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  • I Ilion

    Tony Woodlief ('Sand in the Gears' blog): Knowing God[^]

    ... Pondering the nature of God is essential, but it should be done with fear and trembling. ... God is love. God is a father, and a son, and a whispering ghost. God struck down nearly all of humanity in a killing flood. God nursed at the breast of a woman who freely chose to be grieved. God wept for the dead. God climbed unto a cross for his children. God is a consuming fire who will come again in power and glory and majesty. Who then can know God by mind alone? Who will stand before him on that day and declare: This is why you have done these things, Lord, for these reasons that I have explained in my books and sermons? Who claims to discern the entire essence of God? Who sees him more than in a mirror darkly? Intellectualize him at your peril.

    If you have the time (make it! ;) ), check out Woodlief's blog in general[^].

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    soap brain
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    Idiot wrote:

    Pondering the nature of God is essential, but it should be done with fear and trembling. ...

    Idiot wrote:

    Intellectualize him at your peril.

    Certainly wouldn't want to approach the issue with a cool, rational mindset, huh.

    Ilíon wrote:

    God is love. God is a father, and a son, and a whispering ghost. God struck down nearly all of humanity in a killing flood. God nursed at the breast of a woman who freely chose to be grieved. God wept for the dead. God climbed unto a cross for his children. God is a consuming fire who will come again in power and glory and majesty.

    No. Rebut that, dickhead.

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    • I Ilion

      Tony Woodlief ('Sand in the Gears' blog): Knowing God[^]

      ... Pondering the nature of God is essential, but it should be done with fear and trembling. ... God is love. God is a father, and a son, and a whispering ghost. God struck down nearly all of humanity in a killing flood. God nursed at the breast of a woman who freely chose to be grieved. God wept for the dead. God climbed unto a cross for his children. God is a consuming fire who will come again in power and glory and majesty. Who then can know God by mind alone? Who will stand before him on that day and declare: This is why you have done these things, Lord, for these reasons that I have explained in my books and sermons? Who claims to discern the entire essence of God? Who sees him more than in a mirror darkly? Intellectualize him at your peril.

      If you have the time (make it! ;) ), check out Woodlief's blog in general[^].

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      John Carson
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      Ilíon wrote:

      Intellectualize him at your peril.

      I feel the same way about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I just worship him through faith.

      John Carson

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      • J John Carson

        Ilíon wrote:

        Intellectualize him at your peril.

        I feel the same way about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I just worship him through faith.

        John Carson

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        Ilion
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        You people are so intentionally and willfully ignorant. It's kind of cute, sometimes.

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        • J John Carson

          Ilíon wrote:

          Intellectualize him at your peril.

          I feel the same way about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I just worship him through faith.

          John Carson

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          Matthew Faithfull
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          Except that he is, by your own lights, an intellectual construct, which makes you a hypocrite in any case ;P

          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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          • J John Carson

            Ilíon wrote:

            Intellectualize him at your peril.

            I feel the same way about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I just worship him through faith.

            John Carson

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            Brady Kelly
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            John Carson wrote:

            I just worship him through faith.

            And eating spaghetti?

            A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty… The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. … We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1, 1954)

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            • J John Carson

              Ilíon wrote:

              Intellectualize him at your peril.

              I feel the same way about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I just worship him through faith.

              John Carson

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              Lost User
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              And a carbonara sauce?

              Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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              • B Brady Kelly

                John Carson wrote:

                I just worship him through faith.

                And eating spaghetti?

                A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty… The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. … We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1, 1954)

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                Rob Graham
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                Brady Kelly wrote:

                eating spaghetti?

                The FSM version of the Eucharist...:-D

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                • J John Carson

                  Ilíon wrote:

                  Intellectualize him at your peril.

                  I feel the same way about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I just worship him through faith.

                  John Carson

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                  A Wong
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                  RAMEN! :laugh:

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                  • S soap brain

                    Idiot wrote:

                    Pondering the nature of God is essential, but it should be done with fear and trembling. ...

                    Idiot wrote:

                    Intellectualize him at your peril.

                    Certainly wouldn't want to approach the issue with a cool, rational mindset, huh.

                    Ilíon wrote:

                    God is love. God is a father, and a son, and a whispering ghost. God struck down nearly all of humanity in a killing flood. God nursed at the breast of a woman who freely chose to be grieved. God wept for the dead. God climbed unto a cross for his children. God is a consuming fire who will come again in power and glory and majesty.

                    No. Rebut that, dickhead.

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                    73Zeppelin
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                    Enjoy your hero[^]. Leave Ilion alone.

                    “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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                    • I Ilion

                      You people are so intentionally and willfully ignorant. It's kind of cute, sometimes.

