Black and White and Man and Woman - US elections
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Kant wrote:
who says he got drop dead gorgeous wife
Umm... Nobody with a working set of eyes who likes women. She's a crusty old crone. Obama's wife on the other hand...
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BoneSoft wrote:
Nobody with a working set of eyes who likes women. She's a crusty old crone.
He sees her as she was thirty years ago. The ability to do that is, I think, what keeps marriages together and makes the "until death do us part" possible. God bless him for feeling that way.
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BoneSoft wrote:
I think he just won the election
Sorry my friend, but I think you are dead wrong on this one. Better start brushing up on your Japanese.
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We shall see, just remember who told ya.
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BoneSoft wrote:
most of the right can now feel more enthusiastic about voting for the old goat.
But most of the right has never been enough to elect Republicans. They have depended on the so-called Reagan Democrats for their extraordinary number of Presidential wins. I don't see her appealing to that crowd. As her anti-abortion stance, while appealing to the Christian Right, will send every last disaffected Hillary supporter firmly into Obama's camp.
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I don't know about that. They seem to hate Obama as much as I do Hillary. There may be some of them that hold their nose and vote for Obama, but I don't think all of them will go running to him. Which makes no sense to me at all. Hillary and Obama are exacly the same.
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BoneSoft wrote:
Nobody with a working set of eyes who likes women. She's a crusty old crone.
He sees her as she was thirty years ago. The ability to do that is, I think, what keeps marriages together and makes the "until death do us part" possible. God bless him for feeling that way.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Well, true. But he's a crochety old man. I guess I was referring to everybody outside of that marriage.
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You guys can argue about it all day long. But to me the platform is far more important that experience. And up until Palin, Obama and Biden both have piss poor platforms, and McCain is a democrat that decided to be a Republican just in time to run on that ticket and essentially has no platform. Palin as the VP pick actually brings a conservative to the ticket. This may diswade a few swing votes, but I'm betting most of the right can now feel more enthusiastic about voting for the old goat.
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BoneSoft wrote:
But to me the platform is far more important that experience
you can come up with platforms day and night but if you're incopetent none of them will matter.
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BoneSoft wrote:
But to me the platform is far more important that experience
you can come up with platforms day and night but if you're incopetent none of them will matter.
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Come up with platforms? Where'd you come up with that?
jgasm wrote:
but if you're incopetent none of them will matter.
Well you got that right, Carter was proof. Are you calling Palin incompetent?
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We had some great candidates to choose from. Somehow they got dumped in the primary fiasco. I still want an explaination for that too. There's not a Republican alive that actually wants McCain.
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it is kind of weird. the GOP seems torn in two right now.
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Come up with platforms? Where'd you come up with that?
jgasm wrote:
but if you're incopetent none of them will matter.
Well you got that right, Carter was proof. Are you calling Palin incompetent?
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BoneSoft wrote:
Are you calling Palin incompetent?
i would rather mcCain live forever than her take over as President. but that is my opinion. and we all know the story behind opinions.
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I don't know about that. They seem to hate Obama as much as I do Hillary. There may be some of them that hold their nose and vote for Obama, but I don't think all of them will go running to him. Which makes no sense to me at all. Hillary and Obama are exacly the same.
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BoneSoft wrote:
Are you calling Palin incompetent?
i would rather mcCain live forever than her take over as President. but that is my opinion. and we all know the story behind opinions.
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Hmm, I was just thinking forget McCain, Palin for prez.
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it is kind of weird. the GOP seems torn in two right now.
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I may feel that way too if there are a ton of Republicans protesting the RNC because Juliani didn't win the primaries. The Democrats seem torn in two. The GOP just doesn't like the liberal Democrat that won the GOP primaries. We're torn between apathy and fright over the prostects of Obama in office. But now that there is actually a conservative on a ticket, I feel much more inclined to put out the effort to vote.
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BoneSoft wrote:
Hillary and Obama are exacly the same
Not if you are one of the senior officers I've listened to. Most of them have respect for Hillary and none for Obama.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
I'd be interested to hear their arguments. But when I say they're exactly the same, I'm looking at their platforms.
