paul Conrad wrote:

                  Ilíon: [Oakman] may well be the most dishonest. Paul Conrad: What makes you say that?

                  :suss: Have you paid no attention whatsoever to his constant behavior? Have you paid no attention to his constant misrepresentations of others (and not only of me)? Have you never noticed that so much of what he posts is intended only to "casue trouble" (that's the specific words he used recently in making an accusation about some newcomer) -- even as he prematurely or even falsely accuses others of this some character flaw? Have you *really* never noticed that when it suits him, he will employ blatant illogic and outright irrationality -- even as accuses other of this flaw? (Which is to say, he behaves exactly as "the community" as forever falsely accusing me of behaving.) Have you never noticed that he will assert (one cannot honestly call what he does argumentation) "A" if his target is one person (say, Stan, or me), and that he will assert "not-A" if his target is someone else (say, you)? And that sometimes he does this within a single thread? Do you *really* not understand that switching to illogic and/or irrationality to make one's "argument" is the very essence of dishonesty? Do you really not understand that the *refusal* to think and "argue" rationally and logically is the most dishonest of all behaviors, is the worst of all lies? Such refusal is not merely lying about an individual fact, it is lying about the very nature of truth and of reality. There are three (and *only* three) general categories of explanation for why someone does not correctly understand something: 1) Inability to understand the thing 2) Failure to understand some prior thing or things 3) Disinclination to understand the thing Now, of course, any *specific* explanation may involve a complex interplay of these possibilities. But, when one separates out the various threads, when one chases each component down to its core or root-cause, it will always fall into one of these three general categories. The reader may notice that 2) is almost restatement of the initial fact-to-be-explained; it is recursive: this is why there are no other, and can be no other, than these three general categories. Option 1) almost never applies, though it is often used as the easy way out or the easy explanation. But, in truth, there are very few people in this world who simply cannot understand some thing -- no matter wha

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  I would have like a quick concise post :zzz:

                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                  • P Paul Conrad

                    I would have like a quick concise post :zzz:

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                    Ilion
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                    Paul Conrad wrote:

                    I would have like a quick concise post :zzz:

                    But, of course. It's that double-standard, again.

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                    • O Oakman

                      Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                      I'm thinking David Hyde Pierce, the guy that played Niles on "Frasier", would be better for Ilion. He'd have to girl up a bit, but I think he could pull it off.

                      I hate to waste that much talent on a opera buffo character like Ilion, but you could be right. Pierce could flaunt all of Ilion's failings and make them comic on a level Pee Wee isn't able to reach

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      Oakman wrote:

                      I hate to waste that much talent on a opera buffo character like Ilion, but you could be right. Pierce could flaunt all of Ilion's failings and make them comic on a level Pee Wee isn't able to reach

                      Yeah. If only Larry Craig could act. When I see the tape of him calling Clinton a "nasty, bad, naughty boy", I think he and Ilion must be related in some way.

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