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                      Le centriste
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                      Ilíon wrote:

                      You people are so intentionally and willfully ignorant.

                      I tend to think the same about religious zealots.

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                      • J John Carson

                        Ilíon wrote:

                        Intellectualize him at your peril.

                        I feel the same way about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I just worship him through faith.

                        John Carson

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                        ToddHileHoffer
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                        :) Awesome. So F*ucking funny I can't take it.

                        I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                        • I Ilion

                          Tony Woodlief ('Sand in the Gears' blog): Knowing God[^]

                          ... Pondering the nature of God is essential, but it should be done with fear and trembling. ... God is love. God is a father, and a son, and a whispering ghost. God struck down nearly all of humanity in a killing flood. God nursed at the breast of a woman who freely chose to be grieved. God wept for the dead. God climbed unto a cross for his children. God is a consuming fire who will come again in power and glory and majesty. Who then can know God by mind alone? Who will stand before him on that day and declare: This is why you have done these things, Lord, for these reasons that I have explained in my books and sermons? Who claims to discern the entire essence of God? Who sees him more than in a mirror darkly? Intellectualize him at your peril.

                          If you have the time (make it! ;) ), check out Woodlief's blog in general[^].

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                          ToddHileHoffer
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                          I believe it was Zach De Larocha who said Fear is your only God!

                          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                          • L Le centriste

                            Ilíon wrote:

                            You people are so intentionally and willfully ignorant.

                            I tend to think the same about religious zealots.

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                            Oakman
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                            Le Centriste wrote:

                            I tend to think the same about religious zealots.

                            You think Ilion and Adnan are cute? :confused:

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Le Centriste wrote:

                              I tend to think the same about religious zealots.

                              You think Ilion and Adnan are cute? :confused:

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Le centriste
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                              Oakman wrote:

                              You think Ilion and Adnan are cute?

                              Are you crazy or what? :~ I did not include the "cute" part in my reply. ;)

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                              • I Ilion

                                You people are so intentionally and willfully ignorant. It's kind of cute, sometimes.

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                                BoneSoft
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                                Good Lord Iliot, you don't even understand the insults you throw around... :sigh: 'Ignorance' is not being aware of information. Intentional misunderstanding is 'stupid'. You can't be intentionally ignorant, as soon as you are aware of information that you intend to ignore you instantly graduate to stupid if you decide to continue ignoring it. I know, I know, the root word of 'ignorance' can throw you, but I will help you out. Here[^] is a resource that will help you clear things up. Now that I've supplied you with this information, it's your choice whether or not you want to graduate to 'stupid' or go for the gold and aim all the way for 'understanding'. The ball is now in your court. I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it. And always remember, there is no spoon. May the force be with you.


                                Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                • L Le centriste

                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  You think Ilion and Adnan are cute?

                                  Are you crazy or what? :~ I did not include the "cute" part in my reply. ;)

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                                  Oakman
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                                  Le Centriste wrote:

                                  Are you crazy or what?

                                  Probably "or what"

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                    Good Lord Iliot, you don't even understand the insults you throw around... :sigh: 'Ignorance' is not being aware of information. Intentional misunderstanding is 'stupid'. You can't be intentionally ignorant, as soon as you are aware of information that you intend to ignore you instantly graduate to stupid if you decide to continue ignoring it. I know, I know, the root word of 'ignorance' can throw you, but I will help you out. Here[^] is a resource that will help you clear things up. Now that I've supplied you with this information, it's your choice whether or not you want to graduate to 'stupid' or go for the gold and aim all the way for 'understanding'. The ball is now in your court. I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it. And always remember, there is no spoon. May the force be with you.


                                    Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                    Oakman
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                                    BoneSoft wrote:

                                    Good Lord Iliot, you don't even understand the insults you throw around

                                    Brilliant. A total waste of effor, of course, but brilliant nonetheless. One of those posts that I wish could be voted a 10.

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                    • 7 73Zeppelin

                                      Enjoy your hero[^]. Leave Ilion alone.

                                      “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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                                      soap brain
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                                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                                      Enjoy your hero[^].

                                      Whoa, that was.... AWESOME! :-D :-D :-D Thanks! :cool::rose:

                                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                                      Leave Ilion alone.

                                      Perhaps I should - I wouldn't want to deflate in any way his ginormous head.

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        BoneSoft wrote:

                                        Good Lord Iliot, you don't even understand the insults you throw around

                                        Brilliant. A total waste of effor, of course, but brilliant nonetheless. One of those posts that I wish could be voted a 10.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        BoneSoft
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                                        :-\ I guess once in a while I have my moments.


                                        Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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