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    Adnan Siddiqi
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    So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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      So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

      I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all.

      Because like you, they are dumb.

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        So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

        So another dictator surrendered

        If he was a true dictator he wouldnt have surrendered.

        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

        They are initially fed by US for US interest

        Like Stalin and Pol Pot you mean? Actually Musharaf was more popular than many of your past leaders and certainly did some good for your country. But, of you want to revert to a feudal system then fair enough, we wonl;t stand in the way pf your devolvement. We might just have to take your nukles off you though.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        • A Adnan Siddiqi

          So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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          With any luck, Pakistan will return to being the economic cesspool it was before he took over. And with your new Islamic leaders, I predict you'll be at war with India within months. Enjoy his departure, things are going to be bleak soon, because you idiots kill or run off any decent leadership.

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            With any luck, Pakistan will return to being the economic cesspool it was before he took over. And with your new Islamic leaders, I predict you'll be at war with India within months. Enjoy his departure, things are going to be bleak soon, because you idiots kill or run off any decent leadership.

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            On the plus side, Adnan won't need a nightlight any more. :laugh:

            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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            • A Adnan Siddiqi

              So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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              Fine, watch what is left of Pakistan fall apart. :sigh:

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                On the plus side, Adnan won't need a nightlight any more. :laugh:

                Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                Here's wishing him a 6-pack of bottled sunshine.

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                  On the plus side, Adnan won't need a nightlight any more. :laugh:

                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                  dan neely wrote:

                  On the plus side, Adnan won't need a nightlight any more

                  Because when India gets through with Pakistan he'll glow in the dark?

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    dan neely wrote:

                    On the plus side, Adnan won't need a nightlight any more

                    Because when India gets through with Pakistan he'll glow in the dark?

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    Exactly.

                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                      Here's wishing him a 6-pack of bottled sunshine.

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                      except that RV's aren't really bottle shaped. Cones have much better aerodynamics.

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                      • A Adnan Siddiqi

                        So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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                        The keys to the nuclear arsenal are up for snatching. Hope the Pakistani political choose the successor well otherwise the Indian Sub-continent, and perhaps part of China may come to resemble the unthinkable.

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                          With any luck, Pakistan will return to being the economic cesspool it was before he took over. And with your new Islamic leaders, I predict you'll be at war with India within months. Enjoy his departure, things are going to be bleak soon, because you idiots kill or run off any decent leadership.

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                          That would not be surprising at all.

                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                            dan neely wrote:

                            On the plus side, Adnan won't need a nightlight any more

                            Because when India gets through with Pakistan he'll glow in the dark?

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            Yep.

                            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                              The keys to the nuclear arsenal are up for snatching. Hope the Pakistani political choose the successor well otherwise the Indian Sub-continent, and perhaps part of China may come to resemble the unthinkable.

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                              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                              the Indian Sub-continent, and perhaps part of China may come to resemble the unthinkable.

                              Outsourcing might not look like quite as much of a bargain then.

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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                                Umm you've got that the wrong way round. As far as I know the US played no part in Mushy siezing control and even the warmonger Blair sulked at him for a bit. True once the US saw he could be of use to them they became his best buddies and that got him into a lot of trouble at home. In fact as part of the US's were are the good guys honestly we are they are probably more responsible for his downfall than his rise in that I'll bet it was US influence that started him down the path of moderation and elected governments. True it was only after he tried to arrest everone that disagreed with him but hey every process has it's hiccups. It's also true that once they noticed the fan was starting to get a bit ripe they started looking for someone else fast.

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                                  Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                  I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all.

                                  Because like you, they are dumb.

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                                  And thanks for your dumb answer. your shoe size IQ could produce only this sentence.

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                                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                    So another dictator surrendered

                                    If he was a true dictator he wouldnt have surrendered.

                                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                    They are initially fed by US for US interest

                                    Like Stalin and Pol Pot you mean? Actually Musharaf was more popular than many of your past leaders and certainly did some good for your country. But, of you want to revert to a feudal system then fair enough, we wonl;t stand in the way pf your devolvement. We might just have to take your nukles off you though.

