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  • T toxcct

    f*ck that, i'm french, not a native english speaker (like you) ! lol

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    Mark Salsbery
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    toxcct wrote:

    not a native english speaker (like you)

    LOL! I'm pretty sure the rest of the world doesn't call what we Americans speak "English" ;P

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      Mark Salsbery wrote:

      If it wasn't allowed

      shouldn't it be: "if it weren't allowed" ? :confused: :)

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      Now that DavidCrow mentions it, and the caffeine is kicking in... I'm pretty sure I was right ;P LMAO

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        Mark Salsbery wrote:

        If it wasn't allowed

        shouldn't it be: "if it weren't allowed" ? :confused: :)

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        CPallini
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        Nope. ;)

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          Hi I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared. Am I missing something?? The error says "unresolved external symbol" the call to the function is in file1.cpp where I have: myClass::myFunction(variable1, variable2); In myClass.h I have: class myClass { static void myFunction } and in myClass.cpp I have the function definition: myClass::myFunction() { //function definition } I can't call myFunction from file1.cpp As you can tell I am a novice programmer and in desperate need of explanation :(

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          Mark Salsbery
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          steph5 wrote:

          I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared. Am I missing something??

          Yes :) That would make calling any external functions impossible.

          steph5 wrote:

          I can't call myFunction from file1.cpp

          The linker can't find myClass.obj. Is myClass.cpp not part of the project? Mark

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            Hi I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared. Am I missing something?? The error says "unresolved external symbol" the call to the function is in file1.cpp where I have: myClass::myFunction(variable1, variable2); In myClass.h I have: class myClass { static void myFunction } and in myClass.cpp I have the function definition: myClass::myFunction() { //function definition } I can't call myFunction from file1.cpp As you can tell I am a novice programmer and in desperate need of explanation :(

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            CPallini
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            steph5 wrote:

            I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared.

            That's true.

            steph5 wrote:

            Am I missing something??

            Yes: in

            steph5 wrote:

            class myClass { static void myFunction }

            is not an ordinary (i.e. C-style) static function, is a static method (i.e is a member of the class even if you don't need an instance of the class to call it). :)

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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            • C CPallini

              steph5 wrote:

              I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared.

              That's true.

              steph5 wrote:

              Am I missing something??

              Yes: in

              steph5 wrote:

              class myClass { static void myFunction }

              is not an ordinary (i.e. C-style) static function, is a static method (i.e is a member of the class even if you don't need an instance of the class to call it). :)

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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              Mark Salsbery
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              CPallini wrote:

              That's true.

              Huh? I call static methods that aren't in the same source file all the time :)

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                steph5 wrote:

                I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared.

                That's true.

                steph5 wrote:

                Am I missing something??

                Yes: in

                steph5 wrote:

                class myClass { static void myFunction }

                is not an ordinary (i.e. C-style) static function, is a static method (i.e is a member of the class even if you don't need an instance of the class to call it). :)

                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                steph5
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                Any ideas how I can have a function I can call from anywhere but where I don't need an instance of the class to call it?

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                  Any ideas how I can have a function I can call from anywhere but where I don't need an instance of the class to call it?

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                  Mark Salsbery
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                  You can call a static method of a class from other cpp files! You need to link the files however. The problem is in your project - the linker isn't finding the file with the function being called. Fix that and it will work. The two files in your example ARE in the same project, right?

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                  • M Mark Salsbery

                    CPallini wrote:

                    That's true.

                    Huh? I call static methods that aren't in the same source file all the time :)

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                    steph5
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                    how?

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                    • S steph5

                      how?

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                      ////////////////////////////
                      // myClass.h
                      ////////////////////////////

                      class myClass
                      {
                      public:
                      static void StaticMethod();
                      };

                      ////////////////////////////
                      // myClass.cpp
                      ////////////////////////////

                      void myClass::StaticMethod()
                      {
                      }

                      ////////////////////////////
                      // someother.cpp
                      ////////////////////////////

                      void somefunc()
                      {
                      myClass::StaticMethod();
                      }

                      Maybe you forgot the part in red above...