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Wow!!...This going to be exciting race. Black and White - Obama and Biden Man and Woman - McCain and Palin Could be smart move by McCain by choosing lady as Vice President candidate. (move to sway Hillary supporters)
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I don't think people will object if I raise this point - her youngest is one year old. If she became VP it would be with several children including a two year old. This must cause a conflict of interests as a VP must be in position to take over the role of president if required as well as such things as forgeign trips etc. Elaine :rose:
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I don't think people will object if I raise this point - her youngest is one year old. If she became VP it would be with several children including a two year old. This must cause a conflict of interests as a VP must be in position to take over the role of president if required as well as such things as forgeign trips etc. Elaine :rose:
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Trollslayer wrote:
VP must be in position to take over the role of president if required as well as such things as forgeign trips etc.
I'm pretty sure her husband will get lots of help in the childcare area. He'll probably be able to continue his charity work without a hiccup. As for overseas visits - ask the enlisted women with babies how they feel about a year in Iraq. If their country can ask them to do it, she damn well can do it too.
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I don't think people will object if I raise this point - her youngest is one year old. If she became VP it would be with several children including a two year old. This must cause a conflict of interests as a VP must be in position to take over the role of president if required as well as such things as forgeign trips etc. Elaine :rose:
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Trollslayer wrote:
her youngest is one year old. If she became VP it would be with several children including a two year old. This must cause a conflict of interests
Isn't that one of the primary components of the glass ceiling that women have fought long and hard to overcome?
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Rob Graham wrote:
I frankly don't give a damn what the next president's position on abortion is.
Hear hear! Some needs to tell the Republican party that the twentieth century wants its issues back. Anyone who votes for or against a candidate based on their position on abortion probably wears polyester leisure suits.
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Oakman wrote:
Hear hear! Some needs to tell the Republican party that the twentieth century wants its issues back. Anyone who votes for or against a candidate based on their position on abortion probably wears polyester leisure suits.
Ah! I see! And voting for or against a candidate solely on his position on, say, slavery, would be so 18th (or at best, 19th) century, wouldn't it?
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Oakman wrote:
Hear hear! Some needs to tell the Republican party that the twentieth century wants its issues back. Anyone who votes for or against a candidate based on their position on abortion probably wears polyester leisure suits.
Ah! I see! And voting for or against a candidate solely on his position on, say, slavery, would be so 18th (or at best, 19th) century, wouldn't it?
Ilíon wrote:
Ah! I see!
'Twould be the first time ever, Troy.
Ilíon wrote:
And voting for or against a candidate solely on his position on, say, slavery, would be so 18th (or at best, 19th) century, wouldn't it?
Absolutely. Anyone who thinks that slavery is still an important issue inside the U.S. very badly needs to loosen his pink shirt and charcoal bow-tie - go ahead, loosen them, Troy. You need to calm down. By the way - Loss of jobs in the buggy-whip industry is also not something you need to poll the candidates on.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
ANd he certainly did not design a libertarian form of government.
Sure he did: it was called the Congress of the Confederation.
Stan Shannon wrote:
libertairans are NOT constitutionalists.
Got that right. They figger no-one and no-thing grants rights to the people, or can take 'em away.
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Oakman wrote:
Congress of the Confederation
There was nothing libertarian about leaving political power concentrated at the local of government which is what the articles of confederation largely did. If you think the colonial population were just waiting for the freedom to allow abortions and homosexual marriage, you're out of your mind. They wanted power left at the local level so that the federal government could not interfer with how they chose to govern their own communities.
Oakman wrote:
They figger no-one and no-thing grants rights to the people, or can take 'em away.
Except God, of course.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
Congress of the Confederation
There was nothing libertarian about leaving political power concentrated at the local of government which is what the articles of confederation largely did. If you think the colonial population were just waiting for the freedom to allow abortions and homosexual marriage, you're out of your mind. They wanted power left at the local level so that the federal government could not interfer with how they chose to govern their own communities.
Oakman wrote:
They figger no-one and no-thing grants rights to the people, or can take 'em away.
Except God, of course.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
They wanted power left at the local level so that the federal government could not interfer with how they chose to govern their own communities.
You never been part of a New England town meeting, have you.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Except God, of course.
If he's half of what he's cracked up to be, I am quite sure he didn't appoint you to speak for him.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
They wanted power left at the local level so that the federal government could not interfer with how they chose to govern their own communities.
You never been part of a New England town meeting, have you.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Except God, of course.
If he's half of what he's cracked up to be, I am quite sure he didn't appoint you to speak for him.
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Oakman wrote:
You never been part of a New England town meeting, have you.
I've never been to New England, period.
Oakman wrote:
I am quite sure he didn't appoint you to speak for him.
I was speaking for Tom, not God. You know, the guy who theorized that our rights come from our creator. Which is the only reason earthly powers cannot deny them to us unless we give them permission to do so.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.