                                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                    Adnan Siddiqi
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                                    fat_boy wrote:

                                    true dictator

                                    what do you mean by True here? was not saddam a dictator?

                                    fat_boy wrote:

                                    Like Stalin and Pol Pot you mean?

                                    have no idea about them as such.

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                                    Actually Musharaf was more popular than many of your past leader

                                    Like what? I would like to know what out siders think about his positive achievements.

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                                    you want to revert to a feudal system then fair enough

                                    certainly you guys have no friggin idea about Pakistani politics. Musharraf created a party which was purely Feudal based because democracy and dictatorship can't lie in same slot. Apart from his party PML(Q), the other party in Karachi MQM which is controlled from his London exiled Chief is also a dictator party since only one man decides the fate of every issue of party so in reality Mush had only supported feudals who could speak his tone.

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                                    we wonl;t stand in the way pf your devolvement.

                                    well nothing will change as such but definitely it would be a bit better anyway in near or far future since he was the only who screwed up every institute, from Judiciary to Army just to show loyalty to his allies.

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                                      With any luck, Pakistan will return to being the economic cesspool it was before he took over. And with your new Islamic leaders, I predict you'll be at war with India within months. Enjoy his departure, things are going to be bleak soon, because you idiots kill or run off any decent leadership.

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                                      India can't even move his dick as long as we have nukes. Indians know it very well and they have tried a lot of times in past too.

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                                      economic cesspool it was before he took over

                                      Actually he did show dreams to common Pakistani about economy, so called booming stock market and investment while in reality it was game of few guys who had been manipulating entire stock market since the PM of Pakistan was an economic expert thus he used his evil mind to play with numbers. When reality came out, it was found out that nothing happened as such.

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                                      decent leadership

                                      He was decent for you Americans not for Pakistanis so offcourse you will mourn anyway. Majority of Pakistanis are quite happy here.

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                                        So another dictator surrendered. This time Musharraf. The dictator who was the strongest leader in Pakistani history quit like a rat when his allies back in Washington finally showed his back and he got no option. Ironically Musharraf is not being accepted by his FRIENDS country, US,UK,KSA or even TURKEY where he spent Childhood and considered his Vatican of Secularism since he is a fan of Ataturk. I Don't claim I know a lot about world dictators but observed few in my country and then guys like Saddam. One thing seems common in all. They are initially fed by US for US interest. America cunningly pampers them initially and make then feel that they are the best by providing them all kind of aid and support, then America use them for its own interest as long as they are giving output. Once they start failing, America show them back as if they they were never known. SO it's Zia or Saddam or Musharraf. They tasted similar fate despite of being educated and knowing history of past dictators. They never remember that America is just like a "client" for a prostitute. As long as prostitute has charm, she is blessed but once she loses all charm, she's thrown away like a used condom. Now if stupid prostitute starts dreaming of being a "wife" of her client then it's not client fault. I wonder why these dictators don't learn at all. Why is it so hard or is really power and money so magical that it makes one dumb enough that one even forget to use its mind. quite surprising and confusing as well.

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                                        Actually, I agree with you in some points you have made. I know you are suprised. US had a very good relationship with musharaf and the world recoginized his rule. So whats next? Are you going to a democratic election? Who is the most popular candidate to win? moderate or Extremist?

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                                          Umm you've got that the wrong way round. As far as I know the US played no part in Mushy siezing control and even the warmonger Blair sulked at him for a bit. True once the US saw he could be of use to them they became his best buddies and that got him into a lot of trouble at home. In fact as part of the US's were are the good guys honestly we are they are probably more responsible for his downfall than his rise in that I'll bet it was US influence that started him down the path of moderation and elected governments. True it was only after he tried to arrest everone that disagreed with him but hey every process has it's hiccups. It's also true that once they noticed the fan was starting to get a bit ripe they started looking for someone else fast.

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                                          Adnan Siddiqi
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                                          pseudonym67 wrote:

                                          US played no part in Mushy siezing control

                                          how sure you could be? by keeping the history in mind, I am sure US was well aware about military coup back in 99.

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