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                      • M Mark Salsbery

                        You can call a static method of a class from other cpp files! You need to link the files however. The problem is in your project - the linker isn't finding the file with the function being called. Fix that and it will work. The two files in your example ARE in the same project, right?

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                        steph5
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                        yes all the files are incluceded in the same project. how do I make sure the linker finds the file? The thing is I can call myClass::myFunction() from one of the .cpp files in the project, but I can't call it from another .cpp file in the same project. whats going on? Thanks for your time

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                        • C CPallini

                          Nope. ;)

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                          toxcct
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                          you're saying this as if such construction never exists... but I'm sure it is ! for example, the following is perfectly valid : "If I were you, I wouldn't do that"... ;P

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                            toxcct wrote:

                            not a native english speaker (like you)

                            LOL! I'm pretty sure the rest of the world doesn't call what we Americans speak "English" ;P

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                            john john mackey
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                            touché :laugh:

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                            • T toxcct

                              you're saying this as if such construction never exists... but I'm sure it is ! for example, the following is perfectly valid : "If I were you, I wouldn't do that"... ;P

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                              Hey tox (aka Grammar Nazi)... Shouldn't you be busy working on this?[^] ;P

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                                CPallini wrote:

                                That's true.

                                Huh? I call static methods that aren't in the same source file all the time :)

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                                CPallini
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                                Actually his sentence,

                                steph5 wrote:

                                I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared.

                                and yours

                                Mark Salsbery wrote:

                                Huh? I call static methods that aren't in the same source file all the time

                                are not in conflict: standard (i.e C-like, not belonging to a class) static functions have file scope, while static methods have not such a constraint. :)

                                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                                  Hey tox (aka Grammar Nazi)... Shouldn't you be busy working on this?[^] ;P

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                                  toxcct
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                                  Mark, wait. I didn't say all I write is gramatically correct; I make mistakes sometimes. BUT, isn't the construction I just asked you in this thread valid ?

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                                  • C CPallini

                                    Actually his sentence,

                                    steph5 wrote:

                                    I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared.

                                    and yours

                                    Mark Salsbery wrote:

                                    Huh? I call static methods that aren't in the same source file all the time

                                    are not in conflict: standard (i.e C-like, not belonging to a class) static functions have file scope, while static methods have not such a constraint. :)

                                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                    [My articles]

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                                    toxcct
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                                    CPallini wrote:

                                    while static methods

                                    C++ (actually Bjarne Stroustrup) don't talk about methods (which is more correct to Java/C#), but talks about member variables and member functions.

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                                    • T toxcct

                                      Mark, wait. I didn't say all I write is gramatically correct; I make mistakes sometimes. BUT, isn't the construction I just asked you in this thread valid ?

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                                      Mark Salsbery
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                                      I'm just goofin with you here, of course.

                                      toxcct wrote:

                                      isn't the construction I just asked you in this thread valid ?

                                      Where at? I missed something somewhere :)

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                                      • T toxcct

                                        you're saying this as if such construction never exists... but I'm sure it is ! for example, the following is perfectly valid : "If I were you, I wouldn't do that"... ;P

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                                        CPallini
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                                        And you're right [^]. Anyway it looks like 'wish' is needed in the sentence. Anyway I'm a poor Italian man... :-D

                                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                                        • C CPallini

                                          Actually his sentence,

                                          steph5 wrote:

                                          I was in the understanding that if you declare a static function it can only be called from the source file where it is declared.

                                          and yours

                                          Mark Salsbery wrote:

                                          Huh? I call static methods that aren't in the same source file all the time

                                          are not in conflict: standard (i.e C-like, not belonging to a class) static functions have file scope, while static methods have not such a constraint. :)

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                          [My articles]

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                                          Mark Salsbery
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                                          I stand corrected! :) And I'm not the one that voted you down! Cheers!

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