How far the Republican party has descended
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So? After all the grief you assholes have given Bush, and someone is supposed to be outraged about this? Cry me a river... Take your outrage and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
So? After all the grief you assholes have given Bush, and someone is supposed to be outraged about this? Cry me a river... Take your outrage and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Why is it OK for the right, if it's not okay for the left?
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And Gary Trudeau about Palin? You have to be kidding...... The Dems act all worried about decency when they are on the losing end. When some old folks in Florida can't figure out how to vote, its a scandal... When ACORN is being investigated in 14 states, Nancy Pelosi and crew want to provide them federal funding.
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote:
And Gary Trudeau about Palin?
You have got to be kidding! You're defending this?! The R's really are in meltdown. The Republican party is so intellectually barren that they have nothing to offer other that "Waterboard Obama". :rolleyes:
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Surely you're not suggesting that the Democrats are above such BS?
I don't have to suggest anything. There isn't a single Democratic Party website that advocates violence against McCain.
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Doug Goulden wrote:
And Gary Trudeau about Palin?
You have got to be kidding! You're defending this?! The R's really are in meltdown. The Republican party is so intellectually barren that they have nothing to offer other that "Waterboard Obama". :rolleyes:
Defending not even close, just amazed at the indignation that Dems will heap on the Republicans while being just as nasty and intellectually dishonest. I don't think either party has the high ground here.
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
So? After all the grief you assholes have given Bush, and someone is supposed to be outraged about this? Cry me a river... Take your outrage and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Why is it OK for the right, if it's not okay for the left?
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I think you have that just bass ackwards.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Please. We are butting heads with the kings of low. Who gives a shit? Stop grieving over insults to the left, they deserve it. That and a lot more.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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I think you have that just bass ackwards.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I think you have that just bass ackwards.
Since I am asking an even-handed question, it makes no difference. You can, of course, play schoolyard games about "he started it!" if you wish, but I thought you might see the futility of that approach.
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Yep - that was low. Surely you're not suggesting that the Democrats are above such BS?
Congratulations, Mike. You have pissed off the left wing and the right wing with one post. You must be doing something right. :rose:
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Yep - that was low. Surely you're not suggesting that the Democrats are above such BS?
Congratulations, Mike. You have pissed off the left wing and the right wing with one post. You must be doing something right. :rose:
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:laugh: Poor Stan. I'm afraid you will really be foaming at the mouth in November.
oilFactotum wrote:
I'm afraid you will really be foaming at the mouth in November.
Nonsense. A radically leftist government (the kind guys like you would support) suits my purposes far better than would another milquetoast republican administration paying lipservice to conservative principles. It is a perfect time for conservatives to abandon the field to the left, fall back and regroup.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I think you have that just bass ackwards.
Since I am asking an even-handed question, it makes no difference. You can, of course, play schoolyard games about "he started it!" if you wish, but I thought you might see the futility of that approach.
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Oakman wrote:
but I thought you might see the futility of that approach.
I don't think it is futile at all. It is precisely what we should be doing. Fuck the moral high ground.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
but I thought you might see the futility of that approach.
I don't think it is futile at all. It is precisely what we should be doing. Fuck the moral high ground.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I don't think it is futile at all.
Most nine year-olds don't.
Stan Shannon wrote:
f*** the moral high ground.
Behaving like an adult has nothing to do with any kind of high ground - though with your strong pro-Christian stands, it's difficult to see why you are so adamantly in favor of taking the low road - but rather it has to do with make sane choices that increase the chances of survival and growth for you and yours.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I don't think it is futile at all.
Most nine year-olds don't.
Stan Shannon wrote:
f*** the moral high ground.
Behaving like an adult has nothing to do with any kind of high ground - though with your strong pro-Christian stands, it's difficult to see why you are so adamantly in favor of taking the low road - but rather it has to do with make sane choices that increase the chances of survival and growth for you and yours.
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Oakman wrote:
Behaving like an adult has nothing to do with any kind of high ground - though with your strong pro-Christian stands, it's difficult to see why you are so adamantly in favor of taking the low road - but rather it has to do with make sane choices that increase the chances of survival and growth for you and yours.
It matters not one whit how adult you try to act. When you are being drug down and getting the crap beat out of you by hoards of nine year olds, you have no choice but to fight back in kind. Lieing in a bloody heap proud of your maturity while your society is given over to the nine year olds is hardly a solution.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Defending not even close, just amazed at the indignation that Dems will heap on the Republicans while being just as nasty and intellectually dishonest. I don't think either party has the high ground here.
