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  • C Chaos_22

    Most people think that it is: "War Against Terror", but in reality, US is simply cleaning up the mess it created!

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    Stan Shannon
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    You mean the mess we created while saving the world from communist domination and/or a thermo nuclear war? That mess?

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      You mean the mess we created while saving the world from communist domination and/or a thermo nuclear war? That mess?

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      Ilion
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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      You mean the mess we created while saving the world from communist domination and/or a thermo nuclear war? That mess?

      Is there another mess we've created?

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      • C Chaos_22

        Most people think that it is: "War Against Terror", but in reality, US is simply cleaning up the mess it created!

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        Rob Graham
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        The mess we created by flying aircraft into the WTC? Or into the Pentagon? Or into a field in Pennsylvania? Or by blowing up trains in Madrid, or Trains in London, Or Airports in Scotland? Cram it where the sun doesn't shine Euroweenie.

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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          You mean the mess we created while saving the world from communist domination and/or a thermo nuclear war? That mess?

          Is there another mess we've created?

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          Rob Graham
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          Ilíon wrote:

          Is there another mess we've created?

          Yeah, we rescued France from Hitler. Like Pakistan, they turned out to be a faithless Ally.


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            Ilíon wrote:

            Is there another mess we've created?

            Yeah, we rescued France from Hitler. Like Pakistan, they turned out to be a faithless Ally.


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            Ilion
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            Well, sure. But that was just a clean-up detail from the mess we made in 1918 or so.

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              Well, sure. But that was just a clean-up detail from the mess we made in 1918 or so.

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              Rob Graham
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              right.:rolleyes:

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                The mess we created by flying aircraft into the WTC? Or into the Pentagon? Or into a field in Pennsylvania? Or by blowing up trains in Madrid, or Trains in London, Or Airports in Scotland? Cram it where the sun doesn't shine Euroweenie.

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                Chaos_22
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                Go read some books on history first, and then post. The roots of the (messy)things US did are deep, and arise mainly as a solution to its biggest nightmare - USSR/Soviet Union/Russia

                "Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." - Rich C ςђค๏ร

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                • C Chaos_22

                  Go read some books on history first, and then post. The roots of the (messy)things US did are deep, and arise mainly as a solution to its biggest nightmare - USSR/Soviet Union/Russia

                  "Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." - Rich C ςђค๏ร

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                  Chaos_22 wrote:

                  Go read some books on history first, and then post.

                  Rob has proved himself over and over again to be knowledgeable and perceptive in his view of history and current events. It remains to be seen if you will ever prove to be the same.

                  Chaos_22 wrote:

                  The roots of the (messy)things US did are deep, and arise mainly as a solution to its biggest nightmare - USSR/Soviet Union/Russia

                  If you'd made a single statement that could be checked for historical validity I might have spent the time to check it. Instead you posted a silly and unimaginable overreaching statement with no proof.

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                    The mess we created by flying aircraft into the WTC? Or into the Pentagon? Or into a field in Pennsylvania? Or by blowing up trains in Madrid, or Trains in London, Or Airports in Scotland? Cram it where the sun doesn't shine Euroweenie.

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                    Rob Graham wrote:

                    Cram it where the sun doesn't shine

                    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                    • C Chaos_22

                      Most people think that it is: "War Against Terror", but in reality, US is simply cleaning up the mess it created!

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                      Oakman
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                      Here's an apology for the mess. It was written by Lt. General Charles Pitman, USMC - so it's official - you can take it back to your madras. I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans took up arms and sacrificed the blood of our youth, it was in the defense of Muslims (Bosnia, Kosovo, Gulf War 1, Kuwait, etc.). I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were Islamic Arabs. I am sorry that most Arabs and Muslims have to live in squalor under savage dictatorships. I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth. I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the US in their religious schools, mosques, and government-controlled media. I am sorry that Yassar Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian "cause." I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or offer more than a token amount of financial help to those same Palestinians. I am sorry that the U.S.A. has to step in and be the biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arabs while the insanely wealthy Arabs blame the USA for all their problems. I am sorry that our own left wing, our media, and our own brainwashed masses do not understand any of this (from the misleading vocal elements of our society like radical professors, CNN and the NY TIMES). I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the "food for oil" money so they could get rich while the common folk suffered. I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers upon their death. I am sorry that those same bombers are brainwashed thinking they will receive 72 virgins in "paradise." I am sorry that the homicide bombers think pregnant women, babies, children, the elderly and other noncombatant civilians are legitimate targets. I am sorry that our troops die to free more Arabs from the gang rape rooms and the filling of mass graves of dissidents of their own making. I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more Arabs than any other group. I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient "Holy Site." I am sorry they didn't apologize for driving a jet into the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church - one of our Holy Sites. I am sorry they didn't apologize for flight 93 and 175, the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the murders and beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, etc....etc! I am sorry Michael Moore is American; he could feed a medium sized village in Africa. If you want

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                        Chaos_22 wrote:

                        Go read some books on history first, and then post.

                        Rob has proved himself over and over again to be knowledgeable and perceptive in his view of history and current events. It remains to be seen if you will ever prove to be the same.