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote:
just amazed at the indignation that Dems will heap on the Republicans
I don't know what you are talking about. Indignant over "Waterboard Obama"? It's no skin off my nose. I'm more than happy to see McCain and the Republicans go down in flames with their self-destructive negative campaign.
Doug Goulden wrote:
while being just as nasty and intellectually dishonest.
You can choose to believe that, of course, but most Americans seem to disagree with you.
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Oakman wrote:
Behaving like an adult has nothing to do with any kind of high ground - though with your strong pro-Christian stands, it's difficult to see why you are so adamantly in favor of taking the low road - but rather it has to do with make sane choices that increase the chances of survival and growth for you and yours.
It matters not one whit how adult you try to act. When you are being drug down and getting the crap beat out of you by hoards of nine year olds, you have no choice but to fight back in kind. Lieing in a bloody heap proud of your maturity while your society is given over to the nine year olds is hardly a solution.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
When you are being drug down and getting the crap beat out of you by hoards of nine year olds
Assuming that all of your opponets are as childish as you are is a great way of being send to your room without supper.
Stan Shannon wrote:
you have no choice but to fight back in kind
The dumbest thing you can do is fight back 'in kind.' Never, ever, let your opponent(s) determine the level of combat. If you decide that you need to fight, then you fight to win, using all necessary force - no more, and no less.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Lieing in a bloody heap proud of your maturity while your society is given over to the nine year olds is hardly a solution.
Exactly the kind of imaginative defense a nine-year old would offer to excuse his behavior. I didn't buy it from my kids, and I'm certainly not going to get swept up in your fantasies, either.
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oilFactotum wrote:
I'm afraid you will really be foaming at the mouth in November.
Nonsense. A radically leftist government (the kind guys like you would support) suits my purposes far better than would another milquetoast republican administration paying lipservice to conservative principles. It is a perfect time for conservatives to abandon the field to the left, fall back and regroup.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
A radically leftist government
You really are going to be disappointed then. If Obama is elected you aren't going to see a radically leftist government. We have most definitely had a radical government for the last 8 years and, with any luck, we'll have a president Obama who will put that to an end.
Stan Shannon wrote:
fall back and regroup.
Amen to that. The R's very much need to re-embrace conservative principles.
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Doug Goulden wrote:
just amazed at the indignation that Dems will heap on the Republicans
I don't know what you are talking about. Indignant over "Waterboard Obama"? It's no skin off my nose. I'm more than happy to see McCain and the Republicans go down in flames with their self-destructive negative campaign.
Doug Goulden wrote:
while being just as nasty and intellectually dishonest.
You can choose to believe that, of course, but most Americans seem to disagree with you.
oilFactotum wrote:
but most Americans seem to disagree with you.
I would bet my bottom dollar that a great majority of Americans would vote "none of the above," if they could. Note that the nation's opinion of Congress, under both Republican and Democratic leadership has been the one thing consistently lower than Bush's approval rating.
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oilFactotum wrote:
but most Americans seem to disagree with you.
I would bet my bottom dollar that a great majority of Americans would vote "none of the above," if they could. Note that the nation's opinion of Congress, under both Republican and Democratic leadership has been the one thing consistently lower than Bush's approval rating.
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Oakman wrote:
I would bet my bottom dollar that a great majority of Americans would vote "none of the above,
Maybe, maybe not. I am curious as to what conclusion(s) you think you could draw from that, if it were true.
Oakman wrote:
Note that the nation's opinion of Congress, under both Republican and Democratic leadership has been the one thing consistently lower than Bush's approval rating.
Not sure how that relates to the public's opinion on the relative nastiness of the two campaigns.
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Oakman wrote:
I would bet my bottom dollar that a great majority of Americans would vote "none of the above,
Maybe, maybe not. I am curious as to what conclusion(s) you think you could draw from that, if it were true.
Oakman wrote:
Note that the nation's opinion of Congress, under both Republican and Democratic leadership has been the one thing consistently lower than Bush's approval rating.
Not sure how that relates to the public's opinion on the relative nastiness of the two campaigns.
oilFactotum wrote:
Not sure how that relates to the public's opinion on the relative nastiness of the two campaigns.
I sit corrected. I leapt to the concept of the relative attractiveness of the two parties, which, I agree, was not your point.
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