                        Chaos_22 wrote:

                        The roots of the (messy)things US did are deep, and arise mainly as a solution to its biggest nightmare - USSR/Soviet Union/Russia

                        If you'd made a single statement that could be checked for historical validity I might have spent the time to check it. Instead you posted a silly and unimaginable overreaching statement with no proof.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        Chaos_22
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                        So, Rob has appointed a lawyer...

                        Oakman wrote:

                        It remains to be seen if you will ever prove to be the same.

                        Do you intend to give me a certificate? GTH

                        Oakman wrote:

                        If you'd made a single statement that could be checked for historical validity I might have spent the time to check it. Instead you posted a silly and unimaginable overreaching statement with no proof.

                        I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. Jackass, ever heard of "Cold War"? Its all over the web, I bet your neighbor's 8yr old son knows it. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you. I certify you to be the "Dumbest Person I Know" Congratulations :laugh:

                        "Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." - Rich C

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                        • C Chaos_22

                          So, Rob has appointed a lawyer...

                          Oakman wrote:

                          It remains to be seen if you will ever prove to be the same.

                          Do you intend to give me a certificate? GTH

                          Oakman wrote:

                          If you'd made a single statement that could be checked for historical validity I might have spent the time to check it. Instead you posted a silly and unimaginable overreaching statement with no proof.

                          I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. Jackass, ever heard of "Cold War"? Its all over the web, I bet your neighbor's 8yr old son knows it. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you. I certify you to be the "Dumbest Person I Know" Congratulations :laugh:

                          "Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." - Rich C

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                          Oakman
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                          Chaos_22 wrote:

                          I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know

                          That was really impressive - the first time I read it, back about seven years ago.

                          Chaos_22 wrote:

                          Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful

                          I wasn't attempting to flame you, just put you in your place, n00b. But If I had decided that's what I wanted to do, I would not have attempted to pass off part of one of the web's most famous flames as if I'd written it. Perhaps you thought that by jumping to the 14th paragraph you would have a better chance of getting away with your plagiarism. Instead, you made a total ass of yourself. By the way, rail as you wish. I've done what I set out to do and will not be notified of any more childish attempts to pass off other people's brilliance as your own as replies in this thread - on the other hand, if you ever submit an article here, I'll spend a fair amount of time finding out out who really wrote it. Have a real nice day. :)

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            Chaos_22 wrote:

                            I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know

                            That was really impressive - the first time I read it, back about seven years ago.

                            Chaos_22 wrote:

                            Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful

                            I wasn't attempting to flame you, just put you in your place, n00b. But If I had decided that's what I wanted to do, I would not have attempted to pass off part of one of the web's most famous flames as if I'd written it. Perhaps you thought that by jumping to the 14th paragraph you would have a better chance of getting away with your plagiarism. Instead, you made a total ass of yourself. By the way, rail as you wish. I've done what I set out to do and will not be notified of any more childish attempts to pass off other people's brilliance as your own as replies in this thread - on the other hand, if you ever submit an article here, I'll spend a fair amount of time finding out out who really wrote it. Have a real nice day. :)

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            the first time I read it, back about seven years ago.

                            ROFL :laugh:

                            Oakman wrote:

                            Instead, you made a total ass of yourself.

                            Very few people succeed in making themselves look that dumb in one post.

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                              Chaos_22 wrote:

                              I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know

                              That was really impressive - the first time I read it, back about seven years ago.

                              Chaos_22 wrote:

                              Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful

                              I wasn't attempting to flame you, just put you in your place, n00b. But If I had decided that's what I wanted to do, I would not have attempted to pass off part of one of the web's most famous flames as if I'd written it. Perhaps you thought that by jumping to the 14th paragraph you would have a better chance of getting away with your plagiarism. Instead, you made a total ass of yourself. By the way, rail as you wish. I've done what I set out to do and will not be notified of any more childish attempts to pass off other people's brilliance as your own as replies in this thread - on the other hand, if you ever submit an article here, I'll spend a fair amount of time finding out out who really wrote it. Have a real nice day. :)

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Chaos_22
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                              You are right and quick too.. It seems like your memory isn't fading with your age and you still have hair left on your head. But hey nobody knows who wrote it originally. And as for the US,Pak thing, I am in no way related to the US or Pak, so my original argument was dispassionate and correct. I won't get anything by blaming US, and in fact US has many good +ve (and I don't know any +ves about Pak!) points about it. And my point in simple terms was that: US made useless countries as its "ally" and is now suffering the consequences. Its like joining a mob, at first it may seem good, but it has inevitable consequences eg. MS13

                              "Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." - Rich C ςђค๏ร

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                the first time I read it, back about seven years ago.

                                ROFL :laugh:

                                Oakman wrote:

                                Instead, you made a total ass of yourself.

                                Very few people succeed in making themselves look that dumb in one post.

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                                Chaos_22
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                                Hey.. Just taking the short-cut (and it seems long now! :laugh: )

                                "Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." - Rich C ςђค๏ร

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                                  Hey.. Just taking the short-cut (and it seems long now! :laugh: )

                                  "Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." - Rich C ςђค๏ร

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                                  I certify you to be the "Dumbest person I don't want to know" Congratulations :laugh:

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                                    right.:rolleyes:

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                                    See, it all goes back to the mess we made in 1776. Or 1492.

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